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For someone who is interested of history. Meeting between members of Vietnam and Chinese military general staffs at the two country border. Not very far from Lai Chau at Vietnamese side. In 1979 the 600,000 men PLA army started the war by entering multiple points. However their real intention was camouflaging the two major pinzer movement attacks by the western flank at Lang Son and eastern flank at Lai Chau with the aim to encircle the main force of Vietnamese army stationed in the northern front. Chinese communist comrades realized too late their Vietnamese brothers knew the attack plan.
One of the most worthless wars in the human history. worthless bloodshed.
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Spoken like a true poser. Also its Abram Tank.Can't wait for the delivery of the first batch of T90S tanks. The firepower of 125mm main cannon is reportedly more powerful than of US Abraham tank.
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Why poser? It's not a secret the T90's 125 mm far reaching cannon is more powerful. Auto loading? The Russian panzer can rapid fire 22 rounds in every 5 seconds thanks to intelligent autoloading mechanism.Spoken like a true poser. Also its Abram Tank.
120mm & 125mm have pretty much the same performance. With the difference with one designed for auto-loading.
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Oh yes an extra 5mm somehow makes a tank round more powerful. Oh how come Nato country doesn't make 130mm the standard tank round? I mean its 5mm larger than the Russian round. Oh jeez if only they are as smart as you. [emoji6]Why poser? It's not a secret the T90's 125 mm far reaching cannon is more powerful. Auto loading? The Russian panzer can rapid fire 22 rounds in every 5 seconds thanks to intelligent autoloading mechanism.
No need to run amok nor appear to be like a resurrection of a Chinese poster that is banned. Why should I shut up? This is a Vietnam thread. There are many articles comparing the two tanks, everyone can make up his own minds and opinions.Oh yes an extra 5mm somehow makes a tank round more powerful. Oh how come Nato country doesn't make 130mm the standard tank round? I mean its 5mm larger than the Russian round. Oh jeez if only they are as smart as you. [emoji6]
Jesus christ mate if you don't know anything about anything its better to just shut up. The rusky 3BM & the american M829 have almost the same performance, with the american one slightly better in accuracy & penetration. *This is not counting the DU round.
On the contrary Autoloader is not meant to make a gun shoot faster it is meant to reduce the size of the crew. Having a loader actually makes the gun shoot faster.
Go to the armored warfare section of the forum & get yourself educated.
This is a military forum. Not facebook. This forum purpose its to share knowledge about military matter. Like I just did. You should be thankful it was just me. In other thread you would be lynched for saying 125mm is better because some people said it on teh intehwebz.No need to run amok nor appear to be like a resurrection of a Chinese poster that is banned. Why should I shut up? This is a Vietnam thread. There are many articles comparing the two tanks, everyone can make up his own minds and opinions.
You become very nasty just because other don't share your opinions.
Sharing knowledge on military matters? Man you sound as if you work in a tank factory assembling cannons into the tank chassis by yourself.This is a military forum. Not facebook. This forum purpose its to share knowledge about military matter. Like I just did. You should be thankful it was just me. In other thread you would be lynched for saying 125mm is better because some people said it on teh intehwebz.
Here's a link if you want to know more about Russian APFSDS: http://fofanov.armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/ARM/apfsds/ammo.html
A bit of warning though the Rusky tend to sell "waterdown" (monkey model) version of their weapons: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_variants_of_Soviet_military_equipment
I'm was an army brat. My family were in the military for 3 generation.Sharing knowledge on military matters? Man you sound as if you work in a tank factory assembling cannons into the tank chassis by yourself.
If true then yourself and your family represent the entire indo military history since the Dutch released your country into independence.I'm was an army brat. My family were in the military for 3 generation.
Believe me I know stuff.
Or maybe you should read new book. The myth that 125mm are better than the Nato 120mm comes from an old article in the 80s: https://books.google.ca/books?id=Dj9VAAAAYAAJIf true then yourself and your family represent the entire indo military history since the Dutch released your country into independence.
You should write a book.