Vietnam Defence Forum

[William Hung]

I think your Viet / chinese friendship thread was closed (and deleted on top of everything) because of the posting from @gambit which made the chinese members look really bad.
That says a lot about how this forum is run.

By the way, how come I had never ever seen a post from @gambit in the Viet thread?
I understand that gambit comes from one particular political direction, but the thread has people from all directions. I think @gambit could make a very nice contribution here.

Any input on that from the people that have been here longer than me and probably know better what's going on?

But gambit didn't say anything wrong or offensive in that thread. There were even 1 or 2 Chinese members that were contributing sincerely. About 6-7 other Chinese members started trolling and behaving bad but I thought that was normal just like any other threads in this section. I didn't even report them so I don't know why the whole thread was deleted. Strange.

Also I don't think @gambit has Vietnamese citizenship and couldn't cared less about Russian weapons, maybe that's why he doesn't post here. I don't know. But he is expert in western weapons so it would be nice if he gives his inputs here since VN is buying more western.

P.S. After I graduate, I hope I can find a job in Danang... easy access to clean beach everyday.

 

[Carlosa]

But gambit didn't say anything wrong or offensive in that thread. There were even 1 or 2 Chinese members that were contributing sincerely. About 6-7 other Chinese members started trolling and behaving bad but I thought that was normal just like any other threads in this section. I didn't even report them so I don't know why the whole thread was deleted. Strange.

Also I don't think @gambit has Vietnamese citizenship and couldn't cared less about Russian weapons, maybe that's why he doesn't post here. I don't know. But he is expert in western weapons so it would be nice if he gives his inputs here since VN is buying more western.

What gambit said was totally correct, definitely not his fault.

Gambit has US citizenship, but anyway, he is also a Vietnamese. This thread is about the defense of Vietnam regardless of the political color of the country. These are also his people.

I think it would be very nice if he comes here sometimes.

Maybe not. But tourism.
Tell me, how to start a plan to move house to Da Nang?

These are not tourists man. I'm talking at least 20 Korean naval officers in their uniform, all in just one place. It has to be something going on.

First you need to come to Danang to explore man, you need to check things here, in what area you would to live, etc, etc. That's the first step. I'll help you.

 

[Aqsuperman]

oh right surely they are just like me , if you mean they cant worry about their own problem first but still run outside burning all foreign flag , warehouse , company in sight under the pretext of "protecting the Country" that what you get for not make sure your own blood brother and sister not get all the info first ? and is that sound pretty familiar to somebody idea "Talk to the Chinese first , leave the burning looting here for us , if you intend to lecture us , you a coward " ? trust me when i said you just like them from head to toes And while i know that your brain cant even work properly but "only talk tough to Vietnamese people and only dare lecturing to Vietnamese people and only dare lecturing to Vietnamese people but you're too scared to talk with the Chinese people." ? oh my god that just simply epic :v Surely im not part of VPA (so are you) but atleast i do try to make sure our younger generation know all the info first , not misleading piecemeal info that can turn the entire leaders and owners of future VN into "keyboard heroes" ...........and tell you the truth im failing on that

Let just even look about the fallen pilot cremated corpse above , all I said is the full info about it and then "certain guy" jump in and require me to go other place and lecture other if i dont then im a coward............meh i even 3 millions dongs paycheck per month (that is if i even have one) wont be enough for any guy to handle this lvl crap

 

[Viet]

Is there a Korean ship visiting Danang?

Today I went to a shopping center here and there were 20 or 30 Korean naval officers busily shopping around.

not in the news. but the japanese coast guard vessel Yashima with 130 crew members will visit da nang from May 10 to 14th. all as part of increased cooperation between the coast guards.

and as for koreans, HEY hey hey why don´t you stage a kimchi beach party with them?
don´t forget to post photos here.

 

[BoQ77]

Deputy Defence Minister welcomes US guests
PANO - Wednesday, May 06, 2015, 21:0 (GMT+7)
PANO – Senior Lieutenant General Nguyen Chi Vinh, Deputy Minister of National Defence, received a delegation of the Foreign Affairs Committee of the US House of Representatives, led by Chairman of its Subcommittee on Asia and the Pacific Matt Salmon, in Hanoi on May 5th.

Senior Lieutenant General Nguyen Chi Vinh and Mr. Matt Salmon

At the reception, the Vietnamese host highly valued results of the Vietnam-US defence cooperation over the past time, especially in surmounting consequences left by the war, adding that Vietnam hopes to get more assistance in this field from the US in particular and the international community in general.

General Vinh also suggested that the US House Foreign Affairs Committee further contribute to strengthening the bilateral relationship, including defence cooperation.

 

[William Hung]

oh right surely they are just like me , if you mean they cant worry about their own problem first but still run outside burning all foreign flag , warehouse , company in sight under the pretext of "protecting the Country" that what you get for not make sure your own blood brother and sister not get all the info first ? and is that sound pretty familiar to somebody idea "Talk to the Chinese first , leave the burning looting here for us , if you intend to lecture us , you a coward " ? trust me when i said you just like them from head to toes And while i know that your brain cant even work properly but "only talk tough to Vietnamese people and only dare lecturing to Vietnamese people and only dare lecturing to Vietnamese people but you're too scared to talk with the Chinese people." ? oh my god that just simply epic :v Surely im not part of VPA (so are you) but atleast i do try to make sure our younger generation know all the info first , not misleading piecemeal info that can turn the entire leaders and owners of future VN into "keyboard heroes" ...........and tell you the truth im failing on that

Let just even look about the fallen pilot cremated corpse above , all I said is the full info about it and then "certain guy" jump in and require me to go other place and lecture other if i dont then im a coward............meh i even 3 millions dongs paycheck per month (that is if i even have one) wont be enough for any guy to handle this lvl crap

So you are saying that you've come here to PDF to "inform us all the info" and teach us the truth? Not just that, but you're here to teach the younger generation?

First of all, you don't know any of us old PDF members here and you've just joined recently. Yet you start to brag that your are here to educate us? Most of us might even be older than you yet you still open your big mouth about teaching us?

You once said you're still a university student so a lot of the members here are probably older than you. Dont you think it's silly to have that arrogant attitude that you're here to teach the other Vietnamese members?

Secondly, I'm most likely older than you as well. I'm currently studying for a post-graduate degree. The way you talk sounds like you are just a first year University student fresh from high school. And I wonder what you are studying since you are so confident in insulting me as not being able to use my brain? I guess you are studying in Business Marketing that's why you like to brag about yourself, am I right?

So lastly, don't assume that we members here don't know anything and that we are like those Binh Duong rioters. Some members here might have some fun on this forum but it doesnt mean that we don't know anything. All of us could be older than you with more knowledge about Vietnamese politics and the outside world so stop acting like you are our teacher when you are probably only a first year University student studying for some degree like business marketing.

 

[BoQ77]

What gambit said was totally correct, definitely not his fault.

Gambit has US citizenship, but anyway, he is also a Vietnamese. This thread is about the defense of Vietnam regardless of the political color of the country. These are also his people.

I think it would be very nice if he comes here sometimes.

Gambit once answered me "Đẻ ở Sài Gòn" means he was born in Sai Gon.
He's brainy middle age man, maybe around 50.

Southerner who fled aboard always hate communism, and hate China communism much more than Vietnam communism.

Love his knowledgeable posts.

These are not tourists man. I'm talking at least 20 Korean naval officers in their uniform, all in just one place. It has to be something going on.

First you need to come to Danang to explore man, you need to check things here, in what area you would to live, etc, etc. That's the first step. I'll help you.

RoK always support Vietnam in secret. No one know exactly when they provided Vietnam 03 ships for Coast Guard but they were there to confront China oil rig escort last year.

 

[Soryu]

good hope that you got a heart attack and VN will have a better future , If even Vietnamese wont use the brain on its own country affair what good is that to correct other ? you want to run around lecturing the neighbor about safety when your kids burn down the house ? is that what you expect ? Oh dear lord annd i keep wonder why back then there was simply too many terrible crap happpen in Binh Duong in such a short time , now I see such a live example

Mate, Niceguy is funny-all-times guy, I don't agree with his comment, but he was not kind of stupid.
I don't understand why you bring up Binh Duong riot !?

Those Binh Duong rioters and protesters only talk tough inside the country but they are scared of foreigners and will never dare to go out fight in the SCS. It's just like you, only talk tough to Vietnamese people and only dare lecturing to Vietnamese people but you're too scared to talk with the Chinese people.

Lucky the VPA only accept brave soldiers while they let the big mouth coward do the low level tasks.

Serious, Did you think BinhDuong and HCM city riots were because anti-China actions !?

Maybe at begin with small group for some promotion purposes, but after that, it's uncontrol crowd of worker, gangster, unemployed young buffalo, poor worker ... they want to be lazy when they had chance, and get free stuff or rob it, if they had chance, so that's what happened, nothing relate to patriotism or anti-China.

 

[Aqsuperman]

As i said.........simply faling i never said im here to educate anyone , im just here to supply (spell is s-u-p-p-l-y if your brain have trouble reading , tough to grow i presume ) not teach not lecture not even have any word about above-under relationship here stop putting words into my mourth , people can read my comment , man up and stop acting like a loser ) All i do is make sure other have full infomation not piecemeal misleading info like that cremated pilot corpse above ( is that that hard for you to accept ? make sure = lecture , teach ? ) , but you always seem the problem kid yoru no matter how old are you , you cant simply take in infomation , all you can do is keep blah blah blah about old about membership about i cant post info right here because "that is bragging" about how bragging i am so what the hell i am bragging ? simply speak out the truth and im called "bragging" ? arrogant ? i post the info and that it , you jump right in and ask me to go lecture other non-Vietnam then what the hell is that call ? polite ? or simply a distinctive trait of buffalo kid or keyboard heroes ? judge ? i never judge anyone before any "keyboard heroes" judge me first , look around you ? im new here i know it and i join this forum just to discuss military but remember how many time you talking crap to me when i dont even want to talk to you , you have a problem about attention point ? you will need treatmeant fast because you cant even become a security guard with that crappy attitude . And finally oh plz now you bring up my professional and age ? what the hell does it relate to this subject ? you are that desperate to prove that you are better than me at something ? No Mr.Sore Loser im a Junior Accountant in training for the final exam , pass it and i got a job right away , happy ? so how old are you ? 30 ? 60 ? 90 ?

And Soryu that heart attack comment is for the Yoru comment that he already deleted , im not talking about Niceguy so sorry in advance Niceguy if you feel offended :3 the truth im surely not the best human in the word but i do know what the different between a normal guy and a loser always looking for a fight , i contribute to people here what i know ( and again : not lecture not teach not bragging ) and I NEVER INSULT ANYONE FIRST , ask any around here , Mr Sore Loser already delete his comment but surely there are people here do know what type of tongue he say to me first , I respect everyone here but about yoru I cant simply see nothing at him that even worth noticing than a loser that cant see anything but himself , any say anything that didnt fit him and you will see "GO TALK TO THE CHINESE , YOU A COWARD , ALWAYS LECTURING VIETNAMESE" meh surely

Yes I know that their anti-China protest is mostly a pretense to rob things.

So it is stupid and arrogant for @Aqsuperman to compare me (or the other old members) to the Binh Duong rioters and that he has come here to teach us. When in real life, I'm probably old enough and qualified enough to be teaching him lol.

And here everyone will see what type of loser yoru is , first i ONLY COMPARE HIM TO DINH DUONG PROTESTER , not anybody else , stop adding words to my sentence , if you put a dress on then you can . Reason ? as like those looter and protester he always require other to worry about China first but about the domestic new and situaition ? "No dont lecture or teach me , you a coward if you cant solve the chinese first , for now let me run around burning Korean , Taiwan store " the point is all he care about is the "outside" , if any dare to say about the "inside" he will go around screaming

And stop ATSM you cant even put a foot into my university nonetheless teach me , you sound dumber and dumber after each time you know that ?

 

[Carlosa]

Gambit once answered me "Đẻ ở Sài Gòn" means he was born in Sai Gon.
He's brainy middle age man, maybe around 50.

Southerner who fled aboard always hate communism, and hate China communism much more than Vietnam communism.

Love his knowledgeable posts.


RoK always support Vietnam in secret. No one know exactly when they provided Vietnam 03 ships for Coast Guard but they were there to confront China oil rig escort last year.

His age is no problem man, it simply means more life experience and knowledge.
Yes, I know he hates communism and I did read once his story about how he had to leave Vietnam and what happened to his family, so I understand his views.

That being said, have to let go of the past, can't live on the past for ever. There are many people like him, Viets and Americans, that have those issues. Actually, many American veterans are living in Danang now (and there are many that come often) and they always say the same thing, they are surprised of how friendly and forgiving Vietnamese people are to them (including those that fought against them) and the fact that most Viets got over the war and let go of it. These people are here working out issues including some pretty dark ones sometimes.

Letting go does not mean to forget (but it does include forgiving), but its something that needs to be done eventually. Its not healthy to live in the past and to carry those types of emotions.
Somehow, it seems to be more difficult for those in the US (both Viets and Americans) to let go of the past. I hope it eventually works out for @gambit .

 

[Soryu]

As i said.........simply faling i never said im here to educate anyone , im just here to supply (spell is s-u-p-p-l-y if your brain have trouble reading , tough to grow i presume ) not teach not lecture not even have any word about above-under relationship here stop putting words into my mourth , people can read my comment , man up and stop acting like a loser ) All i do is make sure other have full infomation not piecemeal misleading info like that cremated pilot corpse above ( is that that hard for you to accept ? make sure = lecture , teach ? ) , but you always seem the problem kid yoru no matter how old are you , you cant simply take in infomation , all you can do is keep blah blah blah about old about membership about i cant post info right here because "that is bragging" about how bragging i am so what the hell i am bragging ? simply speak out the truth and im called "bragging" ? arrogant ? i post the info and that it , you jump right in and ask me to go lecture other non-Vietnam then what the hell is that call ? polite ? or simply a distinctive trait of buffalo kid or keyboard heroes ? judge ? i never judge anyone before any "keyboard heroes" judge me first , look around you ? im new here i know it and i join this forum just to discuss military but remember how many time you talking crap to me when i dont even want to talk to you , you have a problem about attention point ? you will need treatmeant fast because you cant even become a security guard with that crappy attitude . And finally oh plz now you bring up my professional and age ? what the hell does it relate to this subject ? you are that desperate to prove that you are better than me at something ? No Mr.Sore Loser im a Junior Accountant in training for the final exam , pass it and i got a job right away , happy ? so how old are you ? 30 ? 60 ? 90 ?

And Soryu that heart attack comment is for the Yoru comment that he already deleted , im not talking about Niceguy so sorry in advance Niceguy if you feel offended :3 the truth im surely not the best human in the word but i do know what the different between a normal guy and a loser always looking for a fight , i contribute to people here what i know ( and again : not lecture not teach not bragging ) and I NEVER INSULT ANYONE FIRST , ask any around here , Mr Sore Loser already delete his comment but surely there are people here do know what type of tongue he say to me first , I respect everyone here but about yoru I cant simply see nothing at him that even worth noticing than a loser that cant see anything but himself , any say anything that didnt fit him and you will see "GO TALK TO THE CHINESE , YOU A COWARD , ALWAYS LECTURING VIETNAMESE" meh surely



And here everyone will see what type of loser yoru is , first i ONLY COMPARE HIM TO DINH DUONG PROTESTER , not anybody else , stop adding words to my sentence , if you put a dress on then you can . Reason ? as like those looter and protester he always require other to worry about China first but about the domestic new and situaition ? "No dont lecture or teach me , you a coward if you cant solve the chinese first , for now let me run around burning Korean , Taiwan store " the point is all he care about is the "outside" , if any dare to say about the "inside" he will go around screaming

And stop ATSM you cant even put a foot into my university nonetheless teach me , you sound dumber and dumber after each time you know that ?

Ok, I understand now.

Though I don't know what did Yoro said to made you must respond with strong and harsh words like this, but I rather agreed with you about this post (but I don't think Tuoitre news or some other news do it in purpose to create strong voice from readers, mostly because some radical and foreign-lover hot head).

Đưa di cốt thiếu tá Nguyễn Anh Tú về quê nhà - Chính trị - Xã hội - Tuổi Trẻ Online
REDS.VN - Sự thật sau chuyện 'tro cốt liệt sĩ trong túi xách'

Trần Hoài Thanh 09:55 07/05/2015
Ngày 3-5 đã tổ chức truy điệu cho Thiếu tá Nguyễn Anh Tú tại Tp.HCM. Đây chỉ là di cốt được gia đình đưa về quê nhà, hoàn toàn là dân sự.
Liên quan đến quy định của Hàng không: nếu tro cốt đưa vào tiểu đi đường hàng không thì phải đóng thùng kẽm, có GCN kiểm dịch đi dưới dạng hàng gửi cargo, không được đi theo dạng hành lý xách tay hoặc hành lý ký gửi thông thường. Gia đình lựa chọn cho vào túi để xách tay là hợp lý, có điên mới gửi cargo.
BCH Quân sự quận Ngô Quyền tổ chức đón di cốt liệt sĩ Tú từ chân thang tàu bay (không được tự tiện chui vào trong tàu đón ra đâu nhá!) chỉ khi đón được gia đình ở tàu bay xuống chân cầu thang mới biết di cốt để trong túi thì bất ngờ trở tay không kịp. Gia đình cũng đâu có kinh nghiệm để thông báo cho bên đón rằng chúng tôi nhét trong túi xách hay mang sẵn cờ để phủ lên đâu.
Xe đỗ cách đấy 10 bước chân, cờ đã chuẩn bị sẵn trong xe rồi nên đưa túi vào xe rồi mới phủ cờ là phù hợp. Việc đón này không nằm trong nghi thức lễ tang của quân đội mà đây là nghĩa cử của đồng chí, đồng đội. Tất nhiên, nếu phối hợp tốt với gia đình thì việc tổ chức đón sẽ trang trọng hơn.
Các bác thực tế chút đi, chỉ có Đại tướng Võ Nguyên Giáp mất được đi hẳn một chuyên cơ thôi.

I think both of you should clam down and stop this fight.

 

[Viet]

His age is no problem man, it simply means more life experience and knowledge.
Yes, I know he hates communism and I did read once his story about how he had to leave Vietnam and what happened to his family, so I understand his views.

That being said, have to let go of the past, can't live on the past for ever. There are many people like him, Viets and Americans, that have those issues. Actually, many American veterans are living in Danang now (and there are many that come often) and they always say the same thing, they are surprised of how friendly and forgiving Vietnamese people are to them (including those that fought against them) and the fact that most Viets got over the war and let go of it. These people are here working out issues including some pretty dark ones sometimes.

Letting go does not mean to forget (but it does include forgiving), but its something that needs to be done eventually. Its not healthy to live in the past and to carry those types of emotions.
Somehow, it seems to be more difficult for those in the US (both Viets and Americans) to let go of the past. I hope it eventually works out for @gambit .

actually it is a thing of the older generations that fought on the american side against the northerner and vietcongs.

gambit or my father for instance.

the majority if young overseas vietnamese today have no hard feeling at all, all are much realistic and accept the thing as it is. sure, you can see republic south vietnam flag here and there on demo and events. many hate or dislike communism. but most of them send money back home to the family and relatives, make holidays and invest in business in vietnam.

some of us have gained important posts in the new home countries. this young couple, formerly refugee on a fishing boat: Hieu Le and his wife Lan Le, now the new governor of south australia. we do good things.

Meet the former Vietnamese refugee to be South Australia’s next governor | ABC Radio Australia

 

[Viet]

I like the pics. navy parade in cam ranh bay, to commemorate the 60th anniversary of founding of vietnam people´s navy. some pic many be already posted.

The Marines

Naval Special Forces

Submarine Formation

 

[Viet]

Specialised vehicle for naval weapons

Missile corvette

 

[Viet]

Kilo-class submarine- the HQ-184 Haiphong

Kilo-class submarines -HQ-183 Ho Chi Minh City and 182 Hanoi

Naval Helicopters