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Vietnam warns China against rig activity in disputed waters

we are still alive because we fought in many wars for our survival. you have a long history of supporting our enemies to commit genocide. also, you yourself have a long history to inflict terrible damages on our country and people. you have bloods in your hand.

move along boy, you know too little about your country China.

When Vietnamese thugs killed Chinese in the 2014 race riots, was a single Vietnamese in China hurt at all? Chinese don't believe in the concept of retaliation. We only fight until the threat has ended. We don't have a warrior caste or glorify battle. Since ancient times our armies were made up of citizen-soldiers who were farmers in their spare time and we glorified strategy, not battle itself. This is similar to the Roman Empire and very different from the concept of warrior-nobility that Japan, medieval Europe and Vietnam developed.
 
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:laugh: You are absolutely right. Fighting a war without USA direct involvement is totally suicidal.

Let's be honest with ourselves, is USA really to go to war with China over some other nations' territorial dispute?

IMO NO! In history USA has always acted in self interest nation and what has Vietnam to offer to USA in return for this big favor? LOL Her sovereignty!


Then why the instigation by Vietnamese here. Because they are either linked or a part to the most racist of them many tribes in Vietnam.

It is a well known fact that the Khmer Krom tribes (blood relatives of the murderous Pol Pot regime in Kampuchea and the Negrito natives) within Vietnam has that racialist tendency. They are very covetous of the others esp. the Chinese successes although many of these Chinese Vietnamese are naturalized citizens who have lived there for many many generations.

That was why in China history, the Chinese regards these tribes as barbarians.

The famous Chinese strategist Zhu Ke-Liang was among the first to observe that when he mocked a warring tribal chieftain who thought he was the best fighter in the world then by capturing him and releasing him several times.

For one, they do not think very far ahead e.g. when they hijacked Vietnam planned anti-China SCS protests into an anti-Chinese one, looting, burning anything that has Chinese suggestion e.g. Singaporean, Malaysian, Taiwanese factories. That alarmed the Vietnamese government that lead to their arrest in order to try to atone the angry investors.

Much earlier on, they forcefully pushed folks of Chinese ethnicity into leaky boats to be killed in the open seas after raping the female including old ladies yet ironically today it is the descendants of these Chinese Vietnamese who migrated abroad that are returning today to revive Vietnamese economy. Even the heads of Vietnam today are mostly Chinese descent.

:closed::wave::wave::wave:The Kingdom of Kampa had vanished forever, destroyed by the armies of the King of Annam under the order from the Emperor of the Empire. So the descendants are pursuing a lost cause.
rarely seeing too much garbage in one post. I´m tired to comment. but one thing I can suggest:
you should avoid using too many different fonts because you make people harder to understand you.
 
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Vietnam Objects to Chinese Oil Rig in Disputed Waters
By MIKE IVESJAN. 20, 2016

HANOI, Vietnam — The Vietnamese government has lashed out against the presence of a Chinese oil rig in the disputed waters of the South China Sea, the latest in what Vietnam says are a series of provocative actions by Beijing this month.

While the dispute raised tensions between the Communist neighbors, there were no signs yet of the heated escalation that characterized a similar episode in 2014, when relations between the two countries plummeted and anti-Chinese demonstrations spiraled into deadly riots.

Late on Tuesday, the Vietnamese Foreign Ministry said that Haiyang Shiyou 981, the same rig that was at the center of the 2014 feud, had entered dispute

The rig was still 25 miles from an “assumed median line” between the two countries, the statement said, but it was in “an overlapping area between the two continental shelves” of Vietnam and Hainan Island, China, which “has not yet been delimited.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/21/world/asia/south-china-sea-vietnam-china.html?_r=0
 
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.US Navy Kicks Off Naval Engagement Activities with Vietnam
From Commander Task Force 73 Public Affairs

DA NANG, Vietnam (NNS) -- The U.S. Navy began the sixth annual Naval Engagement Activity (NEA) with the Vietnam People's Navy April 6, as both nations celebrate the 20th anniversary of diplomatic relations in 2015.

This five-day collaboration will focus on non-combatant events and skills exchanges in military medicine, search and rescue, and maritime security.

Subject-matter expert exchanges will focus on maritime domain awareness, shipboard damage control, submarine rescue, legal symposia, band concerts, community service events, and team sports. A brief at-sea phase will allow ships from both navies to practice the Code for Unplanned Encounters at Sea (CUES) and ship handling.

These naval activities underscore the deepening and diverse relationship between the United States and Vietnam.

"By bringing our navies and our people closer together each year, these activities advance our relationship in ways that benefit our nations directly, and by extension, promote a peaceful, prosperous and stable
region," said Rear Adm. Charlie Williams, commander of U.S. 7th Fleet's Task Force 73 (CTF 73).

NEA evolved from annual port visits to Da Nang by U.S. Navy ships, which began more than a decade ago. Guided-missile destroyer USS Curtis Wilbur (DDG 54) was the first U.S. Navy ship to visit Da Nang, July 28, 2004, and most recently USS John S. McCain (DDG 56), also a guided-missile destroyer, visited last April as part of NEA 2014. Each year, NEA becomes more complex, and last year marked the first time ships from both navies conducted exchanges at sea.

Today another guided-missile destroyer, USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) and, for the first time, littoral combat ship USS Fort Worth (LCS 3) are continuing this tradition during NEA 2015. The officer in charge of these ships is Capt. H.B. Le, deputy commander, Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 7. A Vietnamese-American, Le commanded guided-missile destroyer USS Lassen (DDG 82) when it visited Da Nang in November 2009.

"It's great to be back in Vietnam, and we're very much looking forward to working with our Vietnamese Navy counterparts over the next five days," said Le. "There are many highlights of this week's engagement. One of the most significant activities will be the opportunity to conduct CUES exchanges underway, which will help both navies prevent miscommunication at sea and
foster mutual understanding."

In addition to Fitzgerald and Fort Worth, U.S. units participating in NEA Vietnam include personnel from CTF 73, DESRON 7, Undersea Rescue Activity San Diego, Explosive Ordnance Disposal Mobile Unit (EODMU) 5, and the U.S. 7th Fleet Band "Orient Express."

Occurring during the 20th anniversary of the normalization of diplomatic relations between the United States and Vietnam, these activities were
designed to foster mutual understanding, build confidence in the maritime domain and develop relationships between the people and navies of both
nations.

This is the sixth NEA Vietnam since it was established as an annual engagement in 2010. NEA Vietnam was last conducted April 7-11, 2014.

For more news from Commander, Task Force 73, visit www.navy.mil/local/ctf73/.
 
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Apparently, killing foreign people is legal in Vietnam, which shows what kind of law you have.

Chinese PLA invaded in to Vietnam's territory land and sea, and killed Vietnamese brutally in 1974, 1979, 1988.:smokin:
 
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If Chinese wanted to commit genocide to Vietnamese we had 1000 years to do so, why now?

Move along kid you're just talking stupid.
Well said! And we aren't the ones who used chemical warfare on them.
Now look who they support.
Blind dogs.

You cheap cheerleader have no shame, haven't you?
even if we have no chance, it is better to die on battlefield than in gas chamber.
LOL, I doubt. You'd choose neither.
 
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Well said! And we aren't the ones who used chemical warfare on them.
Now look who they support.
Blind dogs.


LOL, I doubt. You'd choose neither.
you are no difference to others who came raping our country and people, killing elders, women and children.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/06/world/asia/06vietnam.html?_r=0

Shadow of Brutal ’79 War Darkens Vietnam’s View of China Relations
By JANE PERLEZJULY 5, 2014

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Ha Thi Hien along a rail line in Lang Son connecting Hanoi and Beijing. Credit Justin Mott for The New York Times

LANG SON, Vietnam — She was 14 when Chinese artillery fire echoed across the hills around her home in northern Vietnam, and hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers swarmed across the border. She remembers sprinting with her parents through the peach trees, her waist-length hair flying, as they fled the invaders. They ran straight into the enemy.

Her mother was shot and killed in front of her; minutes later, her father was wounded. “I was horrified. I didn’t think I would survive. The bullets were flying all around. I could hear them and smell the gunfire,” said Ha Thi Hien, now 49, fluttering her hands so they grazed her head to show how close the bullets came on the first day of the short, brutal war.

The conflict between China and Vietnam in 1979 lasted less than a month. But the fighting was so ferocious that its legacy permeates the current sour relations between the two Communist countries now at odds over hotly contested waters in the South China Sea.

Both sides declared victory then, though neither side prevailed, and both armies suffered horrendous losses.

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The gravestone of Ms. Hien’s mother, who was killed in the 1979 conflict with China. Ms. Hien’s father was wounded. Credit Justin Mott for The New York Times
If a war erupted over territorial rights and the recent positioning of a Chinese oil rig off the coast of Vietnam in the South China Sea, China, with its increasingly modernized navy, would likely win, military experts say. So in a situation some liken to that of Mexico astride the United States, Vietnam must exercise the art of living alongside a powerful nation, a skill it has practiced over several thousand years of intermittent occupation and more than a dozen wars with China.

But with China, far richer, militarily stronger and more ambitious than at any time the two countries have faced each other in the modern era, how far to needle Beijing, when to pull back, and how to factor in the United States are becoming trickier.

During the current tensions, the anti-Chinese sentiments of the Vietnamese people seem to have run ahead of the country’s ruling Politburo.

“People in Vietnam want to be outside China’s grip,” said Pham Xuan Nguyen, chairman of the Hanoi Literature Association, who protested against the oil rig outside the Chinese Embassy in Hanoi. “But the Vietnamese people are wondering what is the strategy of the government, and wondering if the government is really against China or compromising.”

In 2012, the United States secretary of defense, Leon E. Panetta, visited Cam Ranh Bay, the site of a major American base during the Vietnam War, but so far the Vietnamese military, still mindful of that war and years of antagonistic relations after it ended in 1975, has kept its distance.

Part of the aloofness is the result of a United States executive order that prohibits the sale of American weapons to Vietnam, a vestige of the Vietnam War. But Washington is showing increasing interest in lifting the ban, and the expected new United States ambassador to Vietnam, Ted Osius, who is awaiting confirmation from the Senate, said in testimony last month that easing the embargo should be considered.

For the moment, Vietnam buys weapons mainly from Russia, Israel and India. It has taken delivery of two Kilo-class submarines from Russia, and has ordered four more. Japan has pledged to provide coast guard vessels. In a move intended to encourage Vietnam to accept more from Washington, Secretary of State John Kerry announced $18 million in nonlethal aid for Vietnam’s maritime security during a visit in December.

Vietnam does not expect, or want, intervention by the United States, said Dang Dinh Quy, president of the Diplomatic Academy of Vietnam. “We don’t expect help from anyone,” he said. “We are confident we can do it ourselves. We will keep to current strategies of trying to prevent a clash, and if it happens we will try to deal with it. We welcome all users of the South China Sea as long as they are conducive to preserving peace, stability and a legal order in the region.”

The shadow of the 1979 war, ordered by the Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping to punish Vietnam for its invasion of Cambodia, endures in places along the border. The memories are strong not only because of the death toll but also because the Chinese pummeled towns and villages as they withdrew, destroying schools and hospitals, in what the Chinese military later called a “goodbye kiss.”

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Lang Son has since been rebuilt, and modest high-rises emblazoned with neon give it the feel of a prosperous trading post. But people here still remember a river full of bodies, both Vietnamese and Chinese, and how long it took for the terrible smell to go away. The combined death toll has been estimated at least 50,000 troops, along with 10,000 Vietnamese civilians.

The Chinese soldiers were instructed to be merciless and resorted to a “frenzy of extreme emotions,” according to a former Chinese intelligence officer, Xu Meihong, who immigrated to the United States and whose account appears in a history of the war, “Chinese Military Strategy in the Third Indochina War” by Edward C. O’Dowd.

The Chinese decision to destroy Lang Son left a deep impression on a high school student named Luong Van Lang, who now works as a security guard.

“My heart was full of hatred, all the city was destroyed, everything was rubble,” he said. Two years after the Chinese left, he was selected for sniper training in a local defense militia to counter Chinese hit-and-run attacks that continued for most of the 1980s.

“I would get up at 2 a.m., positioned on a high ridge, and I could see the Chinese digging tunnels,” he said. “Their hill was lower than ours, and sometimes they would move higher. We would wait for that moment when they moved and shoot at them.” He killed six Chinese in 10 days, he said proudly.

For his bravery and accuracy, Mr. Lang won three medals that he keeps in a satin-lined box.

After China and Vietnam normalized relations in 1991, the government erased all official commemorations of the 1979 fighting, a contrast to the copious memorials to Vietnam’s wars against the French and the Americans in which the Chinese gave vital assistance.

Relations between the fraternal Communist parties thawed, cross-border business flourished and memories were eclipsed.

Those memories resurfaced two months ago with the arrival of the Chinese oil rig in waters claimed by both countries off Vietnam’s coast. There were daily skirmishes between Chinese and Vietnamese coast guard vessels, which led to anti-Chinese riots in Vietnam that left four Chinese citizens dead and damaged foreign-owned factories.

Ms. Hien, who now runs a guesthouse and welcomes Chinese clients, says she still lives with the memories of her teenage terror. After her mother was killed, soldiers found an older woman to look after her, and then told the two lost souls to shelter with others in a limestone cave.

“But several hundred people had been killed in there,” she said. “I saw a woman with her legs cut off, lying on the ground. You could tell from her eyes she was still alive and wanted help, but there was nothing we could do. I will never forget it.”
 
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rarely seeing too much garbage in one post. I´m tired to comment. but one thing I can suggest:
you should avoid using too many different fonts because you make people harder to understand you.

:laugh: Perhaps It never occurs to you that is also how the rest of us feels about you.
 
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