Lets solve the disputed water in civil maner. No one support a country using warship to arrest fishing boats in disputed waterwe used to use small patrol boats,
Why posting made-in-Vietnam cars here? Why do you post fishing dispute here in this military thread? You act as if your country survival depends on fishing.
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Not long ago they did bullshit of Asean leadership as if it is their birthright. Luckily they move on.Shooting at other be justified or not and leadership of a bloc do not fit together.Oh right, let's see...
"Critics of the policy have observed that the governments of Greece and Turkey were themselves far from democratic at this time, and neither were facing Soviet subversion in the spring of 1949. Historian Eric Foner writes that the Doctrine "set a precedent for American assistance to anticommunist regimes throughout the world, no matter how undemocratic"
A doctrine that fight communist using methods that are initially designated to be "unsavory practices only used by the communist". Yup, sound like a shining example of democracy to me.
And I think I lost you with that sentence...What was that supposed to mean?
Unlike Indonesian with those trigger-happy troops and retard Internet users, we Vietnamese value the ability to use brain in every action and avoid resorting to live ammunition. But let put this into a perspective that you feeble brain could understand
Indonesia possesses a military that could scare Vietnam into submission by capturing Vietnam fishing boat, opening fire against Vietnam Coast Guard and so on? Then why the heck Vietnam has no active terrorist/insurrection why Indonesia itself is filled to the brim with those? Simple: Vietnam crush terrorist while Indonesia focus on capturing unarmed fishing boats. Too eager to shoot shooting boats but could not put a stop to few bands of pirates and terrorists? Yeah, the word for that kind of action is: COWARDICE.
And for the love of god, use sentences that people that learn English are able to comprehend. Reading your mess of words slowly decreases my IQ.
Fish pirate? Oh I think your brain lacks common senses. Here is what I mean about piracy in Indonesia.
"Piracy in Indonesia is not only notorious, but according to a survey conducted by the International Maritime Bureau, it was also the country sporting the highest rate of pirate attacks back in 2004, where it subsequently dropped to second place of the world's worst country of pirate attacks in 2008, finishing just behind Nigeria. However, Indonesia is still deemed the country with the world's most dangerous water due to its high piracy rate"
"The term 'Piracy in Indonesia' includes both cases of Indonesian pirates hijacking other cargo and tanks, as well as the high rate of practising piracy within the country itself. Approximately 50,000 vessels worth of the world's trade employ the Strait of Malacca annually, including oil from the Persian Gulf and manufactured goods to the Middle East and Suez Canal. The success that stems from this trade portal makes the Strait an ideal location for pirate attacks"
"The first group consisted of four Indonesian pirates who were being arrested where they confessed that they aided and abetted a larger syndicate that operated in the Strait of Malacca. The second group of attackers during that month included six Indonesian men who were being detained. They were suspects for a group of Indonesian pirates that allegedly boarded a merchant vessel in Singapore. During the attack, warning shots were being fired and the pirates fled the scene. It is believed that the group arrived from Batam, an island that was closely situated to the Strait."
Yeah, Indonesia Navy is doing a fantastic job. But as Indonesian pirates got guns (crappy ones but could still shoot) while Vietnamese fisherman don't have anything, it's easy to see which one is the easier target between the two.
"Patrol boats: with M2 Browning and 76mm gun for fisheries control duty? Now that is a wee bit like actual warships. How about we strap missile to our Coast Guard vessels and call them "patrol boat" as well?
With the number of Indonesian trolls dropping by the minute, time to update on the T-90 delivery phase for Vietnam People Army. Look like our heavy tank transporters had a busy day at port.
Dont worry once our BAKAMLA got their hands on larger ships such as these
Well, we tried using small patrol boats once and the result= vietnam CG started harrasing those boats,so we let the fishing vessels flee.
Its okay, we can be leaders while at the same time shooting at our neighbors criminal fishing vessels . We're friends right??
Why?? This is a vietnam military forum, and it appears one of your law enforcement ship clashed with our ships, numerous times
Well Im sorry for your birth defect, you seems to have a problems understanding this, the piracy in the strait of malacca is a trilateral problems shared between Indonesia,malaysia,singapore. Why nalacca strait? Simply its one of the busiest (if not the busiest) maritime route in the planet , with merchant ships carrying goods and stuff .simply put the richer you are, the more determinded are the thieves. So its not a surprise why pirates focused their operation in those particular area,
Yes you are Asean leader bullshit.Dont worry once our BAKAMLA got their hands on larger ships such as these
We sure will start to withdraw our warships,but till then . Be sure vietnam dont intimidate our law enforcement vessels anymore. Cheers
Well, we tried using small patrol boats once and the result= vietnam CG started harrasing those boats,so we let the fishing vessels flee.
Then we tried to use warships,and as u can see, it worked m8.
Its okay, we can be leaders while at the same time shooting at our neighbors criminal fishing vessels . We're friends right??
You forget the commies north vietnam and their vietcong
Why?? This is a vietnam military forum, and it appears one of your law enforcement ship clashed with our ships, numerous times
Well Im sorry for your birth defect, you seems to have a problems understanding this, the piracy in the strait of malacca is a trilateral problems shared between Indonesia,malaysia,singapore. Why nalacca strait? Simply its one of the busiest (if not the busiest) maritime route in the planet , with merchant ships carrying goods and stuff .simply put the richer you are, the more determinded are the thieves. So its not a surprise why pirates focused their operation in those particular area,
But hey at least the pirates are true in their intentions,unlike vietnam of course who used its fishing fleet to grab others country resources and while at the same time bashing china for incursion. So sad
oh yes I've heard this before, another hyped up russian weaponry capable of obliterating an entire force, hahahaha. Ok. I understand you're so focused on economy, that explains why poor countries like you with GDP just 1/4th of Indonesia LOL could pour a lot of money to buy latest russian weaponry, I think that building an Armed forces=Economic development in vietnam . so sad
Im waiting for that, but like most vietnamese forumer here, just talk no action, big mouthed A-hole thinks their country is some kind of juggernaut with so called 9th largest Armed forces with T90,Kilo,Gepard and 3000++++++++++++ Kh 35 anti dick missile
For the last time indonesia does not have a territory dispute with vietnam. Don't u guys have google in communist vietnam?
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Can you remind me the huge military achievements of the Indonesian military of the last 50 years... Aceh, East Timor, Papua? Like I said before, you guys are good fighting when you outnumber by 10-20 times your opponents... Indonesian navy will never send those Natura ships unless they are sure they outnumber 5-10 times the Viet Nam Navy , that's how you guys fight...oh yes I've heard this before, another hyped up russian weaponry capable of obliterating an entire force, hahahaha. Ok. I understand you're so focused on economy, that explains why poor countries like you with GDP just 1/4th of Indonesia LOL could pour a lot of money to buy latest russian weaponry, I think that building an Armed forces=Economic development in vietnam . so sad
Im waiting for that, but like most vietnamese forumer here, just talk no action, big mouthed A-hole thinks their country is some kind of juggernaut with so called 9th largest Armed forces with T90,Kilo,Gepard and 3000++++++++++++ Kh 35 anti dick missile
Btw good luck sending your tiny boat near natuna next time, meanwhile Indonesia had just finisj building up it joint military base in natuna, I pity those molniya boat, they'll have to return for fuel
Notice all those wars were fought far away from indonesia's proper & those two include naval & aerial insertion in a massive scale (see trikora & dwikora operations). It also shows indonesian finese in handling insurgency. There's an old joke in the TNI that if we join the vietnam war the communist would have been driven out long ago.
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can you tell me how many times vietcong got fucked during the entirety of the vietnam war????, remember kids vietnam war is won politically by north vietnam not militarily against the U.S.
why would we compare ourself with a state that fund terrorism?????
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