Vietnam-India strategic partnership in spotlight

[ChennaiDude]

I don't know if you understand what the phrase"thousands if not millions"mean.and yes,totally abandoned by Dengxiaoping,you don't seem know much about today's China.

Even you don't know much it seems...I can understand your issues ....information is controlled and fed to you guys.

 

[beijingwalker]

Even you don't know much it seems...I can understand your issues ....information is controlled and fed to you guys.

you Indians always claim that when you have nothing worth saying to say,China has the far leading biggest online populaiton in the world,US is just a very distant second.how about this,tell me one thing that you think you know and we Chinese don't know,can you?

 

[Fanling Monk]

you Indians always claim that when you have nothing worth saying to say,China has the far leading biggest online populaiton in the world,US is just a very distant second.how about this,tell me one thing that you think you know and we Chinese don't know,can you?

About 40 percent of Chinese citizens use the Internet, with the total Internet population reaching 538 million by June, when cell phones became the most frequently used device for going online in China, a recent report showed.

The mobile Internet population, totaling 388 million, outnumbered desktop users for the first time due to the rising popularity of smart phones and innovative mobile applications, according to a report released by China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC) Thursday.

much more>Chinese Internet users hit record high - Globaltimes.cn


This just came out. I wonder how many internet users are in India, 300m?

 

[beijingwalker]

This just came out. I wonder how many internet users are in India, 300m?

India's online population 'tops 100 million'

(AFP) – Nov 8, 2011

NEW DELHI — India's Internet users have topped 100 million, a study said Tuesday, and its online population could overtake the United States' within two years.

 

[Shinigami]

this thread has nothing to do with china. yet most people here are chinese. why?

 

[Battle of Bach Dang River]

About 40 percent of Chinese citizens use the Internet, with the total Internet population reaching 538 million by June, when cell phones became the most frequently used device for going online in China, a recent report showed.

The mobile Internet population, totaling 388 million, outnumbered desktop users for the first time due to the rising popularity of smart phones and innovative mobile applications, according to a report released by China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC) Thursday.

much more>Chinese Internet users hit record high - Globaltimes.cn


This just came out. I wonder how many internet users are in India, 300m?

India No.2 in the world of Internet users.
In Vietnam now has about 35% of Internet users.

We know China has the largest Internet users. But you do not know that there are many problems that you cannot access in China.
For example, read 3 articles below:

Internet block on Bo Xilai searches reinstated
CNA and Staff Reporter 2012-04-12 16:54 (GMT+8)

Search results for Bo Xilai cannot be displayed according to regulations, says a message on Sina Weibo. (Photo/China Times)

Chinese internet users woke up on Wednesday to find that the country's famous firewall had once again blocked all searches related to Bo Xilai.
Internet block on Bo Xilai searches reinstated

China Reins In Bo Xilai Chatter Online

BEIJING—China's social-media services, which had allowed wide discussion of controversial politician Bo Xilai since his ouster last week, are now cracking down on searches for his name, as his downfall seems to have put much of the country on edge and given rise to fevered rumors of political infighting.
China Reins In Bo Xilai Chatter Online - WSJ.com

China bans Tiananmen Square-related web search terms

Chinese authorities have blocked internet access to search terms related to the 23rd anniversary of the 1989 crackdown against protesters at Beijing's Tiananmen Square.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18321548

 

[beijingwalker]

in China sometimes we don't allow **** or stuff may be misleading or cause social disturbance on the internet,but not every website,they just block some of them ,and if you really want to know,which most Chinese do not,you can easily use online proxy or proxy software to access them,it's very simple and a click away,but the fact is most Chinese just don't care.

 

[Fanling Monk]

We know China has the largest Internet users. But you do not know that there are many problems that you cannot access in China.
For example, read two articles below:

Have no worry there is ways to go around them. As I said as soon as a hot news item comes out there are actually hundreds of million people chatting online about the particular news item. No one can stop this phenomenon.

This will urge China into her form of democracy which will be definitely more " for the people and by the people" because, increasingly, our pragmatic government is influenced by these online and offline protests for their decision makings.

 

[Rechoice]

in China sometimes we don't allow **** or stuff may be misleading or cause social disturbance on the internet,but not every website,they just block some of them ,and if you really want to know,which most Chinese do not,you can easily use online proxy or proxy software to access them,it's very simple and a click away,but the fact is most Chinese just don't care.

Chinese internet security should ban you to posting troll in China and here on PDF, because your posts and comments, all idiot things, people looked bad on chinese.

 

[beijingwalker]

Chinese internet security should ban you to posting troll in China and here on PDF, because your posts and comments, all idiot things, people looked bad on chinese.

haha,you should know what way Chinese people look at your Vietnamese,and don't call yourself"people",ha

 

[faithfulguy]

haha,you should know what way Chinese people look at your Vietnamese,and don't call yourself"people",ha

If Chinese don't call Vietcong people, what does Chinese call Vietnamese?

 

[xuxu1457]

India No.2 in the world of Internet users.
In Vietnam now has about 35% of Internet users.

We know China has the largest Internet users. But you do not know that there are many problems that you cannot access in China.
For example, read 3 articles below:

you mean:
BBC:BBC News - China bans Tiananmen Square-related web search terms
China bans Tiananmen Square-related web search terms
By Katia Moskvitch

Technology reporter, BBC News
Chinese authorities have blocked internet access to search terms related to the 23rd anniversary of the 1989 crackdown against protesters at Beijing's Tiananmen Square.
Terms such as "six four", "23", "candle" and "never forget", typed in Chinese search engines, do not return any information about the event.

Discussions of the unrest of 4 June 1989 remain taboo in the country.

But some users managed to upload a few pictures on to Twitter-like Sina Weibo.

In 1989, troops shot dead hundreds of pro-democracy protesters gathered in central Beijing.

The demonstrations have never been publicly marked in China, and the government has never said how many were killed.

But human rights groups' estimates range from several hundred to several thousand killed.

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For most Chinese the words 'Tiananmen square' don't bring to mind the same images and associations as in the West”
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Duncan Clark

BDA China
Analysts say that censoring any online talk related to the event is especially important for Beijing this year, as the government gets ready for a leadership handover.

No candles

"Today's anniversary is one of those 'red line' topics that are always subject to a high degree of scrutiny," Duncan Clark of BDA China told the BBC.

"Typical search results for Chinese search engines of Tiananmen Square return bland descriptions of the square, photos of tourists or the main landmarks, and so on.

"And some are tweeting that the characters for 'today' are today banned."

China's main microblogging platform, Sina Weibo, has deactivated the candle emoticon, commonly adopted on the web to mourn deaths.

After users responded by trying to replace the banned candle emoticon with the Olympic flame symbol, the website deactivated it too.

When trying to search for the unrest, users have been coming across a message explaining that search results could not be displayed "due to relevant laws, regulations and policies".


Human rights groups estimate that thousands might have been killed during the crackdown in 1989 Throughout the years, the government's methods have been very effective in making people avoid any discussions of the crackdown, added Mr Clark.

"For most Chinese the words 'Tiananmen Square' don't bring to mind the same images and associations as in the West, it's more like Trafalgar Square to Brits.

"This speaks to the efficacy of government controls - many born in that year or after have never heard of what happened, even well-educated university graduates."

'Sensitive' terms

The US government has urged China to free all those still in prison after the crackdown.

The US State Department message also called on China to "provide a full public accounting of those killed, detained or missing".

Besides the 1989 unrest at Tiananmen Square, the Chinese authorities censor search terms on the internet that relate to the independence movement in Taiwan, or sensitive postings relating to Tibet, Xinjiang or Communist Party rule.

Although Google search is not banned in China, people using it are routed to the engine's servers based in Hong Kong.

Google in Hong Kong has recently added a new feature indicating to users as they type, in real time, which words are "sensitive".

AND :China Reins In Bo Xilai Chatter Online - WSJ.com
China Reins In Bo Xilai Chatter Online
By JOSH CHIN and BRIAN SPEGELE
BEIJING—China's social-media services, which had allowed wide discussion of controversial politician Bo Xilai since his ouster last week, are now cracking down on searches for his name, as his downfall seems to have put much of the country on edge and given rise to fevered rumors of political infighting.

China's social-media services are now cracking down on searches for politician Bo Xilai as his downfall seems to have put much of the country on edge, John Bussey reports on digits. Photo: Getty Images.
.Previously
Beijing Tightens Grip After Purge
Opinion: China's Coup Jitters
.On Monday night, Internet users were startled by reports—entirely unsubstantiated—on China's wildly popular Twitter-like microblogging sites of gunfire in downtown Beijing. Nerves were further jangled by accounts of a heavier-than-usual police presence along Chang'an Avenue, one of the capital's main thoroughfares.

Among the legion of social-media fanatics, there has been fevered chatter of a political struggle inside the towering walls of the Zhongnanhai leadership compound in downtown Beijing.

One theory, widely explored: A battle is brewing between Zhou Yongkang—the country's domestic security chief who is believed to be a strong supporter of Mr. Bo—and President Hu Jintao, Premier Wen Jiabao and other leaders who analysts say likely supported Mr. Bo's ouster. Mr. Zhou is a member of the party's all-powerful Politburo Standing Committee, and one of the country's nine most powerful political leaders.

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Bo Xilai was removed from his position as Chongqing Party Secretary last week.
.The Communist Party's grip on power depends in large part on maintaining a facade of unity, so the online rumor mill is clearly unsettling China's propaganda officials and their armies of Internet censors. That is particularly true in the run-up to a once-a-decade leadership change scheduled to take place later this year.

Rumors of a power struggle also appeared to unsettle markets: Credit default swaps on China's government debt—which offer a sort of insurance if China is unable to pay back its obligations—briefly rose on Tuesday before falling back to previous levels, according to a trader.

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Close.On Wednesday, Beijing appeared outwardly calm, though rumors continued to spin around overseas Chinese-language news websites, including that of the Epoch Times, a New York-based news organization with ties to the Falun Gong spiritual group, which is banned in China.

Mr. Bo was dumped last week after a scandal involving his former police chief, Wang Lijun, who apparently sought asylum in the U.S. Consulate in nearby Chengdu. Mr. Bo was a populist politician who grabbed national headlines with a high-profile crackdown on organized crime and attempts to revive the singing of Mao-era revolutionary songs.

For several days after his ouster, censors took a hands-off approach to online gossip, letting speculation flow freely. That changed this week as popular microblogging site Sina Weibo reinstated an earlier block on searches for Mr. Bo's name and additionally blocked a wide range of user-invented code words for Mr. Bo, including the term "not thick"—a play on Mr. Bo's surname, which means "thin."

Searches for Mr. Bo's name, "not thick" and other related terms were also blocked on Tencent Weibo, another of China's popular microblogging sites, which often impose their own blocks in anticipation of what the government will deem sensitive.

In the current overheated atmosphere, unexpected news is being parsed for political meaning. For instance, speculation has swirled about the identity of a man killed on Sunday morning when the Ferrari he was driving crashed into a bridge on a Beijing highway and shattered into pieces. Online rumors that the driver was the son of a high-level central-government official picked up steam after censors moved aggressively to quash discussion of the accident.

Police told local media that the circumstances surrounding the crash, in which two female passengers were seriously injured, are still being investigated.

"I don't recall ever seeing anything like this on the Chinese Internet," said Jeremy Goldkorn, founder of Danwei, a website that tracks Chinese media, of the recent proliferation of political gossip. The presence of so much rumor online is one likely explanation for the stepped-up censorship, he said.

"Things are getting a little too out of control, so they've decided to rein it in," Mr. Goldkorn said, adding that it was difficult to say whether the decision to block searches came from government authorities or the websites' own in-house censors.

Searches for "Ferrari," "coup" and Zhou Yongkang's name were also blocked on Sina Weibo this week. To beat the blocks, users have begun referring to Mr. Zhou as "Kang Shifu," using the name of a drink and instant noodle brand in a wordplay on the last character in Mr. Zhou's name. Sina didn't respond to a request to comment.

The removal of Mr. Bo is widely seen as a major blow to the "new left," a loose collection of academics and lower-ranking officials, who advocated a return to Maoist values and a strong role for the state in economic and political development.

That dynamic is also playing out on the Internet. An essay by one well-known academic defending Mr. Bo's record was published Wednesday on the leftist website Utopia, where a prominent section dedicated to Chongqing was left strangely blank.

The article by Cui Zhiyuan, a professor at Tsinghua University in Beijing and one of the New Left's ideological leaders, argued that both the state and private enterprise had advanced in Chongqing under Mr. Bo's leadership there. Mr. Cui has not responded to requests for comment in recent days.

Meanwhile, in a potential signal that central propaganda authorities have yet to issue clear orders on how to handle Mr. Bo's case, restrictions around the former political star on Baidu, China's equivalent to Google, appeared to have loosened.

Searches for Mr. Bo's name on Wednesday produced a list of results noticeably missing a censorship disclaimer that typically accompanies search results related to top Chinese leaders. While the absence of that disclaimer doesn't necessarily mean results aren't being censored, the search engine appeared to have removed at least some of the filters surrounding content about Mr. Bo.

For example, top results in Baidu searches combining the names of several Chinese leaders and the word "corruption" on Wednesday each pointed to articles discussing those leaders' efforts to fight corruption, whereas the top result in a similar search using Mr. Bo's name was a page on a Baidu question-and-answer forum where users were discussing whether or not Mr. Bo and his forme lieutenant Wang Lijun were guilty of corruption.

Back on Sina Weibo, the combination of stepped-up censorship with a lack of information from traditional media, far from putting a stop to rumors, appeared instead to be feeding more speculation.

"Visiting Beijing right now? Here's a list of keywords," one Sina Weibo user wrote Wednesday afternoon, going on to suggest various arcane combinations of Chinese characters, numbers and English letters that would allow others to discuss Mr. Bo, the Ferrari crash and the coup rumors.

"The strangeness on the 19th..." the user continued in reference to the day the coup supposedly took place, "sends a shiver down my spine. It can't be, can it?"


////HERE IS China, Liaoning, only guess article again from tens thousand miles away to guess China
I search "薄熙来Bo XIlai " in Baidu, find 12million Chinese websites, and find 8million Chinese sites about "天安门事件Tian anmen incident" in Baidu。 Before post you should try by yourselfe first

 

[Srinivas]

in China sometimes we don't allow **** or stuff may be misleading or cause social disturbance on the internet,but not every website,they just block some of them ,and if you really want to know,which most Chinese do not,you can easily use online proxy or proxy software to access them,it's very simple and a click away,but the fact is most Chinese just don't care.

You are restricted internet users under CCP. What is the use of numbers when you cannot reap the full advantages of Internet. Chinese always come with numbers and forget the real meaning of development

 

[Srinivas]

Republic of China 1930

China 1770

Qing

in 1911 outer Mongolia independented from China, inner Mongolia still belongs to China as a province, outer Mongolia has 2.2million Mongolian, 4.7million Mongolian live in inner Monglolia.
you should learn more before to say,Genghis Khan lived and died in Inner Mongolia, nerely no Mongolian lived in outer Mongolia at the time of Genghis Khan

Are you nuts Chinese will claim any thing they want

Below is the citation from Wikipedia

"Temujin was born in 1162 or 1155[2] in Delüün Boldog near Burkhan Khaldun mountain and the Onon and Kherlen Rivers in modern-day northern Mongolia, not far from the current capital, Ulaanbaatar"

Donot steal the mongolian History.

 

[EastSea]

haha,you should know what way Chinese people look at your Vietnamese,and don't call yourself"people",ha

See again, Manchu bro, I call you Manchu Kuo people.

If Chinese don't call Vietcong people, what does Chinese call Vietnamese?

I call you Taiwan Kuo people.