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[Carlosa]

JF-17 is a great canditate to replace the old Mig-21 fleet.

JF-17 is a piece of junk; and chinese junk on top of that!

This is how the "special" relationship between Pakistan and China works:

PLAAF rejected JF-17 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLA rejected MBT-2000 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLANAF rejected CM-400AKG >> dumped in Pakistan

 

[Viet]

JF-17 is a piece of junk; and chinese junk on top of that!

This is how the "special" relationship between Pakistan and China works:

PLAAF rejected JF-17 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLA rejected MBT-2000 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLANAF rejected CM-400AKG >> dumped in Pakistan

really? LOL...best friend on earth. chinese are smart, rude business people as everybody knows it.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

JF-17 is a piece of junk; and chinese junk on top of that!

This is how the "special" relationship between Pakistan and China works:

PLAAF rejected JF-17 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLA rejected MBT-2000 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLANAF rejected CM-400AKG >> dumped in Pakistan

All are for the lucrative Export market. The Burmese are considering buying JF-17 & Bangladesh already have MBT-2000 on their stock.

Beside Russian weapons are complete piece of @#$^ just ask the Indian about how the Russian even treat its most loyal customer.

 

[cnleio]

JF-17 is a piece of junk; and chinese junk on top of that!

This is how the "special" relationship between Pakistan and China works:

PLAAF rejected JF-17 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLA rejected MBT-2000 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLANAF rejected CM-400AKG >> dumped in Pakistan

LOL, can't stop laugh ... JF-17 is the best choice & affordable price to replace Mig-21 for Vietnam.

 

[Zeenar]

JF-17 is a piece of junk; and chinese junk on top of that!

This is how the "special" relationship between Pakistan and China works:

PLAAF rejected JF-17 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLA rejected MBT-2000 >> dumped in Pakistan
PLANAF rejected CM-400AKG >> dumped in Pakistan

Just because PLA doesn't want them doesn't mean that they are junks, and a single JF-17 could take down 10 of your Mig-21s, an Al-Khalid could probably have a kill ratio of 1:10 with your old and shitty T-54s and YJ-12 is way cheaper than Yakhonts and it is as effective as Yakhont, Get your facts right before you say something stupid, kid, and remember to apply cold water on your burn.

All are for the lucrative Export market. The Burmese are considering buying JF-17 & Bangladesh already have MBT-2000 on their stock.

Beside Russian weapons are complete piece of @#$^ just ask the Indian about how the Russian even treat its most loyal customer.

The export version of the T-90 is an example :d

 

[Carlosa]

Just because PLA doesn't want them doesn't mean that they are junks, and a single JF-17 could take down 10 of your Mig-21s, an Al-Khalid could probably have a kill ratio of 1:10 with your old and shitty T-54s and YJ-12 is way cheaper than Yakhonts and it is as effective as Yakhont, Get your facts right before you say something stupid, kid, and remember to apply cold water on your burn.


The export version of the T-90 is an example :d

Only in your dreams kid.
If Pakistan will go to war against India with that stuff, you might as well start working on your burial preparations.

In case you don't know, chinese tanks participating in the Russian tank tournament a few months ago, did terribly, some broke down and were put out of commission, the others did pretty bad in terms of hitting their targets. Another fine example of high quality chinese weapons.

 

[Carlosa]

All are for the lucrative Export market. The Burmese are considering buying JF-17 & Bangladesh already have MBT-2000 on their stock.

Beside Russian weapons are complete piece of @#$^ just ask the Indian about how the Russian even treat its most loyal customer.

Wow, I'm very impressed now. Burma and Bangladesh decided to order those weapon systems (because of cheap chinese loans), therefore, they should be of high quality, got it now.

 

[Zeenar]

Only in your dreams kid.
If Pakistan will go to war against India with that stuff, you might as well start working on your burial preparations.

In case you don't know, chinese tanks participating in the Russian tank tournament a few months ago, did terribly, some broke down and were put out of commission, others did pretty bad in terms of hitting their targets. Another fine example of high quality chinese weapons.

Burial preparations? You think we're weak? Indians have already tried to prove what you've said 5 times bro and they failed.
Oh, and here is an example of your "high quality" modernized T-72 which was destroyed by a "shit quality" Chinese Type 96 in South Sudan, and BTW the term "Junk" is often used by the West to describe Russian military equipment.
And yeah Chineses tank were so bad they won 3rd place unlike those who don't even have tanks to compete and only can sit at home to criticize other's military equipment.

 

[Reashot Xigwin]

Wow, I'm very impressed now. Burma and Bangladesh decided to order those weapon systems (because of cheap chinese loans), therefore, they should be of high quality, got it now.

Much higher quality than the Rusky can provide I'm sure. BTW the Rusky also notorious for backdoor dealing you will eventually have to pay more for its weapon system than what it is on the paper.

 

[Soryu]

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Burial preparations? You think we're weak? Indians have already tried to prove what you've said 5 times bro and they failed.
Oh, and here is an example of your "high quality" modernized T-72 which was destroyed by a "shit quality" Chinese Type 96 in South Sudan, and BTW the term "Junk" is often used by the West to describe Russian military equipment.
And yeah Chineses tank were so bad they won 3rd place unlike those who don't even have tanks to compete and only can sit at home to criticize other's military equipment.

Really !? Can you give some more infos !? you bla bla bla ... so much about how good Chinese quality like you used it before ...

 

[Zeenar]

Really !? Can you give some more infos !? you bla bla bla ... so much about how good Chinese quality like you used it before ...

Mystery of the Type 96 Chinese cases slaughtered T series 72 | DBV | VietNam News
Info as you wanted, and I am using an Oppo phone which is Chinese to reply to your comments.

 

[Carlosa]

You guys keep giving examples of a chinese state of the art tank against a very old T-72, care to compare with T-90 anybody?

Mystery of the Type 96 Chinese cases slaughtered T series 72 | DBV | VietNam News
Info as you wanted, and I am using an Oppo phone which is Chinese to reply to your comments.

Type 96 is the one that got slaughtered in the Russian tank competition, that tells me enough.

In the Sudanese war you are comparing professional tank crews of the Sudanese army against the rag tag militias of South Sudan, not a proper comparison.

 

[pher]

You guys keep giving examples of a chinese state of the art tank against a very old T-72, care to compare with T-90 anybody?



Type 96 is the one that got slaughtered in the Russian tank competition, that tells me enough.

In the Sudanese war you are comparing professional tank crews of the Sudanese army against the rag tag militias of South Sudan, not a proper comparison.

China has its T-99 to match russia's T-90, and far better.

As for tank competition, China's T-96 secured 3rd place among 11 participants in a match which russia set the evaluation criteria and strongly favored T-72, you call this slaughter? you ignorant troll. In fact, China T-96 is the only team who hit all the targets and have the most accurate firing power, far outperfoming T-72 of all other teams, which may explain what happened in Sudan.

 

[cnleio]

Only in your dreams kid.
If Pakistan will go to war against India with that stuff, you might as well start working on your burial preparations.

In case you don't know, chinese tanks participating in the Russian tank tournament a few months ago, did terribly, some broke down and were put out of commission, the others did pretty bad in terms of hitting their targets. Another fine example of high quality chinese weapons.

LOL ! One thing u never admit, China type96A tank still won N.o3 in “2014 Russia Tank Race” and there'r 12 nation teams joint.

What a Pity man ! 2015 take Vitnam to attend it let's see how long u can run... if u strong, to win a medal here.

 

[Zeenar]

You guys keep giving examples of a chinese state of the art tank against a very old T-72, care to compare with T-90 anybody?



Type 96 is the one that got slaughtered in the Russian tank competition, that tells me enough.

In the Sudanese war you are comparing professional tank crews of the Sudanese army against the rag tag militias of South Sudan, not a proper comparison.

Old T-72? i don't think so, those T-72Es were hijacked from a cargo ship of Ukraine by Somali pirates then sold to South Sudaneses.
Here's the specifications of the thing you called "old".
Upgraded version of the T-72B ("E" stands for "Export") showed at IDEX 2011 and developed together with the T-64E. The hull front and sides are protected by Kontakt-1 ERA boxes, while the turret front, sides (sides' frontal part) and top is homogeneously protected by "Nozh" armor. The engine is upgraded, it is an 5TDFMA-1 multi-fuel diesel engine, developing 1050 hp. The tank features also air conditioning, day-and-night sighting system with integrated laser rangefinder and ATGM capability.
Source: Wikipedia