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China didn't plan to import Su-34 coz SAC building J-16(Su-30mkk clone), Does VN will buy it from Russia?
Su-34 will be a good platform for anti-ship mission, carry more missiles than Su-30.
No info. But my 2-cent opinion is Vietnam should consider inducting 5th gereration fighter aircrafts such as T-50 (in the future), as countermeasure against your Chinese stealth fighters. But I´m afraid that won´t happen soon as we don´t have any printing $-machine.

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If Vietnam uses Su-34, then they will have good anti-ship capability in South China Sea/East Sea.
Anyway, 12 or 24 (a squadron) would be the amount Vietnam would buy.
Mr Putin will visit Vietnam tomorrow. Let see what he has to offer. My favorite is rather submarines and destroyers. :D
 
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No info. But my 2-cent opinion is Vietnam should consider inducting 5th gereration fighter aircrafts such as T-50 (in the future), as countermeasure against your Chinese stealth fighters. But I´m afraid that won´t happen soon as we don´t have any printing $-machine.

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Mr Putin will visit Vietnam tomorrow. Let see what he has to offer. My favorite is rather submarines and destroyers. :D
It seem like Mr. Putin will allow VN to produce T-50 wt Russia :D:D
11 November 2013, 04:00
Russia-Vietnam: Together to New Cooperation Goals
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Russian President Vladimir Putin's article "Russia-Vietnam: together to New Cooperation Goals" will be published in the leading Vietnamese printed media ahead of the Russian leader’s official visit to the country. Read the full article below.

Ahead of my third visit to the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, I would like to take this opportunity to directly address Vietnamese public and share some thoughts on the future of our bilateral relations.

Russian-Vietnamese friendship has stood the test of time, having lived through the numerous tragic events of the 20th century, drastic changes in the world as well as in our countries. The main thing has always remained the same, however – respect towards each other, traditions of confidence and mutual assistance, ability to appreciate selfless support of the partners that will never betray.

In this context, let me quote famous words of President Ho Chi Minh: "When you drink water, think of its source." I consider that phrase to be a spiritual instruction to the present and future generations of citizens of our countries. One should always remember our common history and everything that unites us. This guarantees continuity and stability of future-oriented relations.

We are happy with major achievements reached by Vietnam on its path towards important economic and social reforms. Russia addresses complex national issues as well. We believe that active involvement in the integration processes, both at global and regional levels, is a powerful resource for development. We attach particular importance to cooperation with the Asia Pacific States among which Vietnam is one of the leading centers of growth.

The positions of our countries on issues relating to the global agenda are similar in many aspects. Together we seek answers to new challenges and threats. We uphold the rule of law in international relations and advocate that no alternative political or diplomatic tools should be used for resolving disputes and that every state has a right to choose it own path of development.

All these factors determine the intensity of Russian-Vietnamese strategic partnership which we can rightly call comprehensive. Last year, bilateral trade increased by 20 percent and amounted to $3.66 billion. We expect that it will reach $7 billion as early as 2015 and increase up to $10 billion in 2020.

The signing of a free trade area agreement (FTA) between the member states of the Customs Unions and Vietnam would contribute to achieving these objectives, which corresponds to the logic of political and economic integration in Eurasia and the Asia-Pacific region. The negotiations on a FTA are under way, and we hope to successfully complete them.

Energy, oil and gas sectors have traditionally played a key role in the development of Russian-Vietnamese industrial and investment cooperation. For instance, our leading joint venture Vietsovpetro has accumulated a unique technological expertise of working on the continental shelf. Over the years, the company has produced 206 million tons of oil and its total profits account for tens of billions of dollars.

The companies Rosneft and Gazprom increase their presence in Vietnam. Their projects relate to the production of hydrocarbons, modernization of refining capacities and supply to Vietnam of the liquefied natural gas from the Russian Far East.

Let me emphasize that our oil and gas cooperation is two-way and reciprocal.Rusvietpetrois an example of a successful joint venture in the Yamalo-Nenets autonomous district. We also expect a lot of another joint companyGazpromviet which has started the development of oil and gas fields in the Orenburg region and other Russian territories.

Our cooperation in energy goes far beyond hydrocarbon production. Russia helps Vietnam to develop a nuclear industry which is a totally new sector for the country. Rosatom will be responsible for the construction of the first Vietnamese nuclear power plant in the province of Ninh Thuan. The first and second nuclear units are scheduled to be launched in 2023 and 2024, respectively. Plans are being discussed to jointly construct a Nuclear Science & Technology Center.

Peaceful use of outer space and Russia's GLONASS satellite navigation system, air and rail transportation development, engineering, mining, banking and public health seem to be very promising areas of cooperation. The goal of the above projects and initiatives is to improve our investment, technology and industrial collaboration.

Our military and technical cooperation has taken a totally new dimension. It is no longer limited to export supplies, steps are being taken to launch in Vietnam licensed production of advanced military equipment with the assistance of Russian companies.

We have always been proud of the traditions of humanitarian cooperation in the field of education, science and culture. It is meaningful that this year Vietnam has been allocated the highest quota (except for the CIS countries) for training specialists in Russian educational institutions. Today about 5,000 citizens of Vietnam receive education in Russia, about 2000 of them study under interstate agreements.

I should underline the joint activities of our scientists, including many years of work of the Russian-Vietnamese Tropical research and technological center. Specialists all over the world highly appreciate the results of its applied and fundamental research.

My visit takes place during the Days of Russian culture in Vietnam. We are pleased to see that our Vietnamese friends are truly interested in our art. On their turn Russian citizens are waiting for the Vietnamese cultural workers to come to visit Russia. I am sure that the Days of Hanoi in Moscow in late November this year will have great success. Such exchanges have already proved their importance. We intend to continue this practice.

The number of Russians visiting Vietnam shows the willingness to learn better rich history and culture of the Vietnamese people. Last year this number doubled and for nine months of this year it has grown up by 66 per cent having risen beyond 200,000 people. I think that this tendency will continue taking into account the successful development of tourist infrastructure in Vietnam.

It is difficult to enumerate the areas in which Russia and Vietnam do not develop fruitful cooperation. I expect that the future high-level negotiations in Hanoi will be constructive as usual and will give new momentum to the strategic partnership between our states and peoples.
Read more: Russia-Vietnam: Together to New Cooperation Goals - News - Politics - The Voice of Russia: News, Breaking news, Politics, Economics, Business, Russia, International current events, Expert opinion, podcasts, Video
 
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Putin vows to boost Russian military supplies to Vietnam amid South China Sea dispute

The Russian president promises to expand arms supplies in a gesture certain to raise tensions with China amid maritime disputes

PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 12 November, 2013, 1:03pm
UPDATED : Wednesday, 13 November, 2013, 8:54am

Kristine Kwok and Agencies
Kristine.kwok@scmp.com
Putin vows to boost Russian military supplies to Vietnam amid South China Sea dispute | South China Morning Post

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Russian President Vladimir Putin has pledged to expand military supplies to Vietnam, a move that looks set to raise concerns from Beijing as tensions over the South China Sea linger.

In the latest sign of deepening military ties between the former allies, Putin made the announcement yesterday during a one-day state visit to Vietnam.

While still in a headlock with Vietnam over maritime territorial disputes, China sees closer Russia and Vietnam military ties as a move to counterbalance its rising power in the region.

Beijing is likely to be closely watching any discussion on future military co-operation between Russia and Vietnam during Putin's visit, according to Zhang Mingliang , an expert on China's relations with Southeast Asian countries from Guangzhou's Jinan University.

"Russia has been the biggest supporter of Vietnam in the South China Sea," said Zhang, citing submarine deals and a Russian oil company's presence in Vietnam's claimed waters.

One key area of scrutiny, Zhang said, would be any possible co-operation between the two countries in the Cam Ranh Bay, a strategically important naval base in the south central coast of Vietnam. Russia will reportedly provide technicians to help Vietnam prepare the base.

Russia has been Vietnam's biggest weapons supplier. Last week, Russia handed over the first of six Kilo diesel-electric submarines to Vietnam. Military analysts say the vessels would significantly boost Vietnam's efforts to create a deterrent against China's naval power.

Relations between China and Southeast Asian neighbours, particularly Vietnam and the Philippines, have been strained by territorial disputes in the South China Sea over the past few years. Since taking power, Chinese President Xi Jinping has made improving neighbourly ties a priority.

After a "constructive and open" meeting with his Vietnamese counterpart Truong Tan Sang yesterday, Putin said the two had specific discussions on military co-operation.

"We plan to expand the supplies of Russian military products to Vietnam," he said.

Also high on the agenda were energy agreements that would explore resources in the Arctic and build 13 nuclear plants in Vietnam.

"Russia is working with Vietnam not only to build the country's first nuclear power plant, but also train staff and set up a science and technology centre," Putin said.

Russia's Rosneft yesterday signed an agreement to allow Vietnam's Petrovietnam to explore oil and gas in the Pechora Sea in the Arctic off northwest Russia. Russian state monopoly Gazprom also agreed to jointly invest with Petrovietnam in the US$3 billion Dung Quat refinery in central Vietnam

Other agreements reportedly include economics, trade, investment, science and technology.

Media reports in Vietnam and Russia hailed Putin's visit as a move to further enhance bilateral ties, which was upgraded to a "comprehensive strategic partnership" last year.

Putin will leave Vietnam for South Korea today.

Additional reporting Associated Press and Reuters
 
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I doubted Vietnam can produce complex weaponry maybe just assembly line, and supply ready to defense at any moment. Not have to rely on shipment of weapons during war time.
 
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I doubted Vietnam can produce complex weaponry maybe just assembly line, and supply ready to defense at any moment. Not have to rely on shipment of weapons during war time.
Russia wanna revive Great Soviet union, so she will help us to produce modern weapons to expand the communist influence to all over ASEAN regions :pop:

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I doubted Vietnam can produce complex weaponry maybe just assembly line, and supply ready to defense at any moment. Not have to rely on shipment of weapons during war time.
Putin clearly says he wants to see Vietnam more to produce (advanced) weapons systems under supervision and license of Russia.

"Cooperation in the military-technical area is qualitatively taking a new shape. This is not only exports, as Vietnam with the participation of Russian companies is establishing licensed production of advanced military equipment," Putin said.

Putin conquers Vietnam - English pravda.ru
 
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Russia wanna revive Great Soviet union, so she will help us to produce modern weapons to expand the communist influence to all over ASEAN regions :pop:

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sorry we still don't wanna your red flavour
 
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sorry we still don't wanna your red flavour
why bother commenting what he says? let's just focus on the topic.


Putin clearly says he wants to see Vietnam more to produce (advanced) weapons systems under supervision and license of Russia.

"Cooperation in the military-technical area is qualitatively taking a new shape. This is not only exports, as Vietnam with the participation of Russian companies is establishing licensed production of advanced military equipment," Putin said.

I second Minjitta, assembly line is much more possible for production of military equipment built under license. The main parts like engine and electronics will still be provided and sent by and from Russia, like India with its Migs. And those all will be assemblied in Vietnam, there are also possibilities that the fuselage will also be manufactured in Vietnam.
 
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why bother commenting what he says? let's just focus on the topic.




I second Minjitta, assembly line is much more possible for production of military equipment built under license. The main parts like engine and electronics will still be provided and sent by and from Russia, like India with its Migs. And those all will be assemblied in Vietnam, there are also possibilities that the fuselage will also be manufactured in Vietnam.
Yeap that will be the first step, you can run when you don't know how to walk. It definitely a good step for Vietnam, military wise headed the right direction.
 
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why bother commenting what he says? let's just focus on the topic.




I second Minjitta, assembly line is much more possible for production of military equipment built under license. The main parts like engine and electronics will still be provided and sent by and from Russia, like India with its Migs. And those all will be assemblied in Vietnam, there are also possibilities that the fuselage will also be manufactured in Vietnam.
yeah ...I have a wish list for the production, here is it:
  • supersonic antiship missiles (Yakhon)
  • frigates (Gepard)
  • submarines (Kilo)
  • jets (SU-30MK)
 
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yeah ...I have a wish list for the production, here is it:
  • supersonic antiship missiles (Yakhon)
  • frigates (Gepard)
  • submarines (Kilo)
  • jets (SU-30MK)
good, Vietnam has maintained a good relationship with Russia. If Vietnamese local industries are eager to support to manufacturing of those weapons, Vietnam will be the second country after India that will be producing Russian-licensed weaponries outside its traditional slavic countries in eastern Europe.
 
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good, Vietnam has maintained a good relationship with Russia. If Vietnamese local industries are eager to support to manufacturing of those weapons, Vietnam will be the second country after India that will be producing Russian-licensed weaponries outside its traditional slavic countries in eastern Europe.
Actually very litle is known at this stage of what advanced weapons Vietnam will produce? I guess things will need to be worked out. We may hear more in some few months.

One thing is weird: Petrovietnam won the bizarre right to explore for resources in the Pechora Sea in the Russian Arctic, as Russia rarely allows foreign firms such access.

I believe Putin loves Vietnam. He sees Vietnam as a close friend. It is more than about money, weapons and business.

Before he departed for Vietnam, Putin wrote, "Russian-Vietnamese friendship has stood the test of time, having lived through the numerous tragic events of the 20th century and drastic changes in the world as well as in our countries."
 
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Actually very litle is known at this stage of what advanced weapons Vietnam will produce? I guess things will need to be worked out. We may hear more in some few months.

One thing is weird: Petrovietnam won the bizarre right to explore for resources in the Pechora Sea in the Russian Arctic, as Russia rarely allows foreign firms such access.

I believe Putin loves Vietnam. He sees Vietnam as a close friend. It is more than about money, weapons and business.

Before he departed for Vietnam, Putin wrote, "Russian-Vietnamese friendship has stood the test of time, having lived through the numerous tragic events of the 20th century and drastic changes in the world as well as in our countries."
I don't think it up to President Putin, but he does have to agree. I think the trustworthy that Vietnam and Russia had long time ago. Trust can't be build overnight, who else the Russia have long relationship and truthful in Asia? Some with long relationship but the trust are not there.
This really going to help Vietnam in military technology and economic wise. Russia will have her hand on Southeast Asia to keep balance in the region. This will be very handy to Asia as peace to the region when USA fade out of Asia due to US economy fall out.
 
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sorry we still don't wanna your red flavour
nufix said:
why bother commenting what he says? let's just focus on the topic.
But there is Nothing wrong with communist ideal. the Communist Society – was a free association of completely free men, where no separation between ‘private and common interest’ existed: a society where ‘everyone could give himself a complete education in whatever domain he fancied’

U guys dont like tobe a free man living in freedom ?? u wanna be slave of China-US or ur corrupted leader ??
 
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This really going to help Vietnam in military technology and economic wise. Russia will have her hand on Southeast Asia to keep balance in the region. This will be very handy to Asia as peace to the region when USA fade out of Asia due to US economy fall out.
Time to expand our power in Asia like in 1979, not time to keep balance, China is too weak and coward, she is not deserve as our worthy opponent :pop:
 
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