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With a help of a friend, Vietnam modernizes medium range S125 surface to air missile system, especially designed to knock down enemy aerial aircraft and objects flying at low attitude. The upgrade happens some time ago but now more missile systems are deployed.


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Vietnam, Indonesia vessels clash in South China Sea
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
JAKARTA, Indonesia — May 23, 2017, 9:11 AM ET

Indonesia says several Vietnamese fishing vessels escaped its waters following a show of force by Vietnam's coast guard in the South China Sea.

Indonesia's Maritime and Fisheries Ministry said Tuesday that Vietnam is holding an Indonesian fisheries officer, who was aboard one of the Vietnamese vessels, and Indonesia has 11 Vietnamese crew members in its custody.

According to Indonesia, the clash Sunday took place north of the Natuna island chain within Indonesia's exclusive economic zone.
The ministry said five Vietnamese-flagged fishing vessels were intercepted by a maritime patrol vessel and were under its control until a Vietnamese coast guard ship rammed the fishing boat with the Indonesian official aboard, sinking it. The ministry said no one was hurt.

It said the Indonesian vessel withdrew after several more Vietnamese coast guard vessels were seen approaching on radar while an Indonesian warship was 30 minutes away.

Vietnam's coast guard declined to comment.

Tensions easily flare in the South China Sea, a major global trading route. China's claim to most of the sea overlaps with the territorial waters of several Southeast Asian nations.

Indonesia has destroyed hundreds of vessels caught fishing illegally in its waters over the past two years, many of them Vietnamese-flagged, as part of a policy of strengthening control over the archipelago nation's vast maritime territory.

Rifky Effendi Hardjianto, secretary-general of the fisheries ministry, told a news conference that ministry officials have met with Vietnam's ambassador and would resolve the incident through normal diplomatic channels. Both sides agreed to avoid a repeat of the clash, he said.
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Pentagon: Evans Casualties Are Not Vietnam War Deaths

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The Pentagon has turned down a petition to list the 74 victims of the USS Frank E. Evans collision on the Vietnam War Memorial wall. The men died at the height of the Vietnam War, but the Department of Defense maintains that they do not qualify for listing because the collision occurred outside of the combat zone.

The Evans was one of the 58 Sumner-class destroyers built during World War II. She was off Vietnam for a total of about 150 days from 1965-1969, and she participated in combat during the Tet Offensive, providing the 101st Airborne Division with naval fire support at Phan Thiet.

In the early hours of June 3, 1969, the Evans was participating in a training exercise with Australian, British and New Zealand naval forces about 230 nm off the coast of Vung Tao. She was sailing in formation with the Australian aircraft carrier HMAS Melbourne and dozens of other vessels, and Melbourne ordered her to take up a following position 1000 yards astern. In a series of bridge resource management errors, Evans' conning officer turned to starboard to put this order into effect, a decision that put his vessel right in front of the Melbourne's bow. Despite last-minute efforts to avoid collision, Melbourne struck her on the port side just behind the wheelhouse and cut her in half. The bow rolled, capsized and sank quickly, taking 73 sailors with it to the bottom. One body was recovered from the water.


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The Evans' commander and conning officer pled guilty to dereliction of duty. The captain of the Melbourne was tried by an Australian military court for failing to take positive action, but he was acquitted with honor. A U.S. Navy investigation found that he had attempted to alert the Evans to the danger of collision multiple times in the minutes leading up to the accident.

In a testament to the survivability of the Sumner-class design, the Evans’ stern section righted itself after the collision and did not sink, saving well over 100 lives. It stayed afloat throughout a tow to Subic Bay, where it was decommissioned and ultimately sunk as a target.

Veterans seek remembrance

A group of Evans survivors and relatives has petitioned the Pentagon to list the 74 casualties on the Vietnam Memorial. They point out that even though the Evans was not in the designated combat zone at the time of the collision, she had been in it shortly before and was due to return to it shortly after. The group points out that dozens of servicemembers who perished far from the war have already been given a place on the wall, and it would be consistent with established practice to add the lost crewmembers of the Evans as well.

In 2015, they secured the support of Senator Charles Schumer, the top-ranking Democrat in the Senate. “It just makes no sense not to put them on the wall,” Sen. Schumer told The Associated Press at the time. “They risked their lives for the country like everybody else.”

However, despite the high-level endorsement, the survivors have not convinced the Department of Defense to change its mind. Earlier this month, the Pentagon turned down the group's petition and offered to list the Evans casualties on a separate plaque, which would be mounted in an as-yet-unbuilt visitors center.

“They’re throwing us a bone,” said Steve Kraus, vice president of the USS Frank E. Evans Association, speaking to the AP. “They’re thinking, ‘OK, maybe this will all go away now.’” But this won’t go away, Kraus said: he plans to keep pressing until the Pentagon recognizes the lost crewmembers of the Evans as Vietnam War casualties.
 
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Donald Trump

Both the White House and Vietnam government confirm the upcoming 3-day visit of Vietnamese PM to Washington from May 29 to 31. Not bad, never before in the modern history a Vietnamese leader was invited to America at such early stage. Even Barack Obama, the Pacific president, invited Vietnam communist chief to the White House, visited Vietnam in person, when his presidency nearly came to the end. Hope to seeing fruitful results and beautiful pictures. With Melania Trump for example :D

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Indonesia, Vietnam to probe reported skirmish in disputed waters
By Reuters May 23, 2017 | 07:49 pm GMT+7
An Indonesian sea patrol intercepted the Vietnamese fishing boats with 55 crew on Sunday after they crossed into Indonesian waters.
Indonesia and Vietnam will launch a joint investigation into a sea incident at the weekend, officials said, after reports that Vietnamese coast guards had tried to forcibly free five fishing boats and their crew detained in waters near the Natuna Islands.

An Indonesian sea patrol intercepted the Vietnamese fishing boats with 55 crew on Sunday after they crossed into Indonesian waters, said Rifky Effendi Hardijanto, secretary general of Indonesia's Fisheries Ministry.

Hardijanto denied reports that an Indonesian officer on board the sunken ship had been taken hostage by the Vietnamese coast guard in a bid to free its fishermen.

He said the officer had been rescued by the Vietnamese coast guard and could leave Vietnam as soon as the Indonesian government arranged transport.

Indonesian Fisheries Minister Susi Pudjiastuti met Vietnam's ambassador in Jakarta on Tuesday to discuss the issue, Hardijanto added.

"The two countries' diplomatic departments have contacted each other and worked together to handle it and make sure similar cases do not happen," said Vietnam's ambassador, Hoang Anh Tuan.

Indonesia had sought Vietnam's assurance it would not enter its territorial waters again, Hardijanto said.

He said the countries would also discuss border issues, since Indonesia defined its border on the basis of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), while Vietnam used the continental shelf.

Indonesia has been holding regular exercises and has stepped up its military presence in and around the Natuna Islands, close to disputed waters in the South China Sea, which Vietnam calls the East Sea.

There have been confrontations between Indonesian and Chinese vessels in waters near the Natuna Islands as regional tension rises over Beijing's assertiveness in the busy waterway.

In March last year, a Chinese coastguard vessel rammed a Chinese fishing vessel to free it following its seizure by Indonesian authorities.
 
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Eh what happens to PDF?
No, I don't mean the Chinese posters and mods have transformed China & Far East to Chinese relevant, irrelevant and most irrelevant news site. I mean the site itself. It looks as if the coders do programming while trinking beer en mass. Terrible.
 
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US made Metal Shark 45, $1 million a piece, 6 recently received, 12 should arrive soon. The Coast guard should mount a machine gun on the backboard when hunting pirates.
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Australia nurses in Vietnam for charity work. Much welcome. 1,000 times better than sending combat troops, supporting the US war effort as seen during the Vietnam war.
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A little of statistics
The Soviet Union delivered North Vietnam with more than 2,000 tanks, 1,700.APCs, 7,000 artillery guns, 5,000 anti aircraft guns, 158 surface to air missile batteries, 700 fighter aircraft, 120 helicopters, 100 warships, to mention huge amounts of ammunition, fuel, food, clothing and everything. Without the USSR, North Vietnam could never have withstood the repeated onslaughts of the US armed forces, the one million men southern republican army and US allies from Thailand to South Korea to Australia. The Soviets delivered the military hardware mostly by sea. That was necessary as land delivery became almost impossible after the breakdown of USSR/China relationship.
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Vietnam voices no objection to the presence of the US destroyer Dewey that was sailing within 12 miles of a chinese island, as the Spokeswomen of Vietnam Foreign Office Lê Thị Thu Hằng at a regular news conference was asked. What happens with Donald Trump love to China?

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Pending on US Congress approval, US president Donald Trump promotes Brigadier General Luong Xuan Viet to Major General. I believe, he will be the rank highest soldier a Vietnamese in the US army has ever received. He is also a member of chief of staff of US Army Central. Now the "bad" news: Brig. Gen. Luong is ordered to South Korea, as deputy commanding general of the US 8th Army. Midst of a hurricane.

Congratulation

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U.S. transfers high endurance cutter to Vietnam coast


Photo By Petty Officer 2nd Class Melissa McKenzie | Lt. Gen. Nguyen Quang Dam, commandant,... read more

HONOLULU , HI, UNITED STATES
05.25.2017




HONOLULU — The U.S. Coast Guard transferred a high endurance cutter to the Vietnam coast guard during a ceremony in Honolulu, Thursday at 10 a.m.

The ship, which will be renamed CSB 8020, is expected to improve the Vietnam coast guard’s maritime domain awareness, increase its capacity to perform maritime law enforcement operations, and conduct search and rescue and other humanitarian response operations.

"This cutter provides a concrete and significant symbol of the U.S-Vietnam Comprehensive Partnership," said U.S. Coast Guard Rear Adm. Michael J. Haycock, assistant commandant for acquisition and chief acquisition officer. "The Coast Guard is honored to see this vessel continue to preserve global peace and prosperity as a part of the Vietnam coast guard."

The CSB 8020 was transferred to the Vietnam coast guard from the U.S. Government through the Excess Defense Articles program. The EDA offers excess military equipment to U.S. partner and allied countries in support of their military and security modernization efforts.

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Pending on US Congress approval, US president Donald Trump promotes Brigadier General Luong Xuan Viet to Major General. I believe, he will be the rank highest soldier a Vietnamese in the US army has ever received. He is also a member of chief of staff of US Army Central. Now the "bad" news: Brig. Gen. Luong is ordered to South Korea, as deputy commanding general of the US 8th Army. Midst of a hurricane.

Congratulation

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Should have more and more VNese to become US generals and US military officers cos VN is the only nation defeating US mighty army till now :cheers:
 
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the new RoK President Moon Jae-in sends a special envoy to Vietnam: Park Won-soon (left). Nice. We should return the favor by offering a nice economic package for Korean companies to expand operations in Vietnam.

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Pivotal Vietnam balances U.S. and China amid Trump uncertainty
Vietnam could hardly have asked for more: a U.S. warship challenging Chinese claims in the East Vietnam Sea, a meeting at the White House and six new coastal patrol boats.

All are signs of a U.S. commitment which Vietnam had feared was waning under President Donald Trump just as the Southeast Asian country has emerged as the most forceful opponent of China's claim to one of the world's most important seaways.

But uncertain over how enduring U.S. support will be and wary of relying on any ally, Vietnam is just as carefully cultivating ties with China.

"Vietnam doesn't want an imbalance of power in the region that could lead to war," said Tran Cong Truc, a former head of the National Boundary Commission who spent decades defending Vietnam's maritime claims.

The meeting with Trump next Wednesday is a coup for Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc, who will be the first Southeast Asian leader to visit the White House under the new administration.

It reflected calls, letters, diplomatic contacts and lower level visits that started long before Trump took office in Washington, where Vietnam retains a lobbyist at $30,000 a month.

Just as important symbolically for Vietnam this week was having a U.S. warship sail close to an artificial island being built by China in the East Vietnam Sea, where Beijing's extensive claims are disputed by Vietnam and four other countries.

Vietnamese officials and foreign envoys familiar with Hanoi's position said it had been lobbying hard for what former enemy the United States calls a "freedom of navigation" mission.

Further underlining U.S. support, the United States delivered six coastal patrol vessels to Vietnam this week.

"Vietnam's future prosperity depends upon a stable and peaceful maritime environment," U.S. Ambassador Ted Osius said.

Lonely voice

Such words help to ease concerns in Vietnam at being a lonely voice in challenging Beijing in the East Vietnam Sea, particularly since Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has grown closer to China.

Military ties between the United States and Vietnam were forged under the Obama administration, but even more important was the strategic Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade pact.

Vietnam was disappointed when Trump ditched that deal and focused trade policy on reducing deficits - Vietnam's $32 billion surplus with the United States was the sixth biggest last year.

Vietnamese nerves were jangled further by Trump's recent coziness with Chinese President Xi Jinping in trying to tackle North Korea's nuclear program.

"The total fixation on North Korea had Vietnam quite worried that the [East Vietnam Sea] would be left wide open," said Carl Thayer, a Vietnam expert at Australia’s University of New South Wales.

In Washington, State Department spokeswoman Katrina Adams said "the U.S.-Vietnam partnership is a critical component of U.S. foreign policy in the Asia-Pacific region".

But a former senior U.S. official said Trump could be expected to complain to Vietnam's prime minister about the size of its trade surplus. Under Trump budget plans, Vietnam could also find U.S. military donations becoming loans instead.

In the face of the uncertainty since Trump took office, Hanoi has been paying as much attention to Beijing as to Washington.

President Tran Dai Quang combined a state visit with his attendance at China's Belt and Road summit. Communist Party chief Nguyen Phu Trong, was in Beijing days before Trump's inauguration.

After both those visits, the countries emphasized their readiness to keep the peace in the East Vietnam Sea, through which some $5 trillion in trade flows each year.

Just as telling, the Vietnamese coast guard sent a vessel on a visit to China for the first time early this month.

"'Simultaneously cooperate and fight' is a very practical policy," said Truc.

"Vietnam never kneels or surrenders before China's open violation of its legitimate rights, but it does not give China any excuse to use its power to create conflict."
 
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U.S. transfers high endurance cutter to Vietnam coast


Photo By Petty Officer 2nd Class Melissa McKenzie | Lt. Gen. Nguyen Quang Dam, commandant,... read more

HONOLULU , HI, UNITED STATES
05.25.2017




HONOLULU — The U.S. Coast Guard transferred a high endurance cutter to the Vietnam coast guard during a ceremony in Honolulu, Thursday at 10 a.m.

The ship, which will be renamed CSB 8020, is expected to improve the Vietnam coast guard’s maritime domain awareness, increase its capacity to perform maritime law enforcement operations, and conduct search and rescue and other humanitarian response operations.

"This cutter provides a concrete and significant symbol of the U.S-Vietnam Comprehensive Partnership," said U.S. Coast Guard Rear Adm. Michael J. Haycock, assistant commandant for acquisition and chief acquisition officer. "The Coast Guard is honored to see this vessel continue to preserve global peace and prosperity as a part of the Vietnam coast guard."

The CSB 8020 was transferred to the Vietnam coast guard from the U.S. Government through the Excess Defense Articles program. The EDA offers excess military equipment to U.S. partner and allied countries in support of their military and security modernization efforts.

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Some information abt the ship selling to VN
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Namesake: Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
Builder: Avondale Shipyards
Commissioned: 10 March 1969
Decommissioned: 18 April 2017
Homeport: Honolulu, Hawaii
Motto:
  • Decus Pacifici
  • Pride of the Pacific
Status: Decommissioned; Acquired by Vietnam
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General characteristics
Class and type: Hamilton-class cutter
Displacement: 3,250 tons
Length: 378 ft (115 m)
Beam: 43 ft (13 m)
Draught: 15 ft (4.6 m)
Propulsion:
Speed: 29 knots (53.7 km/h)
Range: 14,000 mi (22,531 km)
Endurance: 45 days
Complement: 160 (20 officers; 140 enlisted)
Sensors and
processing systems: AN/SPS-40 air-search radar
Armament:
 
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