Vietnam Defence Forum

[JaiMin]

@JaiMin

Yea they translate some good articles, although they mostly translate open access public articles. They should translate more academic ones that are subscription only, some of those are more detailed and interesting. Its unfortunate that many Vietnamese are not interested in those type of forum and discussion topic. They are more interested in discussing nonsense on facebook.

OK I have to go. Nice meeting you.

@Yorozuya

They have academic one though, got origional link and translate ver.

I'm quite like these one "
“Spoiled Guests or Dedicated Patriots? The Chinese in North Vietnam, 1954–1978” by Xiaorong Han
"The development of civil society and dynamics of governance in Vietnam’s one party rule" by Bui Hai Thiem
"You Can Come Home Again: Narratives of Home and Belonging among Second-Generation Việt Kiều in Vietnam" by Priscilla Koh
"Regime Critics: Democratization Advocates in Vietnam, 1990s–2014 by Benedict J. Tria Kerkvliet"
"Why American hate Obama TPP trade deal by Richard Trumka"
"How Will the TPP Impact Vietnam’s “Nonmarket Economy” Designation? By K. William Watson

"In search of a post socialist model of governmentality" by Bui Hai Thiem"

 

[Carlosa]

Through a Thailandball comic i just discover that Chinese intend to sell submarine to thailand :v Navy chooses Chinese-made submarines | Bangkok Post: news

Nothing new, its frozen at this point (after Washington complained).

only frigates no destroyers for russia navy?

I would like to see you assist Vietnam in building of frigates and destroyers. at current state, our surface warships will have hard times if facing chinese warships in open sea. Hit and run, yes, ambush yes, but in direct encounter, the Molynia won´t survice a hit of antiship missile. the Gepard may be able to swallow two. that is too little. the Gepard has air defence capacity, but I´m not too sure if the Palma system can defeat incoming chinese antiship missiles. maybe yes, maybe no. we lack of destroyers serving as command ship, as fleet and aerial defence. I know my comrades here have different opinion, but I stand for my opinion.

we need bigger and more powerful warships than the Gepards.

Right now Russia only makes surface warships up to 4000 tons, nothing bigger at this point, but they are working on the design of a big destroyer (more like a cruiser actually) and a big aircraft carrier as well as replacements for the Mistral ships, but all those are just at the design stage for now.

 

[Viet]

Right now Russia only makes surface warships up to 4000 tons, nothing bigger at this point, but they are working on the design of a big destroyer (more like a cruiser actually) and a big aircraft carrier as well as replacements for the Mistral ships, but all those are just at the design stage for now.

Do I miss something or why the Navy does not ask them for joint development of warships?

 

[Viet]

as everyone can see below the defence minister and General Phung Quang Thanh is alive, return from his cancer treatment in a Paris hospital, back to the army headquarter. Maybe it is time to stop smoking as some rumours say he is a heavy smoker?

http://dalje.com/en-world/vietnam-defence-minister-dies-in-france-after-cancer-treatment/550644

 

[Carlosa]

Do I miss something or why the Navy does not ask them for joint development of warships?

That destroyer that they are working on is a monster man, bigger than a AEGIS destroyer and with a lot more missiles and very expensive. It will take a while until it gets deployed, Vietnam needs something adequate for its circumstances and much sooner. It remains to be seem if they are willing to export it, but in my opinion is way beyond what Vietnam needs and can afford.

 

[Viet]

That destroyer that they are working on is a monster man, bigger than a AEGIS destroyer and with a lot more missiles and very expensive. It will take a while until it gets deployed, Vietnam needs something adequate for its circumstances and much sooner. It remains to be seem if they are willing to export it, but in my opinion is way beyond what Vietnam needs and can afford.

ha ha ha... I don´t mean of such destroyers. out of our reach, of course. I mean affordable 4,000-5,000 tons destroyers.

 

[Carlosa]

ha ha ha... I don´t mean of such destroyers. out of our reach, of course. I mean affordable 4,000-5,000 tons destroyers.

Well, my guess on that is as good as yours. As far as I'm concerned, when it comes to surface ships, I think Vietnam is going in the wrong direction buying ineffective ships that will not make any difference.

The Russians got good 4000 ton frigates with the firepower of a small destroyer, yet, Vietnam buys Gepards and Sigmas. The ship that best fits the bill so far is actually the Molniya, but its a 40 year old design when everybody else is building modern stealth ships. Go figure.

 

[William Hung]

@Yorozuya

They have academic one though, got origional link and translate ver.

I'm quite like these one "
“Spoiled Guests or Dedicated Patriots? The Chinese in North Vietnam, 1954–1978” by Xiaorong Han
"The development of civil society and dynamics of governance in Vietnam’s one party rule" by Bui Hai Thiem
"You Can Come Home Again: Narratives of Home and Belonging among Second-Generation Việt Kiều in Vietnam" by Priscilla Koh
"Regime Critics: Democratization Advocates in Vietnam, 1990s–2014 by Benedict J. Tria Kerkvliet"
"Why American hate Obama TPP trade deal by Richard Trumka"
"How Will the TPP Impact Vietnam’s “Nonmarket Economy” Designation? By K. William Watson

"In search of a post socialist mode of governmentality" by Bui Hai Thiem"

Thanks for this, I will read more of it. There’s many good articles on that blog that I haven’t read.

 

[JaiMin]

Thanks for this, I will read more of it. There’s many good articles on that blog that I haven’t read.

Take your time, those title i post are PDF, not article though, there are many article related to World situation and solution quite nice in that forum. Also the date of event and result

 

[frequency]

Well, my guess on that is as good as yours. As far as I'm concerned, when it comes to surface ships, I think Vietnam is going in the wrong direction buying ineffective ships that will not make any difference.

The Russians got good 4000 ton frigates with the firepower of a small destroyer, yet, Vietnam buys Gepards and Sigmas. The ship that best fits the bill so far is actually the Molniya, but its a 40 year old design when everybody else is building modern stealth ships. Go figure.

According to my knowledge. It is not very difficult for Vietnam to achieve what the American can do. To revolutionize Vietnamese weaponry, technology, etc, Vietnam needs manufacturing capabilities. I'm talking about sophisticated, high accuracy machining, etc. Vietnam already mastered the soft skills for programming. They can apply that skill and experience to create AI and robotics. Vietnam needs to master the sky. Also, master the mechanical properties of materials in nature. As well as understanding nano structure of materials. Understanding electro magnetic fields and High energy lazer. Understanding Quantum physics, and physics in general. Technologies are already available but it does take a person to devote his/her time and dedication into learning and practicing the skill required to achieve what American and Japan has achieved. Ultimately, it is the tools that can make these possibles. Just need the right tool to do the job. I enjoy being an Electro-Mechanical engineer.

 

[William Hung]

According to my knowledge. It is not very difficult for Vietnam to achieve what the American can do. To revolutionize Vietnamese weaponry, technology, etc, Vietnam needs manufacturing capabilities. I'm talking about sophisticated, high accuracy machining, etc. Vietnam already mastered the soft skills for programming. They can apply that skill and experience to create AI and robotics. Vietnam needs to master the sky. Also, master the mechanical properties of materials in nature. As well as understanding nano structure of materials. Understanding electro magnetic fields and High energy lazer. Understanding Quantum physics, and physics in general. Technologies are already available but it does take a person to devote his/her time and dedication into learning and practicing the skill required to achieve what American and Japan has achieved. Ultimately, it is the tools that can make these possibles. Just need the right tool to do the job. I enjoy being an Electro-Mechanical engineer.

What Viet Nam need to do is to encourage and allow private companies to start up the military industry, just like how most advanced country with a strong military industry are doing it.

Even in Cambodia, a farmer has managed to build amored vehicles for them. Vietnam is wasting a lot of talents if we only allow a small number of state owned company to be involved in the military industry. They also become lazy if they don’t have competition.

 

[frequency]

What Viet Nam need to do is to encourage and allow private companies to start up the military industry, just like how most advanced country with a strong military industry are doing it.

Even in Cambodia, a farmer has managed to build amored vehicles for them. Vietnam is wasting a lot of talents if we only allow a small number of state owned company to be involved in the military industry. They also become lazy if they don’t have competition.

Say hello to quantum stealth camouflage.

 

[Viet]

Well, my guess on that is as good as yours. As far as I'm concerned, when it comes to surface ships, I think Vietnam is going in the wrong direction buying ineffective ships that will not make any difference.

The Russians got good 4000 ton frigates with the firepower of a small destroyer, yet, Vietnam buys Gepards and Sigmas. The ship that best fits the bill so far is actually the Molniya, but its a 40 year old design when everybody else is building modern stealth ships. Go figure.

what do you think of this: we adopt the strategy of germany how its navy fought during the world war 1 and 2 dealing with a far superior british naval fleet. the germans knew, that they had little chance of winning in direct encounter at open sea. not only, the british had more warships than the germans and the french combined, but a long naval tradition. heroic fights.

germany decided to build a masive submarine fleet, and a fleet of armored destroyers such as the panzerschiff graf spee. the warship was small, fast, heavy armed and most importantly thick steel armored, that made the ship withstand and swallow enemy fire. what we need is building armored destroyers that can attack chinese escort fleet. a multi role armored destroyer, packed with land attack missiles and other gadgets, serving as command ship, providing airdefence for the Molynia and Gepard´s.

panzerschiff graf spee

 

[Thao Nguyen]

What Viet Nam need to do is to encourage and allow private companies to start up the military industry, just like how most advanced country with a strong military industry are doing it.

Even in Cambodia, a farmer has managed to build amored vehicles for them. Vietnam is wasting a lot of talents if we only allow a small number of state owned company to be involved in the military industry. They also become lazy if they don’t have competition.

a farmer ????????
LOL
you just lost because the journalist's propaganda
he's not a farmer, he is chief engineer, vice director of a company about mechanic
Trần Quốc Hải – Wikipedia tiếng Việt

 

[JaiMin]

Hey guy i heard we going to buy Radar TRML-3D by Airbus Defense and Space developed, is that true, can anyone confirm