Vietnam ordered stealth destroyers P28 of India

[Carlosa]

You put MF-STAR (EL/M-2248) on a P 28 along with Barak 8 and 8 Brahmos , it is going to be deadly.

I am fairly certain, that is how it will play out.

Yes, and there is plenty of space for the Barak 8 in the spot where they have the 2 RBU-6000s, I see no problem fitting all those weapon systems on the P28.

This news is interesting in light of the fact that the Phillipines are in final talsk with India for a modified version of the P-28 for their next generation frigate requirement.

Yes, they've probably been working of 2 versions of the P-28, one light one for PH and a heavy one for VN.

 

[Yaralava]

Yes, and there is plenty of space for the Barak 8 in the spot where they have the 2 RBU-6000s, I see no problem fitting all those weapon systems on the P28.



Yes, they've probably been working of 2 versions of the P-28, one light one for PH and a heavy one for VN.

I suspect P28 already have provisions for addiction of more weapons. That is the standard IN philosophy.

 

[Carlosa]

I suspect P28 already have provisions for addiction of more weapons. That is the standard IN philosophy.

Oh yes, for sure. It could also be a stretched version of the P28.

I suspect P28 already have provisions for addiction of more weapons. That is the standard IN philosophy.

Such a ship would be a blast, just imagine what a ship like that could do in the export market.

 

[Yaralava]

Oh yes, for sure. It could also be a stretched version of the P28.

Such a ship would be a blast, just imagine what a ship like that could do in the export market.

P 28 is already 3400 tons but is very lightly weaponised. The India version carries Zero Anti Ship missiles and Zero Air defence.

It is probably the most lightly weaponized naval ship for its class and weight. I think the idea is to have a low value, high endurance platform at sea.

But the same platform can be made deadly quite easily if we load it up with 8 Brahmos and probably 16 Barak-8. It already has a top speed of 32 knots.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

You can pack the P28 into a pocket destroyer, but it'll be pretty expensive.

 

[Yaralava]

You can pack the P28 into a pocket destroyer, but it'll be pretty expensive.

It would be cheaper than a Shivalik class. That would make it the cheapest ship of its class in the world.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

It would be cheaper than a Shivalik class. That would make it the cheapest ship of its class in the world.

Still dont know if that's the requirement for Vietnam, or if their budget allows it. I like the idea.

 

[Carlosa]

Still dont know if that's the requirement for Vietnam, or if their budget allows it. I like the idea.

Yeah, we need to get some more reliable confirmation about this, this is a bit too wild and almost too good to be true.

I'm hoping the @PARIKRAMA oracle will have some insights about this.

 

[Yaralava]

Yeah, we need to get some more reliable confirmation about this, this is a bit too wild and almost too good to be true.

I'm hoping the @PARIKRAMA oracle will have some insights about this.

The entire P 28 project costed 293 Million $ per ship. If you add inflation to it, it cost at today's price wold be be around 350 million $ per ship now.

The closest to this is Chinas Type 054A and that would costs around 350-365 Million $.

 

[Abingdonboy]

P 28 is already 3400 tons but is very lightly weaponised. The India version carries Zero Anti Ship missiles and Zero Air defence.

It is probably the most lightly weaponized naval ship for its class and weight. I think the idea is to have a low value, high endurance platform at sea.

But the same platform can be made deadly quite easily if we load it up with 8 Brahmos and probably 16 Barak-8. It already has a top speed of 32 knots.

The logic behind the P-28 is sound for the IN- the want a high endurance ASW corvette to operate in CBGs or standalone. In the future the P-28s will be fitted with light weight PDS (Maitri) but it doesn't need any offensive weaponary as the IN has frigates and destroyers for that.


That said, the P-28 is a platform that can be customised as per user requirements and the options are world class- MF-STAR, BARAK-8, Brahmos etc etc

 

[Yaralava]

The logic behind the P-28 is sound for the IN- the want a high endurance ASW corvette to operate in CBGs or standalone. In the future the P-28s will be fitted with light weight PDS (Maitri) but it doesn't need any offensive weaponary as the IN has frigates and destroyers for that.


That said, the P-28 is a platform that can be customised as per user requirements and the options are world class- MF-STAR, BARAK-8, Brahmos etc etc

Actually with its low signature, noise and high speed, P 28 is a great platform for putting in additional weapons. It will be far more effective as a small Frigate than an Anti sub corvette.

We need to build 20-30 of them and deploy them all over the place. Bring down the cost further by mass production.

Sub are best hunted by other subs and Dedicated air assets like P-8I.

 

[RISING SUN]

The P-28 isn't a destroyer nor does it have the EL/M 2248 MF-STAR, Brahmos, LW-08 or BARAK SAMs. I think there is some confusion between the P-28 and P-15A.

The P-28 is a dedicated ASW corvette.

P28 will get BARAK 8 during next mid refit, it was officially reported a while back. If BARAK 8 is installed, then there is fair chance it will be installed with MF star to increase lethality. BRAMHOS is confirmed but I believe it will be 8 only. I haven't heard of LW series on Kamorta class so far honestly.

 

[kaykay]

Seems like a heavily modified P-28 class!!

 

[RISING SUN]

Well said .
It would basically be part of the Carrie battle group providing anti submarine capabilities so there would less need of aforementioned weapon systems. IN has always been quite specific about its weapon systems.
The question for customization is that the installation of VLS will require extensive modifications in superstructure of the ship and I don't think vietnm will have that much buget for the program.

Kamorta class will not be part of CBG at all though it's primary role will be anti sub warfare.

 

[Yaralava]

This ain't so INDIA had a dedicated program for its figrates Project P 17 A .It will have covered mooring deck and will be using a multi-functional phased array (probably AESA) radar. The P17A will also feature better roll stabilisation and a discreet visual profile. The weapon platform in the P17A ships will be compact and they will be armed with the Barak 8 (missile) surface-to-air missile developed jointly by India and Israel, and the BrahMos supersonic cruise missile. The weapon systems will be flush deck mounted allowing vertical launch of missiles from under the deck

I am aware of P17A. Only the project cost is 1.1 Billion $ per Ship.

Kamorta class will not be part of CBG at all though it's primary role will be anti sub warfare.

All Carrier Group have corvettes in them. You can be sure Indian group will have Kamorta.

Especially since we have a real shortage of Nuclear submarines that can provide escort to the Indian carrier group.