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[cochine]

Many Chinese soldiers were sacrificed for this as well.

what ? Chinese logistic troops built roads from China to Vietnam in Vietnam war, then, on such roads Chinese has attacked us in Sino-Vietnam war 1979.

. In fact chinese logistic troops has begun withdrawal from Vietnam from 1968. China is allied with USA in Vietnam war from 1972.

 

[Viet]

When can you understand that the glory in the past is NEVER the guarantee of the victory in the future. Want to win the EW war in the future? Good, ask your scientists to do more relevant research. Brag the past victory has no real meaning at all.

Anyway, I fully respect the Vietnam soldiers that sacrificed in the Vietnam war. Many Chinese soldiers were sacrificed for this as well.

it is not bragging when talking of the past if it hints to the future. Thailand once sent envoy to Vietnam to surrender without we fired a single shot on them (after they heard we armed our armies with gunpowder weapons). go ask the Thai if they are keen for any confrontation today? despite all fancy weapons they receive, it´s army will run away faster we can catch them. no, Vietnam military strength lies not on military hardware. yes, VN appreciated your assistance, and the picture of China would remain bright if you did not turn weapons against Vietnam.

 

[Silent Knight]

When can you understand that the glory in the past is NEVER the guarantee of the victory in the future. Want to win the EW war in the future? Good, ask your scientists to do more relevant research. Brag the past victory has no real meaning at all.

Anyway, I fully respect the Vietnam soldiers that sacrificed in the Vietnam war. Many Chinese soldiers were sacrificed for this as well.

Well, that's why EW received huge investment from the MoD, besides the Air Force and Navy. We learned from the past, not living in it.

About the Chinese soldiers, we do have a cemetery for them in the North. Many was killed during the construction of China-Vietnam logistic roads. Sadly, these roads also served as markers and hidden caches of weapons for future Sino-Vietnam war.

 

[Carlosa]

Well, that's why EW received huge investment from the MoD, besides the Air Force and Navy. We learned from the past, not living in it.

About the Chinese soldiers, we do have a cemetery for them in the North. Many was killed during the construction of China-Vietnam logistic roads. Sadly, these roads also served as markers and hidden caches of weapons for future Sino-Vietnam war.

There is an expression in English: "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts". It refers to the war with Troy where the Greek army withdrew and left the famous Troyan horse as a gift, the gigantic wooden horse had greek soldiers hiding inside and later that night, those soldiers came out from the horse, opened the city gates and the Greek army entered the city and destroyed it.

This expression can be applied to China's help in the past "Beware of Chinese bearing gifts (the roads that they built)".

 

[Silent Knight]

Words has it that some of the tombs of Chinese soldiers were actually weapons cache. They just dug these up during the invasion.

I'm not sure if it's true of myth.

 

[Viet]

There is an expression in English: "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts". It refers to the war with Troy where the Greek army withdrew and left the famous Troyan horse as a gift, the gigantic wooden horse had greek soldiers hiding inside and later that night, those soldiers came out from the horse, opened the city gates and the Greek army entered the city and destroyed it.

This expression can be applied to China's help in the past "Beware of chinese bearing gifts (the roads that they built)".

In the case of China: the panda

 

[Viet]

Maybe the last word. As expected the parliament approves government intention of construction stop of nuclear power plants because of financial constraints. But that may be unexpected for someone: the government declares Russia and Japan will be the first countries that will build nuclear plants should the government decide to have them in the future.

https://sputniknews.com/asia/201611221047709141-vietnam-program-nuclear-russia/

 

[GS Zhou]

what ? Chinese logistic troops built roads from China to Vietnam in Vietnam war, then, on such roads Chinese has attacked us in Sino-Vietnam war 1979.

. In fact chinese logistic troops has begun withdrawal from Vietnam from 1968. China is allied with USA in Vietnam war from 1972.

I don't want to talk too much about history on this thread. This very likely to ignite another mini scale China-Vietnam war on PDF, which I feel very tired of.

There are about 1,500 Chinese soldiers sacrificed in Vietnam during the VN wars fighting against France and US. Besides roads, they also help Vietnam people and army to build fortifications, airports, ports, communication lines, oil pipelines, etc. Many of them belong to AA artillery troop (China sent 63 regiments of AA gun troops to assist Vietnam), and they were killed by the US planes; some of them come to Vietnam to help Vietnam sweep the sea mines in the key harbors, and killed by the mines.

They were dead at their best ages, for the friendship between the two countries! They should NEVER be blamed for anything happened after their death. I believe they deserve the full respect from the Vietnam people, no matter you like, or dislike the diplomatic relationship between us today.

Chinese ambassador to sweep the tombs of the Chinese soldiers, with the accompany of the Vietnam officials.

 

[cochine]

I don't want to talk too much about history on this thread. This very likely to ignite another mini scale China-Vietnam war on PDF, which I feel very tired of.

There are about 1,500 Chinese soldiers sacrificed in Vietnam during the VN wars fighting against France and US. Besides roads, they also help Vietnam people and army to build fortifications, airports, ports, communication lines, oil pipelines, etc. Many of them belong to AA artillery troop (China sent 63 regiments of AA gun troops to assist Vietnam), and they were killed by the US planes; some of them come to Vietnam to help Vietnam sweep the sea mines in the key harbors, and killed by the mines.

They were dead at their best ages, for the friendship between the two countries! They should NEVER be blamed for anything happened after their death. I believe they deserve the full respect from the Vietnam people, no matter you like, or dislike the diplomatic relationship between us today.

Chinese ambassador to sweep the tombs of the Chinese soldiers, with the accompany of the Vietnam officials.
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on this forum our countrymen have been posted comments so much about such "help" of China in Vietnam war, and many Chinese members said about such called " proxy war" of China to counter USA in the past.

I'm boring too to answer you again and again such idiot calculations of Chinese policy smugglers about this 'help' and 'proxy war" of China in cold war, the biggest traitor is China PRC when China had negotiated in back of us with USA from 1968-1972 when China had changed your side from Socialist pack to neo-imprealism of west was headed by USA. This logistic troops had been withdrawal totally from Vietnam in 1968 when Vietnam war is going on brutally. This is betrayal tactic of China.

Note that in time of 1948-1949, based on request of CPC, VPA army soldiers had joined with PLA in many military operation in Guangxi in China, VPA had helped China PLA too, for liberate Guangxi from KMT army.

Vietnamese soldiers were also sacrtified their life for liberate China from KMT,

Here is in Xuikou 水口 in China.

Here is in Dongheng in China. 龙州水口中越烈士陵园

 

[GS Zhou]

Vietnamese soldiers were also sacrtified their life for liberate China from KMT,

I appreciate the assistance from Vietnam in our liberation war. Fully. But could you pls show the same respect to our soldiers that sacrificed in Vietnam during the wars against France and US?? These soldiers should NEVER be blamed for anything happened after their death.

VN appreciated your assistance

thanks.

 

[xiao qi]

I appreciate the assistance from Vietnam in our liberation war. Fully. But could you pls show the same respect to our soldiers that sacrificed in Vietnam during the wars against France and US?? These soldiers should NEVER be blamed for anything happened after their death.


thanks.

 

[Aqsuperman]

Daily life in VPA Armored Corp.

 

[Viet]

US company Metal Shark at the Franklin facility says the first set of 18 Defiant class patrol vessels for Vietnam Coast Guard is complete. Little unclear how many aluminum boats in total will be built, some say 30 pieces Metal Shark Defiant in both variants 45 feet and 75 feet.

https://www.6sqft.com/shipbuilding-...yor-de-blasios-summer-ferry-service-deadline/

 

[Viet]

for Vietnam coast guard

 

[Viet]

comparing to other countries with similar size, population and security threat in the region, I would say Vietnam defence budget is very modest if not too little. look, despite military backing from America, Japan spends $50b a year. ok, the country faces a triple threats from Russia, China and North Korea, we only one, which is China in the northern and in the east threaters. I would say Cambodia and Thailand potential threats on the western front can be ignored, unless they get huge fancy hardware from China. Assuming we continue sticking to no-military alliance, we need at least 1/10 of China´s army budget to effectively defend Vietnam territory. understandbly, it can´t be achieved overnight. it will be a long run. right now, I assume some foreigners will laugh when seeing our equippments, failing to deter potential aggressor.

some pictures from the army website