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[CCP]

Vietnam Coast Guard

greeting special guests: Chinese coast guard personnel (in black)
a bowl of pho for all

vietnam coast guard and Chinese coast guards(yesterday).
vietnamese was yelling" here is vietnamese water space...." while runing for its life...

 

[Viet]

Politics | Thu Apr 28, 2016 12:53pm EDT
Related: Election 2016, Politics

Pentagon chief would back lifting restrictions on U.S. arms to Vietnam
WASHINGTON | By Phil Stewart

U.S. Secretary of Defense Ash Carter testifies on operations against the Islamic State, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., April 28, 2016.

Reuters/Jonathan Ernst


U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said on Thursday he would support lifting restrictions on the sale of weapons to Vietnam, in the latest sign of thawing ties between former enemies whose focus has shifted in recent years to China's military buildup.

When asked by Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee and a former prisoner of war in Vietnam, if he would support lifting the restrictions, Carter said at a hearing: "We've discussed this in the past and I appreciate your leadership in that regard, chairman, and yes."

Carter did not elaborate, although his comments come ahead of a planned visit to Vietnam by U.S. President Barack Obama late next month.

The United States partially lifted a long-time ban on lethal weapons sales to Vietnam in October 2014, nearly 40 years after the end of the Vietnam War, to help the country patrol and defend itself in the South China Sea in the face of growing naval challenges from China. At the time, U.S. officials said future sales could include airborne systems.

Carter pledged on a visit to Vietnam last year to provide it $18 million to help its coast guard buy U.S. patrol boats.

But the United States has said that fully lifting the embargo will depend on improved human rights conditions in Vietnam.

"There are a number of factors that we must consider with regard to lifting the ban, including progress on human rights," the State Department's top human rights official, Tom Malinowski, said on Tuesday after an annual human rights dialogue with Vietnam on Monday.

(Reporting by Phil Stewart Writing by Lesley Wroughton; Editing by Toni Reinhold and James Dalgleish)

 

[Viet]

Moskow, April 25

Russian Defense Minister, General Sergey Shoigu welcomes General Ngô Xuân Lịch, Vietnam´s new defence minister. Talks on traditional Vietnam-Russia defence dialogue, and attending the 5th Moscow International Security Conference.

 

[Viet]

Mig-17 fleet is retired, and soon does Mig-21 fighter fleet.

 

[Aqsuperman]

vietnamese was yelling" here is vietnamese water space...." while runing for its life...

Wow such high level of logic lol, let see when 2 - 3 of our ships surround 1 of your , wonder some brave Chinese will stand idle and take a pincer ram TO THE FACE :v :v :v Always force other to do things in away that benefit you and if we dont, its "coward", "running for its life" :v Brave as hell when you got several others stand behind you eh ?

Grenadier in training

 

[Viet]

If I count correctly, in the video there were at least 5 Chinese vessels surrounding, chasing one Vietnamese coast guard ship. Great. Chinese bullying and harassment at best. Sure, we should stand still so they can run over us. Making thing as easy as possible for them.

 

[Viet]

the time for Ba Son shipyard at the Saigon river, which produces warships as Molynia is running out. the HCM city authority just gives the goahead for transforming the area into a modern commercial hub. at the cost of $5 billion. the shipyard will be relocated to another place, to the Hiep Phuoc seaport complex, Nha Be district.


founded in 1790.

today. Ba Son Shipyard with colonial era warehouses

in 5 years

 

[Aqsuperman]

Btr 152 upgreade with new engine. Shoyld be a efective plafform for ground target and short range air defense

 

[CCP]

Hey Girl @CCP ... What is so funny and get excited for, girl? It not even a battle, just coast guard boats chasing and yelling at each others like girl fights...Let me tell you something girl @CCP , coast guard is the most girly branch of the military, they are not train to fight but just patrolling the sea... Real battles have blood and dead, and we will find out who is the bravest

Well, Chinese PLAN tried their best to make "brave" vietnamese fight at 1988.

1.First, we cut rope of vietnamese landing boats and they do not fight.
2.Then, we tear down their flag and viets still did not want to fight.
3.Eventually , we have to grab their guns and luckily one of them miss fired.

Result:
70+ viets were killed.

1 PLAN soldier(杨志亮) wounded ( the one who grab loaded vietnamese AK-47, the real brave one!)

杨志亮

He is a high rank officer of PLAN now.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands
Also, you may remember how 4 small minesweepers(500 tons) faced and defeat 4 much larger vietmese warships[3 Frigates(3000 tons) + 1 Corvette].

 

[Viet]

Well, Chinese PLAN tried their best to make "brave" vietnamese fight at 1988.

1.First, we cut rope of vietnamese landing boats and they do not fight.
2.Then, we tear down their flag and viets still did not want to fight.
3.Eventually , we have to grab their guns and luckily one of them miss fired.

Result:
70+ viets were killed.

1 PLAN soldier(杨志亮) wounded ( the one who grab loaded vietnamese AK-47, the real brave one!)

杨志亮

He is a high rank officer of PLAN now.

____________________________________________________________________________

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Paracel_Islands
Also, you may remember how 4 small minesweepers(500 tons) faced and defeat 4 much larger vietmese warships[3 Frigates(3000 tons) + 1 Corvette].

as for clash in the spratlys, defeating Vietnam naval landing group is not really naval battle as the ships weren´t backed by warships. as for paracels, ok, I admit, the navy performance was a total failure.

how about your performance against Japan?

 

[Viet]

French naval ship to visit Vietnam next week


Thanh Nien News
Saturday, April 30, 2016

French amphibious assault helicopter carrier Tonnerre


French naval ship Tonnerre will call at Cam Ranh Port from May 2-6, signalling "the desire to increase cooperation between the armed forces and governments" of France of Vietnam, the French embassy said.

The Mistral-class landing helicopter dock, one of the biggest ships of the French Navy, is hosting 200 cadets of the French navy and foreign navies on board, the embassy said in a press release.

During the port call, the crew will participate in various activities and meetings with Vietnamese authorities in order to promote the tightening of friendly ties and defense between the two countries.

The French Defence Minister is scheduled to visit Vietnam in June, and the French President in the fall, the embassy said.

 

[Viet]

from Russia with love

 

[Viet]

Vietnamese Navy vessel heads for int’l military exercise


By Vu Huong, Thanh Nien News
April 30, 2016

Officers onboard Vietnamese Navy ship codenamed 381. Photo: Vu Huong


A Vietnamese Navy vessel on Thursday left Cam Ranh Port for Brunei and Singapore to join an international military exercise focused on maritime security and counterterrorism.

The ship codenamed 381 will take part in the ASEAN Defense Ministers’ Meeting Plus Maritime Security and Counterterrorism Exercise 2016 from May 2 to 12.

Navies of the 10 countries of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) will participate in the drills, along with those from Australia, China, India, Japan, New Zealand, Russia, South Korea and the US.

Approximately 3,000 personnel, 18 ships, 17 helicopters, two maritime patrol aircraft along with Special Forces from the 18 nations will be deployed during the exercise, The Diplomat reported.

Participating vessels will sail from Brunei and conduct the drills along the way to Singapore, where a concluding counterterrorism scenario will take place, according to the report.

 

[Viet]

"enough is enough"

Facing the possibility of a two front war, China in the north and Cambodia in the south, Vietnam decided to take the initiative. On 25 December 1978, Christmas day, Vietnamese armed forces began a full scale invasion of Cambodia, with the aim to annihilate the Red Khmer army under Pol Pot, before the Chinese could have mobilized resources to help its ally.

Supported by artillery, navy and airforce, with main thrust being carried out by a Vietnamese elite tank army, the tanks drove down the main highway, smashing Cambodian defence lines along the way.

the invasion army arrived the capital of Cambodia Pnom Penh after 2 weeks. a blitzkrieg. the cambodian army surrendered, with the rest fleeing to Thailand.

 

[Aqsuperman]

Well, Chinese PLAN tried their best to make "brave" vietnamese fight at 1988.

1.First, we cut rope of vietnamese landing boats and they do not fight.
2.Then, we tear down their flag and viets still did not want to fight.
3.Eventually , we have to grab their guns and luckily one of them miss fired.

Result:
70+ viets were killed.

1 PLAN soldier(杨志亮) wounded ( the one who grab loaded vietnamese AK-47, the real brave one!)

Lol love the way you say about the Jonhson South Reef Skirmish. Express clearly what you want us to do so you can escalate the encounter. We only have combat enginneer and transport ship at that battle with little heavy and personal weapons. Vietnam, Soviet and many other countries know China tactics to provoke them to fire first so they can claim that they been attacked and start grabbing the lands. "Brave" ? Oh no, provoke somone to fire to you can wage a skirmish is not brave, soldiers that hold their fire until being fired at is the brave ones. Quite funny though, this remind me about some incidents and battles in the first stage of Sino-Japan war, China nowaday praise their troops back then when they are ordered not to response to Japan provoking fire and harrashment so as not to escalate the tension and to have more time preparing for the long war. By the way you are telling your "view" of the battle, Japan back then should be praised right ? "the real brave one" ?

About the result of 1974 battle, those guys while heavily armed is not realy up to date and low on both moral and experience. The fire rate on those ship is slow and so their speed. To say a high tonnage equal high combat effetive is dead wrong. And about the 1988 battle, we all know that China plan is to seize all 3 islands in the vicinity , still you only got 1. With such "success" in the battle why dont you step it up ?

ZSU 23 4 live firing excersise