Vietnam Defence Forum

[Viet]

more than 10 year. yes. not can or cant but why.
You could start to explain why Vietnam need to make 5.56.

Viet media reported we can produce NATO ammo recently. I asked you for source, and the only thing you provided is "yes"?

Why should I explain the army needs this and that ammo? I don't get it. You should ask the ministry of defence.

 

[BoQ77]

Viet media reported we can produce NATO ammo recently. I asked you for source, and the only thing you provided is "yes"?

Why should I explain the army needs this and that ammo? I don't get it. You should ask the ministry of defence.

Answer in my question to you in previous posts.
or you say suddenly Vietnam produce 5.56 for nothing?
ok I get that you could only read the media and paste the link.
I think about it in my turn.

You asked two questions, my Yes is for the first. FYI, I access by myself to factories who made ammunition, rifles, not hear rumor

 

[Carlosa]

As I mentioned before, our Star Ocean only needs to add the capabilities such as the land attack and missile defense in order to fully match the US Aegis.

Also, regardless about China global strike system is ready or not, it is still by far more advanced than anyone else on this planet. Do you have any objection with that?.

You are illustrating my point. Can't say that you have an AEGIS like system if you still have to develop the missile defense capability, which is a very important element of the system, that's why I say that is a work in progress.

You can't say that China's global strike system is more advance than USAs, most of their development is classified and you don't have access to it and anyway, my point is that you claim a capability that you still don't have, that's my problem. You can't say you have something while it is in development. Deployed and in development are 2 different things. Chaim it when you deploy it.

 

[Viet]

Answer in my question to you in previous posts.
or you say suddenly Vietnam produce 5.56 for nothing?
ok I get that you could only read the media and paste the link.
I think about it in my turn.

You asked two questions, my Yes is for the first. FYI, I access by myself to factories who made ammunition, not hear rumor

If you hear or know something, feel free and post here. Don't ask nor scold me when I post and translate from viet media. sometimes I am just the messenger. I won't complain if you do the same. If you visit ammo factory, don't hesitate posting pictures and reports here.

Or should I ask you: Hey BoQ, do you know how to configure a VPN tunnel between two Cisco routers? Ha ha ha I know it, but just want to mock you asking this question. Get it?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You are illustrating my point. Can't say that you have an AEGIS like system if you still have to develop the missile defense capability, which is a very important element of the system, that's why I say that is a work in progress.

You can't say that China's global strike system is more advance than USAs, most of their development is classified and you don't have access to it and anyway, my point is that you claim a capability that you still don't have, that's my problem. You can't say you have something while it is in development. Deployed and in development are 2 different things. Chaim it when you deploy it.

The 100% complete Star Ocean is on progress. Not that we just develop the Star Ocean right now, we have already deployed the Star Ocean right now, and we are adding more capabilities just as the missile interception with the HQ-26.

BTW, China has succeeded the hypersonic test more than 7 times, while the US not so much.

China has made the ground breaking Mach 20 hypersonic weapon right now, while the US has failed twice and has to restart everything from scratch.

BTW, don't be in denial, we beat them in a hypersonic race just like we handily beat them in the supercomputer race.

 

[BoQ77]

Vietnam can make ammunitions for all of firearms they own, AR-15, M-16, AK, M79, RPG, or heavy artillery, mortar, recoiless
For small firearm dont say as "can make NATO..." but say as "have demand to make or not" and Yes Vietnam has demand of 5.56 bullets as they have been using firearms of 5.56 for over 40 years.
They dont maintain production line of two size of ammunitions if the demand for each is low.

 

[Viet]

Self-made the SLBM is extremely hard. Otherwise, UK wouldn't give it up.

India and NK are only at the elementary level of this.

The UK has the option either to develop own SLBM or buy from the United States. She selected the first option because it saves money and time. Plus, any UK developed system would be inferior to the US missile system. It is a reasonable decision. Not because UK can't.

 

[Carlosa]

The 100% complete Star Ocean is on progress. Not that we just develop the Star Ocean right now, we have already deployed the Star Ocean right now, and we are adding more capabilities just as the missile interception with the HQ-26.

BTW, China has succeeded the hypersonic test more than 7 times, while the US not so much.

China has made the ground breaking Mach 20 hypersonic weapon right now, while the US has failed twice and has to restart everything from scratch.

BTW, don't be in denial, we beat them in a hypersonic race just we handily beat them in the supercomputer race.

I totally agree that China is doing very well in those areas, I'm simply saying that "in development" is not the same as "deployed".

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The UK has the option either to develop own SLBM or buy from the United States. She selected the first option because it saves money and time. Plus, any UK developed system would be inferior to the US missile system. It is a reasonable decision. Not because UK can't.

It wouldn't match the reliable performance of the Trident missile.

Just look at France, it is still struggling with its M-51 SLBM.

 

[BoQ77]

If you hear or know something, feel free and post here. Don't ask nor scold me when I post and translate from viet media. sometimes I am just the messenger. I won't complain if you do the same. If you visit ammo factory, don't hesitate posting pictures and reports here.

Or should I ask you: Hey BoQ, do you know how to configure a VPN tunnel between two Cisco routers? Ha ha ha I know it, but just want to mock you asking this question. Get it?

They dont allow you to take picture by yourself, if you need some pictures, they would take picture by themselves and provide you after checking carefully.

 

[Viet]

The 100% complete Star Ocean is on progress. Not that we just develop the Star Ocean right now, we have already deployed the Star Ocean right now, and we are adding more capabilities just as the missile interception with the HQ-26.

BTW, China has succeeded the hypersonic test more than 7 times, while the US not so much.

China has made the ground breaking Mach 20 hypersonic weapon right now, while the US has failed twice and has to restart everything from scratch.

BTW, don't be in denial, we beat them in a hypersonic race just we handily beat them in the supercomputer race.

I have a little problem with your announcement in military progress. Take F-35 fighter jet. While the media report problems after problems with the fighter jet development, there are hardly anything public what problems your stealth fighter jet has. It is as if China has a magic hand. It is as if your jet flies direct from the drawing board.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I totally agree that China is doing very well in those areas, I'm simply saying that "in development" is not the same as "deployed".

Regardless our HGV is deployed or not, no one is more advanced than us in this area.

The Star Ocean is like an OS platform, it is just capable to handle all kind of software including the missile defense system. China has the OS, but some software hasn't been completed yet.

The US Aegis back 1990s also didn't have the missile defense capability either, but can you say it was not the Aegis?

The Aegis is also an OS platform, but the US later has added more software to the OS which means the new capabilities.

 

[Viet]

It wouldn't match the reliable performance of the Trident missile.

Just look at France, it is still struggling with its M-51 SLBM.

That's no surprise, given the US are technically more advanced, having more resources than the British. That is not cheap developing SLBM, maintaining nuclear Armageddon in arms race.

 

[Carlosa]

Regardless our HGV is deployed or not, no one is more advanced than us in this area.

The Star Ocean is like an OS platform, it is just capable to handle all kind of software including the missile defense system. China has the OS, but some software hasn't been completed yet.

The US Aegis back 1990s also didn't have the missile defense capability either, but can you say it was not the Aegis?

The Aegis is also an OS platform, but the US later has added more software to the OS which means the new capabilities.

The point that you miss is capability, you claim to have the same capability, but you don't. AEGIS is way ahead of yours. You make premature claims and you often claim systems still not deployed.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I have a little problem with your announcement in military progress. Take F-35 fighter jet. While the media report problems after problems with the fighter jet development, there are hardly anything public what problems your stealth fighter jet has. It is as if China has a magic hand. It is as if your jet flies direct from the drawing board.

China is more confidential about their weapons, unlike the West.

BTW, F-35 is also full of glitches by itself, that's why so many problems have been reported.

The point that you miss is capability, you claim to have the same capability, but you don't. AEGIS is way ahead of yours. You make premature claims and you often claim systems still not deployed.

We have no problem to accept the US Aegis currently has more functions than ours.

But we have our own Aegis platform as well, and it is not that hard to integrate the new capabilities such as the missile defense system into your own Aegis platform. The Aegis Flight I didn't have the missile defense capability as well, but later it got integrated with this capability.

BTW, our hypersonic is by far more ahead over the world, even the US themselves have to acknowledge this reality.

That's no surprise, given the US are technically more advanced, having more resources than the British. That is not cheap developing SLBM, maintaining nuclear Armageddon in arms race.

The Trident missile is very good, but the only problem for UK is that they don't have to permission to inspect the missile or to obtain the code.

The nuclear code of the Trident missile was held by USA, and UK didn't have the permission to launch the missile by its own.