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Indonesia will always have potential, nothing more.

Usually, for big population countries, people talk a lot about potentials.

Think of India.

Very few countries are actually able to break through the big population-low value added cycle. China could be (or, is) the last and the most extraordinary example of this.

Let's hope Indonesia, too, breaks through this gridlock of being a potential forever. Vietnam is lucky to have VCP.
 
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Usually, for big population countries, people talk a lot about potentials.

Think of India.

Very few countries are actually able to break through the big population-low value added cycle. China could be (or, is) the last and the most extraordinary example of this.

Let's hope Indonesia, too, breaks through this gridlock of being a potential forever. Vietnam is lucky to have VCP.
whether a country becomes prosperous or not depends much on the people and the right policy. VN has the people that are very capable of. all the politics have to do are not to hinder the people from doing business. the actual economic policies of VCP (or CCP) have very much to do with capitalism than socialistic dogma.
 
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whether a country becomes prosperous or not depends much on the people and the right policy. VN has the people that are very capable of. all the politics have to do are not to hinder the people from doing business. the actual economic policies of VCP (or CCP) have very much to do with capitalism than socialistic dogma.

Your guys are very smart, it is threatening us...:hitwall::hitwall:, which I didn't realize.
 
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Indonesia will always have potential, nothing more.
come on I know Chinese and Cambodians hate Vietnam more than anyone can ever imagine. Probably more than the Germans hated the Jews during the genocide regime. according to survey of Global Times you dislike Japan, Vietnam most but love Indonesia. good for you.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/963692.shtml
 
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come on I know Chinese and Cambodians hate Vietnam more than anyone can ever imagine. Probably more than the Germans hated the Jews during the genocide regime. according to survey of Global Times you dislike Japan, Vietnam most but love Indonesia. good for you.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/963692.shtml

Become a part of China, we love all of you. hahahah:smitten::smitten::smitten:
 
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Your guys are very smart, it is threatening us...:hitwall::hitwall:, which I didn't realize.
smart and threatening have nothing in common, least in respect to VN. anyway there are some people out there research on Genetics, IQ, and Convergence of nations. one of them is the geneticist Davide Piffer. the most remarkable thing he found out is about VN, actually a country that is still considered as poor and underdeveloped. He predicts VN will converge to at least Japan’s level in the long run. it is not if but when. unless CN resorts to the last ultimate weapon: nuking VN or stage some sort of armageddon tsunami.


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Vietnam: Phenotypic IQ of 99, versus a genotypic IQ of 106. Certainly a major surprise, considering it is even higher than China. The gap is substantial, but smaller than in India or Africa. This is not surprising, since although Vietnam has the GDP per capita (PPP) of India, it is led by conscientious Communists and is much better off in terms of social development and nutrition (e.g. meat consumption per person is equivalent to that of neighboring, much richer countries). This makes its excellent performance in PISA 2012, which I wrote about in my introductory post on this site, much easier to explain. Consequently, it would also be a strike against Ron Unz’s theory of the East Asian Exception (i.e. that East Asian IQs are very resilient to negative socio-economic and environmental factors). There would still be a substantial gap between Vietnamese genotypic and phenotypic IQ; it’s just that the former are so phenomenally high that the latter can’t help but be very high as well, since Vietnam is at least in terms of social provision no longer a truly Third World country.

China: No gap. Phenotypic IQ (~105) actually higher than genotypic (~104), which is very unusual for a developing country. Here, however, I must stress two things. First of all, with a GDP per capita (PPP) of $12,000, China has already substantially passed the point at which wealth or the absence of it is a significant limiting factor to realizing genotypic IQ potential. Consult this post where I go into this in greater detail in my debate with Ron Unz. Second, I believe that 105 is, at least today, a substantial overstatement of Chinese IQ. My own estimate based on declassified PISA data is 102.5. So that’s already a gap, even if a very small one. But note also that Asian-Americans scored ~107 in PISA 2009, and Asian-Americans in the US include relatively lower IQ Thais, Filipinos, etc. If we set that as the genotypic IQ of the Han people, then there is still very substantial room for further improvement (with the consequence that the Flynn Effect really does apply very much to East Asians too).

Regardless, short of them embarking on some new Maoist adventure, or getting flooded off the world map by runaway global warming, or getting nuked, or some other similarly apocalyptic scenario, China’s and Vietnam’s convergence to at least Japan’s level is all but certain in the long run.

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/genetics-iq-and-convergence/#comments
 
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come on I know Chinese and Cambodians hate Vietnam more than anyone can ever imagine. Probably more than the Germans hated the Jews during the genocide regime. according to survey of Global Times you dislike Japan, Vietnam most but love Indonesia. good for you.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/963692.shtml
Come to China,then you know what people really thinks about Vietnam,instead of just reading some media post or words from forum members.
 
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In many aspects, Vietnam is a more developed country. For example, internet penetration and mobile business. If I were businessman, I would bet on Vietnam in SEA. Of course, Indonesia cannot be ignored, too, simply because its market size and hence "potential."

The money is there, the only problems is on how to getting the stuff distributed into accross 17000 islands spanning in an area larger than Europe evenly. Hence came the real problems of Indonesia, LOGISTIC.

BTW, is not Indonesia lacking in everything, but unlike our neighbors who usually get major spotlight, recently we are in major infrastructure boost but rarely the positive news goes abroad.
 
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The money is there, the only problems is on how to getting the stuff distributed into accross 17000 islands spanning in an area larger than Europe evenly. Hence came the real problems of Indonesia, LOGISTIC.

BTW, is not Indonesia lacking in everything, but unlike our neighbors who usually get major spotlight, recently we are in major infrastructure boost but rarely the positive news goes abroad.
I understand that feeling :coffee:.
 
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The money is there, the only problems is on how to getting the stuff distributed into accross 17000 islands spanning in an area larger than Europe evenly. Hence came the real problems of Indonesia, LOGISTIC.

BTW, is not Indonesia lacking in everything, but unlike our neighbors who usually get major spotlight, recently we are in major infrastructure boost but rarely the positive news goes abroad.
Religion is your problem
 
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