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a bit of history. a war that nobody wanted. a Vietnam war memorial is opened in the Pentagon. one more to many existing Vietnam war momerials on over America. what began with few hundreds of US troops on the ground, at the end of day the war had seen more than 9,000,000 US soldiers fighting in Vietnam. the war caused not only deaths and destruction to Vietnam, but also inflicted political, economic and military crisis to America. John F. Kenneny was assassinated, also his brother and Martin Luther King, Jr.. Lyndon B. Johnson gave up after a term. Johnson once said "I can't get out, I can't finish it with what I have got. So what the hell do I do?" when his strategy of escalation of war failed. Richard Nixon was forced to resigned after his involvement in the Watergate scandal. Gerald Ford was no illusionist, stopping all supports to South Vietnam, letting the Republic to collapse.

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Jumping to the present

Hun Sen, the Prime Minister of Cambodia on a visit to Vietnam. he is fluent in Vietnamese. No wonder he was trained in Vietnam, learning everything he needs to know to survive in a world of chaos. the late King of Cambodia Norodom Sihanouk once scolded him as one eyed lackey of the Vietnamese. I don´t think it is true, considering the deep rooted hatred of Cambodians on everything Vietnamese. Anyway, on his occassion of the visit, Hun Sen found some nice words:

“Tôi rất cảm ơn Việt Nam và biết ơn Việt Nam. Tôi biết ngày mai 
(22-12) là 72 năm ngày thành lập Quân đội nhân dân Việt Nam. Tôi muốn nói rằng quân đội Việt Nam là một đội quân mạnh, đối với tôi, tôi rất tin tưởng. Tôi chúc quân đội Việt Nam tiếp tục trưởng thành...Đất nước Campuchia không có các anh thì lúc này dân tộc Campuchia không biết đi về đâu”.

for someone who is not familiar with Vietnamese language, Hun Sen has great trust to Vietnamese army (whatever the reason) and he thanks Vietnam for saving Cambodia from the abyss (we know what he means).

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Those old fellas are going to be replaced by men in hoodie. They held on, and defended the country long enough. Retirement is due, soon.
 
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Those old fellas are going to be replaced by men in hoodie. They held on, and defended the country long enough. Retirement is due, soon.
the US soldiers fighting in VN are long in retirement. what remains is a sense of deep bitterness. though in different ways. the US veterans feel bitter because they say all sarifies are in vain, while the former members of Southvietnamese army have a feeling of bitterness because they scold the Americans committed of treason in the darkest hours.

anyway I hope a better economy will support Vietnam military buildup, adding more firepower at sea. The petya frigates despite receiving new sonar system will retire one day.
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from VN army website QĐND, reporting some success that have been achieved this year: FFIS friend-foe identification system MH-VN1, especially designed for Spyder air defense system, air responder MTL-VN2 for Mi-8 helicopter and Su-22M4 fighter jet, 6110-VN2 communications system for Su-30MK2 bomber, two variants of UAV, diverse radars, bombs, missile control systems. Responder is installed on surface warships on trial basis. For someone who is not familiar of FFIS, before a missile is launched, a system identifies whether a object is a friend or foe. A responder installed on plane or ship answers positive to a request, basically saying I am your friend, don't shoot at me.

"Trong thời gian tới, chiến lược phát triển của viện tập trung nghiên cứu, thiết kế, chế tạo các sản phẩm mũi nhọn, thế mạnh, như: Tiếp tục thử nghiệm các loại ra-đa mới (ra-đa mạng pha 3D); phát triển máy bay không người lái phục vụ huấn luyện của quân chủng và các mục đích kinh tế, xã hội khác; nghiên cứu chế tạo nhiên liệu tên lửa rắn; cải tiến bom thông thường thành bom thông minh; thiết kế, chế tạo tổ hợp tên lửa tầm gần sử dụng tên lửa hàng không P-13M..."


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Lắp bom OFAB-100-120 cho máy bay Su-30MK2. Ảnh: Báo QĐND



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Hệ thống radar cảnh giới do Viện PK-KQ tự chế tạo. Ảnh: báo QĐND
 
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Further among the goals the army as per website wants to develop in near future are 3D radar system, unmanned air plane, armor piercing projectiles.

I am missing destroyer :D
 
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Good way to go:
- develop kits for making JDAM.
- self build SAM based on WVR AA missile ( just like SPYDER-SR using Python missile )
- 3D surveillance radar.

They would be mass deployed not like imported ones
 
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Vietnam 4 satellites in space make pictures in not too bad quality. Not only over Vietnam land and sea territory but also other countries. As seen below some images. Only some are available to public, the rest are classified. Too bad otherwise we can see how the Chinese position their warships and missiles in the South China Sea. 4 SATs are more to come, along with a new built ground station in bac ninh, cooperation with ITU. Coming with snail speed but the new generation of satellites will offer a higher resolution than the current system in space. 1m across or less. That means we will see better pictures than ever before, much better than the one made by one spy satellite.


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Google satellites resolution is much better than 1 m.
And Southeast Asia quite cloudy, we wait for the earth observation radar sensing satellite manufactured by Japan technology to take pictures in all weather.

More important, Japan transfer the tech of manufacture the satellites to Vietnam for future building
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Google satellites resolution is much better than 1 m.
And Southeast Asia quite cloudy, we wait for the earth observation radar sensing satellite manufactured by Japan technology to take pictures in all weather.

More important, Japan transfer the tech of manufacture the satellites to Vietnam for future building
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Are you sure google has own satellites? And all you need is a internet browser? Can you post here Chinese military installations in Hainan and in the South China Sea?

We need both optical and radar satellites. Not all nations sky is cloudy all the time unless there are someone out there who burns the forest to the ground.
 
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I wish too we have many nice photos to post showing vietnam military power. Personally I am for more posturings as I believe such things have some positive effects. But you know sometimes even that isn't necessary to do so. An US army general was once asked why the US armed forces never stage any military parade in public places like the Russians and Chinese do, with tanks, planes, missiles and everything else? He responds there is not necessary to do it, because everyone knows of US military power.

This week in the most popular weekly German magazine "der Spiegel" appears an interview with a retired Lt. General of Chinese People's Liberation Army. I don't remember if his name. He was asked why Xi Jinping broke the promise not to weaponize the islands in the South China Sea? He answers China does it in response to increasing US military buildup in the South China Sea, especially in the Philippines. And the buildup in the latter continues despite new tones of the Durtete administration. But he comments that is not the US that poses the biggest threat to China but Vietnam. The Vietnamese, he says, are armed to the teeth. China has to respond. Interesting isn't it? Nobody sees it. There isn't announcement. But Vietnam has a military in place that brings death and destruction to an aggressor. The words of a retired PLA general is remarkable because he can freely say without taking care too much of political correctness.

Cheers!
I believe the real reason for the bold text is that the US armed forces do stage military parades, they just always stage them on the territory of other nations somehow :p::p:

Also, you got any link to the article on dẻ Spiegel? Or it's on paper version?
 
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I believe the real reason for the bold text is that the US armed forces do stage military parades, they just always stage them on the territory of other nations somehow :p::p:

Also, you got any link to the article on dẻ Spiegel? Or it's on paper version?
It's a paper edition of the Spiegel. I will check if I can get it. I read the article by accident.
 
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"Trong thời gian tới, chiến lược phát triển của viện tập trung nghiên cứu, thiết kế, chế tạo các sản phẩm mũi nhọn, thế mạnh, như: Tiếp tục thử nghiệm các loại ra-đa mới (ra-đa mạng pha 3D); phát triển máy bay không người lái phục vụ huấn luyện của quân chủng và các mục đích kinh tế, xã hội khác; nghiên cứu chế tạo nhiên liệu tên lửa rắn; cải tiến bom thông thường thành bom thông minh; thiết kế, chế tạo tổ hợp tên lửa tầm gần sử dụng tên lửa hàng không P-13M..."
Holy mother, Vietnamese indigenous JDAM :o::o:
 
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In Vietnam, the Ghost of Agent Orange Still Looms Large
http://thediplomat.com/2016/12/in-vietnam-the-ghost-of-agent-orange-still-looms-large/

Some nights, the illuminated oval-shaped building hovering over a thick row of trees keeps Trinh Bui Kokkoris, 48, restless. Each time she looks out of the window from her apartment in Brooklyn Heights, the sight of the U.S. District Court reminds Trinh of the lawsuit she and her husband lost more than a decade ago with other Vietnamese victims of Agent Orange.

The year was 2004. Trinh’s husband, Constantine Kokkoris, was an attorney in an unprecedented civil suit that sought compensation from 31 U.S. chemical companies for hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese victims exposed to the Agent Orange defoliant.

The tension was high, the enthusiasm stirring. “We were setting something unprecedented,” said Trinh in a strangled, hoarse voice. Years of studying opera caused her to develop spasmodic dysphonia immediately after giving birth to her only child in 1997.

On Trinh’s 37th birthday, while attending an Agent Orange conference in Paris, her family received the news that the District Court for the Eastern District of New York had dismissed the case, concluding that the herbicide manufacturers were government contractors during the Vietnam War and were, therefore, protected from liability.

Not deterred, the plaintiffs continued to petition all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. But in March 2009, the Supreme Court announced it would not review the case, effectively ending the lawsuit.

“It was devastating,” said Trinh. Later that year, she was diagnosed with uterine cancer. She had been exposed to Agent Orange as a child.

Eight years after the lawsuit was dismissed, Trinh has overcome her battle against cancer. The international community has increased its humanitarian efforts to address the issue of Agent Orange, and the U.S. government, while still denying any legal liability, has begun assisting in healing the painful legacy of war. But Trinh believes not enough has been done and the plight of Vietnamese Agent Orange victims remains her life’s mission. The view of the courthouse from her apartment is a daily reminder of that struggle.

“At least I’m body-abled, I can walk, I can speak,” said Trinh. “We have to be their voices.” In 2013, she co-founded the Vietnam Learning, Arts & Cultural Center, which supports Agent Orange victims in Vietnam.

Between 1961 and 1971, the U.S. Air Force sprayed over 19 million gallons of herbicide combinations across South Vietnam to defoliate thick jungles that provided enemy cover. According to Professor Jeanne Mager Stellman of Columbia University, an expert on health management, as many as 4.8 million people may have been sprayed. Four decades after the war, the dioxin-contaminated areas still pose threat to local communities. The Vietnamese Red Cross further estimates that up to 3 million Vietnamese spanning three generations have medical conditions that have been tied to exposure to Agent Orange, including several types of cancer, heart disease, skin conditions, and birth defects.

One of the reasons Trinh’s husband first became involved with the lawsuit was because he suspected his wife had been exposed to Agent Orange. Trinh was born in 1968 and lived in Saigon until 1975, when she migrated to the United States together with her parents and two sisters.

Since childhood, Trinh has suffered from asthma and a multitude of allergies. “My doctors said, ‘I’ve never seen anybody with these many allergies,’” said Trinh. The rolled up sleeves of her shirt revealed brown patches scarred from severe eczema.

The Vietnam War ended in 1975, yet no large-scale scientific study on the effects of herbicides on human health has been carried out. The U.S. Department of Veteran Affairs (VA) recognizes 14 illnesses as being caused by wartime herbicides, including cancers of the respiratory system, prostate cancer, Hodgkin lymphoma, chloracne, chronic lymphocytic leukemia, ischemic heart disease, Type 2 diabetes, and spina bifida in the children of exposed families. The department has paid billions in disability benefits to U.S. veterans for ailments related to herbicides exposure.

Since 2007, the U.S. Congress had appropriated over $125 million to fund the cleanup of severely dioxin-contaminated areas in Vietnam and provide assistance for people with disabilities that are most likely a result of exposure to Agent Orange. The program has almost finished cleaning up the contamination at the Da Nang airbase and is slated to launch a similar environmental remediation program at the Bien Hoa airbase outside of Ho Chi Minh City.


Trinh Bui Kokkoris during her recent visit to Tu Du Hospital in Ho Chi Minh City

Last month, Trinh traveled to Vietnam with a group of international reporters. While conceding that the environmental remediation programs have generally been progressing well, Trinh says not enough has been done to assist Vietnamese with health defects and their families.

According to Michael F. Martin, specialist in Asian affairs for the Congressional Research Service, Congress appropriated over $82 million for environmental remediation and a little over $27 million for health related activities between 2007 and 2015.

“The money that the U.S. is giving is such a drop in the bucket to the huge need. It’s more symbolic in some ways,” said Susan Hammond, executive director of the War Legacies Project, an NGO that supports Agent Orange victims in Vietnam. Hammond’s organization annually collects $20,000 to $30,000 to support about 40 victims and their families.

According to Hammond, an affected family requires at minimum $1,000 a year to survive, not including medical needs and care. “So ten million doesn’t go very far when you got hundreds of thousand of people who need assistance,” she said.

But according to Tim Rieser, the senior Democratic staff member for the Appropriations Subcommittee on the Department of State and Foreign Operations, the amount of U.S. funding dedicated to assist Agent Orange victims reflects the ability to spend and monitor the use of funds effectively, and the priorities of the Vietnamese government, which prefers spending the U.S. funding on cleanups rather than assistance to affected individuals.

“Their highest priority is the airbases, and destroying dioxin is a very technologically complex, expensive process,” said Rieser about Vietnamese officials.

The United States is slated to appropriate hundreds of millions of dollars over ten years for the Bien Hoa airbase cleanup project.

“The dioxin contamination does need to be cleaned up. These sites pose grave risks to the surrounding population,” said Rieser, who is also U.S. Senator Patrick Leahy’s foreign policy aide. “But Senator Leahy, without whom these programs would not exist, prefers that more of the funds are spent to help people who have been severely disabled,” he added.

But with Donald J. Trump to be sworn in as president in January and a Republican majority in both houses of Congress, Agent Orange activists are skeptical about the prospect of U.S. funding for Agent Orange related issues.

“I don’t think the funding will be there, even for the cleanups,” said Trinh.

However, Rieser said that even if Trump’s administration doesn’t support the funding, Senator Leahy would still fight for money to address the legacy of Agent Orange. “He will do everything he can to make sure that those funds are in the budget and are used to continue this program,” said Rieser. “He believes we have a moral responsibility, and that it is in our national interest.”

For the 2017 fiscal year, Senate Appropriations Committee recommends $20 million for environmental cleanup and $10 million to assist people with disabilities.

Lucy Ha is a graduate student at Columbia Graduate School of Journalism. View more of her work here: https://medium.com/@lucyha93
 
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