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[jhungary]

@Viet @Carlosa

It's with heavy heart to inform you one of your compatriot, an Vietnamese American was killed on the June 17 USS Fitzgerald collision with Cargo Ship ACX Crystal.

The US Navy just release the name of all 7 Killed in the accident. One name, belong to an Vietnamese American

Sonar Technician 3rd Class Ngoc T Truong Huynh, 25, from Oakville, Connecticut

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/...avy-identifies-7-deceased-fitzgerald-sailors/

RIP sailor

YOKOSUKA, Japan (NNS) - The remains of seven Sailors previously reported missing were located in flooded berthing compartments, after divers gained access to the spaces, June 18, that were damaged when the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) was involved in a collision with the Philippine-flagged merchant vessel ACX Crystal.

The deceased are:

- Gunner’s Mate Seaman Dakota Kyle Rigsby, 19, from Palmyra, Virginia

- Yeoman 3rd Class Shingo Alexander Douglass, 25, from San Diego, California

- Sonar Technician 3rd Class Ngoc T Truong Huynh, 25, from Oakville, Connecticut

- Gunner’s Mate 2nd Class Noe Hernandez, 26, from Weslaco, Texas

- Fire Controlman 2nd Class Carlos Victor Ganzon Sibayan, 23, from Chula Vista, California

- Personnel Specialist 1st Class Xavier Alec Martin, 24, from Halethorpe, Maryland

- Fire Controlman 1st Class Gary Leo Rehm Jr., 37, from Elyria, Ohio

The incident is currently under investigation.

 

[yugocrosrb95]

It is more tragic when a 19 year old dies.

 

[jhungary]

It is more tragic when a 19 year old dies.

yeah, but this is Vietnamese subsection.....They may want to know one of them was just killed 2 days ago...Have posted this on another thread as the update on USS Fitzgerald collision.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Lmao you are from indonesia? Hahahahahahaha and you want to talk about militaries? Hahahahahaha cmon, you serious right? Indonesia and military cant even be written in the same sentence. Indonesia cant fight a war against me let alone a country. Thats a fact. All fact and no fiction.



Fun fact: Vietnam militia can conquer indonesia with spoons and forks. No guns needed against cowards. Indonesian military, which is in and of itself a silly joke, is just all show and no go? When have you guys ever won a war against anything? Shit, ill conquer indonesia solo, and thats a fact. You never hear anything about indonesia and its military for a reason. Its not even worth mentioning. Its just pathetic. Thats why you're here trying to comfort yourself with selfproclaimed fact lol.

Lets conquer the whole ASEAN wt USCGC Morgenthau

 

[initial_d_mk2]

Is this the quality of vietnamese people!!?? i dont know i should laugh or took pity

 

[Viet]

@Viet @Carlosa

It's with heavy heart to inform you one of your compatriot, an Vietnamese American was killed on the June 17 USS Fitzgerald collision with Cargo Ship ACX Crystal.

The US Navy just release the name of all 7 Killed in the accident. One name, belong to an Vietnamese American

Sonar Technician 3rd Class Ngoc T Truong Huynh, 25, from Oakville, Connecticut

http://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/...avy-identifies-7-deceased-fitzgerald-sailors/

RIP sailor

YOKOSUKA, Japan (NNS) - The remains of seven Sailors previously reported missing were located in flooded berthing compartments, after divers gained access to the spaces, June 18, that were damaged when the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Fitzgerald (DDG 62) was involved in a collision with the Philippine-flagged merchant vessel ACX Crystal.

The deceased are:

- Gunner’s Mate Seaman Dakota Kyle Rigsby, 19, from Palmyra, Virginia

- Yeoman 3rd Class Shingo Alexander Douglass, 25, from San Diego, California

- Sonar Technician 3rd Class Ngoc T Truong Huynh, 25, from Oakville, Connecticut

- Gunner’s Mate 2nd Class Noe Hernandez, 26, from Weslaco, Texas

- Fire Controlman 2nd Class Carlos Victor Ganzon Sibayan, 23, from Chula Vista, California

- Personnel Specialist 1st Class Xavier Alec Martin, 24, from Halethorpe, Maryland

- Fire Controlman 1st Class Gary Leo Rehm Jr., 37, from Elyria, Ohio

The incident is currently under investigation.

I read the news. For a moment I thought, wait a moment, a Filipino container ship, great shit, Durtete takes revenge for Mindanao. How can a fast, agile and modern $1 billion aegis destroyer equipped by most sophisticated radar and navigation system be hit by a slow moving big ship? And nearly got sunk. Ok the container ship made unexpected U-turn, regardless the destroyer designed to escape even a salvo of enemy torpedo should be able to avoid the collision.

There are questions the parents of the dead young sailors certainly want to be answered.

 

[jhungary]

I read the news. For a moment I thought, wait a moment, a Filipino container ship, great shit, Durtete takes revenge for Mindanao. How can a fast, agile and modern $1 billion aegis destroyer equipped by most sophisticated radar and navigation system be hit by a slow moving big ship? And nearly got sunk. Ok the container ship made unexpected U-turn, regardless the destroyer designed to escape even a salvo of enemy torpedo should be able to avoid the collision.

There are questions the parents of the dead young sailors certainly want to be answered.

Well, my source in the navy told me that there are high chances that the Cargo Ship is Iron Fisting the ship, which mean nobody was in the pilot house and the ship was run on autopilot. The Cargo Ship sudden movement was never explained, the captain of the cargo ship said the ship was never turn around or made any sharp turn (but you can see from the published AIS data almost everywhere suggested that it did) and the ship turned at 1703-1709, the destroyer hit it at 1720 as the 7th Fleet press conference reported

In some way, this cannot be avoid, 11 minutes is very small time to react to be honest, but I would have thing the captain of the destroyer would probably be relieved for command failure because he was not in the pilot house or bridge at that moment, he was trapped in his quarter when both ship crashed. And since 7 men were killed, there gonna be answer.

 

[Viet]

Well, my source in the navy told me that there are high chances that the Cargo Ship is Iron Fisting the ship, which mean nobody was in the pilot house and the ship was run on autopilot. The Cargo Ship sudden movement was never explained, the captain of the cargo ship said the ship was never turn around or made any sharp turn (but you can see from the published AIS data almost everywhere suggested that it did) and the ship turned at 1703-1709, the destroyer hit it at 1720 as the 7th Fleet press conference reported

In some way, this cannot be avoid, 11 minutes is very small time to react to be honest, but I would have thing the captain of the destroyer would probably be relieved for command failure because he was not in the pilot house or bridge at that moment, he was trapped in his quarter when both ship crashed. And since 7 men were killed, there gonna be answer.

If either ship was running on autopilot and the crew going sleeping in a busy waterway then it is reckless if not committing suicide. 11 minutes should be enough time for the destroyer. We are talking about a $1 billion ship. I think too the captain of the destroyer should take some responsibilities. He bears consequences of the crew if it fails.

 

[jhungary]

If either ship was running on autopilot and the crew going sleeping in a busy waterway then it is reckless if not committing suicide. 11 minutes should be enough time for the destroyer. We are talking about a $1 billion ship. I think too the captain of the destroyer should take some responsibilities. He bears consequences of the crew if it fails.

The US warship is probably piloted by OOD (Officer On Deck) which is a junior officer (a LT or LTJG) and the Captain was sleeping in his quarter. The Cargo Ship likely to have Autopilot on.

Well, 11 Minutes may seem a lot, but power train on a destroyer does not kick in until it's 2 to 3 minutes after the command was put in, and while the Destroyer may be nimble, they can probably dodge a small ship (or Smaller ship) in that time frame, but a big giant Cargo ship heading your way in 10 minutes in a congested sea lane, there are not much you can do, the cargoship is too big and you need to totally get out of its way to be able to sail clear, not sure if there are anything to be done, every which way you go, that ship is going to hit you.

But yes, most believe the Captain on the Destroyer is going to be replaced for sure. He took helm of that ship a little over a yaer, before that the captain of USS Fitzgerald is a Chinese American called CMDR Robert Shu.

 

[Viet]

The US warship is probably piloted by OOD (Officer On Deck) which is a junior officer (a LT or LTJG) and the Captain was sleeping in his quarter. The Cargo Ship likely to have Autopilot on.

Well, 11 Minutes may seem a lot, but power train on a destroyer does not kick in until it's 2 to 3 minutes after the command was put in, and while the Destroyer may be nimble, they can probably dodge a small ship (or Smaller ship) in that time frame, but a big giant Cargo ship heading your way in 10 minutes in a congested sea lane, there are not much you can do, the cargoship is too big and you need to totally get out of its way to be able to sail clear, not sure if there are anything to be done, every which way you go, that ship is going to hit you.

But yes, most believe the Captain on the Destroyer is going to be replaced for sure. He took helm of that ship a little over a yaer, before that the captain of USS Fitzgerald is a Chinese American called CMDR Robert Shu.

I saw a video when a destroyer kicks in emergency brake, full stop and pulls back. Quite impressive. Ok anyway as for Chinese or Vietnamese whatever nationality, as captain he bears responsibility and consequences everything onboard everything what his crew does or fails to do. Seaman's tradition.

 

[Nike]

North Korea at its worst state it was during famine would kick todays Indonesian army, let alone in its prime strenght in 1980's which would conventionaly destroy Indonesia.

just a big lol, how? they dont have meaningful Navy

 

[initial_d_mk2]

just a big lol, how? they dont have meaningful Navy

Let them be, they are living in their own fantasy, their parent inhale too much agent orange that makes them a bit "special" if you know what i mean lols...... You know, i have to admit that vietnamese are number one in south east asia, number one in delusional and bullshiting.....

 

[xiao qi]

Senior Chinese military official visits Vietnam
Nguyen PhuTrong, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam (CPV) Central Committee meets with visiting Vice Chairman of China’s Central Military Commission Gen. Fan Changlong in Hanoi on June 18. (eng.chinamil.com.cn/ Photo by Li Xiaowei)

HANOI, June 19 (ChinaMil) – General Fan Changlong, vice chairman of China’s Central Military Commission (CMC), visited Vietnam on June 18, and met with Nguyen PhuTrong, General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam, Vietnamese President Tran Dai Quang, Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc and Defense Minister Ngo Xuan Lich in Hanoi.

During the meeting, General Fan Changlong said that China and Vietnam are good neighbors and partners and are a community of shared destiny of strategic significance.

Thanks to the care and push of the leaders of both countries, the China-Vietnam relations is growing with good momentum, and their cooperation in various fields has yielded good results, Fan added.

China is willing to cooperate with Vietnam in implementing the Belt and Road Initiative and the Two Corridors, One Economic Circle initiative, and push pragmatic cooperation in all fields for mutual development, Fan continued.

China pays close attention to developing the mil-to-mil relationship with Vietnam and hopes to make united efforts to push it forward to a higher level, Fan added.

Nguyen PhuTrong said that Vietnam and China are friendly socialist neighbors, and the two countries and their Communist Parties are enjoying sound relationship and deepening communication and collaboration in various fields at present.

He added that Vietnam wishes the 19th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC National Congress) a great success, and believes that under the leadership of the CPC with Xi Jinping at the core, China is sure to achieve its goal of comprehensively building a moderately prosperous society.

Vietnamese President Tran Dai Quang thanked China for inviting him to visit China and attend the Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation, saying that closer friendly cooperation between the Vietnamese and Chinese militaries will help deepen the mutual trust between the two counties and Communist Parties and facilitate the fruitful collaboration between China and Vietnam.

Noting the traditional friendship between the two countries that was forged through war and blood, Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc said that Vietnam is willing to make joint efforts with China to implement the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea effectively and form a code of conduct early in the South China Sea.

He added that Vietnam looks forward to the fruitful development of bilateral and military-to-military relations with China.

Defense Minister Ngo Xuan Lich marked the substantial progress on the mil-to-mil relations between Vietnam and China in recent years and their sound cooperation in border defense, peacekeeping and search and rescue at sea. The Vietnamese military hopes to deepen the communication and cooperation with its Chinese counterpart and carry forward their traditional solidarity and friendship.

General Fan Changlong reaffirmed China's stance on the South China Sea issue, and stressed that the South China Sea islands are Chinese territory since ancient times.

The current situation in the South China Sea is stable, which is not easy and should be cherished, he added, and urged both sides to abide by the important consensuses reached by leaders of both countries and Communist Parties, step up strategic communication, properly control divergences, and maintain the overall situation of China-Vietnam relations and peace and stability in the South China Sea.

Chinese Ambassador to Vietnam Hong Xiaoyong, Commander of the PLA Southern Theater Command Yuan Yubai, Deputy Chief of Staff of the Joint Staff Department under China’s CMC Shao Yuanming, Chief of Staff of the PLA Army Liu Zhenli, Deputy Commander of the PLA Navy Liu Yi, and Deputy Political Commissar of the PLA Air Force Song Kun, were present in relevant activities.

Vietnamese President Tran Dai Quang meets with visiting Vice Chairman of China’s Central Military Commission Gen. Fan Changlong in Hanoi on June 18. (eng.chinamil.com.cn/Photo by Li Xiaowei)
http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2017-06/19/content_7644790.htm

 

[AViet]

Let them be, they are living in their own fantasy, their parent inhale too much agent orange that makes them a bit "special" if you know what i mean lols...... You know, i have to admit that vietnamese are number one in south east asia, number one in delusional and bullshiting.....

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Not all Vietnamese are like these, man. Most do like and respect Indonesia. Do not lump all Vietnamese and oversea ethnic Viet together.

 

[Viet]

The joke of century. A Chinese "scholar" warns Vietnam not to cozy up nor seek partnership to America and Japan because these evil two countries can destabilize the region. He lives in a dream world.

http://zeenews.india.com/world/vietnams-ambition-may-stir-confrontation-chinese-scholar-2016674.html

South Korea says "Sorry" and increases investment to a new record. Near one billion USD flows into Vietnam manufacturing machine per month.

http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=231434