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[cnleio]

since when is Russia your ally?

can you show me the China-Russia treaty?

1. China and Russia they r founders of SCO.
2. Almost each year both hold joint military drills, both Army & Navy together in both lands and sea.
3. Both hold joint anti-terrorist drills in the Central Asia.
4. Both share weapon develop techs.
5. China is Russian 1st biggest oil buyer, and 1st biggest trader partner for Russia.
6. Both have the same interest in many international and U.N affairs.
7. Both face the same threat from the other side of the earth.
8. Russia government support China claims in SCS dispute, not with Vietnam.

True, we tend to copy goodies of China. Our next acquisition would be aircraft carriers, nuclear submarines with ballistic missiles.

Sounds nice ... pls don't copy China, first try copying Su-30mk2 u need that for u lost.

by the way, I hope you have enough minesweepers in service, once we begin to lay out mines, protecting our islands, potentially bringing the entire commercial shipping in the SC sea to a standstill. As the biggest trader, you certainly know what that means for you.

we have 8 minesweepers in service. Old but still ok.

Again, SEA MINES defeat China and PLAN ... China as Vietnam's neighbor, the biggest trader in the world also world n.o2 military expenditure country, China had 2nd achievement.

 

[Carlosa]

Well i LOVE when a military thread turn political by people who dont have remotely enough information about what is going on around the world or the history of a country yet boldly made many conclusions. Since certain people cant read and probably having a hard time on Google, i will give you some interesting information:

1/ "Baseless", "limited" ? Well the guy said that surely dont know anything about "Democracy" in the world except on books and pure theory. Let me list a few notable examples about what happen to "democracy" in the past. Do remember that i dont claim all democracy will be like this:

_ South Vietnam: A "certified" democracy by US standards. Now let google Ngo Dinh Diem assassination or coup and election frauds in South Vietnam. Feel free to read English sources and see what happen to that "democracy". Democracy like communism in a sense that if people act precisely and exactly like what on the theory, things will surely better, they both have a tight procedure and structure to follow. But as the VN old slogan :'Làm theo năng lực, hưởng theo nhu cầu" or "Do what you can, earn what you want" that fail miserably, democracy in Vietnam was and will face the same destruction. People care little about the country benefit, only about themselves. In just 5 years from 1960 to 1965 there are numerous coup attempts and assassination. The election frauds and corruptions are rampaging. Are there anyone got punished by the constitution? A few............if you lose that is. Guess the people at this time will do MUCH better eh ?

_South Korea: Another "certified" democracy by US standards. Nowadays the country is fine and prosperous because the people see the COUNTRY benefits first. Before that, things were much more difficult. I guess we all know the name of Park Chung Hee and Chun Doo hwan. These are generals that utilize the political instability to become president. While i do see many advantage they bring to the country, they are famous for many thing else. And for people that thought constitution will always fair and square, Yushin constitution will be a damn nice example. And what happen to them ? Chun Doo Hwan nearly kill a future SK president, embezzle state fund and what ? "A president pardon" and he got out easily.

_United States: Here we are, the biggest democracy in the world. I dont see any TRANSPARENCY anywhere. 2003 Iraq invasion, where is the god damn WMD ? The newspaper that cover the war sunk the issue down like nothing. 2011 Libya bombing, i mean for what ? "Free the people and bring them happiness" ? Now surely Libyan is in a state of "extreme happiness". And of course let talk about Richard Nixon with the famous Watergate scandal, what happen to him ? Jail time ? nope. "A president pardon" and there he goes out happy and fine. Well i guess being a president do help you a lot. Immunity were given out like fall leaves. Other people involved in such a massive scandal and surely unconstitutional event under orders by an active President never spend more than 3 years in jail............Well the biggest Democracy in the work "work out" very good eh ? Such "good and precise" punishment for Richard Nixon and his cliche, right ? "Challenge it and you will be punished" my butt. And you talk about the Second Amendments, you call its a tool for people to keep the government in check, i call it a cause for uncontrollable mass shootings and murders. Pick the one you like

2/ For the person that are NOT from Vietnam, here are also good stuff for you:

_ Dis i say we achieve stability right after 1975 ? i only say we have it NOW after LONG time. Dont put your "assumed" words into my mouth. And about the naming of the city. Ho Chi Minh is our leader in our war of revolution since the France time. People that serve the France and then the American against him were TRAITORS. You dont colonize a country, cut it in half and when someone achieved victory, re - unite the country and made changes, you claim that is wrong ? A location name can easily change a dozen times, why do we have to play by someone else preference ? I guess Washington D.C that is named after George Washington better change back to something like "State of Potomac" ? HISTORICALLY correct right ?

If this too hard to stomach for you, check this: Mount Rushmore. This is the place taken by American after the American - Indian war. Now in the 1927 after all the Indian got throw into the conservation, the first four presidents of the United States faces are carved into the mountain. Sound fair to the Indian ? Oh lets use your own word instead : "A political gestures to show that the Indian has lost their land, we own you now and here we will carve our founding presidents into the mountain to mark the occasion".

Purge and concentration camps. Well after the American Revolution and then the Civil war, things have to done about the American Royalist and the South States. Much have nothing against the new regime but there are people seeking the old ways. That when stuff go bad. In Vietnam, its the same. Printing counterfeit, mounting arms resistance, sabotaging key facilities, etc. What is your suggestion to stop it ? Sit by and wait till it happen more and more on a wider scale ? We did what it take, there are controversial mistakes and grave errors were makes but we try our best to made up for those people.

Foe conclusion, i did see many good qualities of democracy. but i also know that its can only be exploited by people with high cultural standards. If people only care about their own benefits, democracy will bring nothing but extra problems. Greek government now struggle to survive due to many presidents post - retirements care programs that strain the nation budgets. And that is only if we dont kill ourselves first and do China a big favor. Have fun hoping that our people can refine the thing instead of smashing it down and turn the country into a mass exodus that is happen on plenty of countries now.

II just want to make a simple observation.

Democracy as a representative form of government, gets applied in different ways in different countries. In some countries is relatively well done and it fulfills its purpose and mission as a way to represent the people. Some countries have the right type of culture for democracy, some don't.

In ancient Greece democracy was truly representative; in modern times it varies a lot.

In USA democracy has been totally taken over and corrupted by money. Yes, people elect their leaders in a democratic way and can also expel them in the same way, but those elected, for the most part, serve the interests of big business, not the interest of the people. Even money contributions to Senators, congressmen, candidates, etc has been legally considered as "a form of free speech" in USA, thats nothing less than legalized corruption.

In ancient Greece practicing democracy was very straight forward, people went to the Agora (the central marketplace) and took care of business, yes to this, no to that, simple and functional. Modern life its a bit more complicated, can't do things so directly, there are many mechanisms in the middle of the process. The media for example, but who controls the media? Many people form their opinions from the media and in most of the western world the media is controlled by powerful business interests that have a political leaning.

As an example, western media demonizes Russia and Putin, they are selective as what to publish, they distort the information and they follow the political narrative of the US government. The CIA has a very active program of control of the media, they give money to publication editors in order to control the narrative. Controlling the narrative is one of the many elements in the making of color revolutions, something that the US is very good at doing. All of this is just another form of corruption.

Marx, Lenin and Trotsky had many good ideas for the most part, but they failed in implementation and all those countries that became communist or socialist, with no exception ended up having institutionalized corruption. That's how it is when one side has full power and no accountability, such is the human condition.

And to those that say that Vietnam is a socialist country, yeah, sure. In Danang, where I live, all the people that were living in the beach or near the beach were relocated getting paid less than market value for their properties (in one case, one of those relocated people went to the city people's government and put himself on fire in front of the building as a protest for his relocation since he was not given enough money to buy a new place). Most of the beach areas were given to resorts and golf courses and to add insult to injury, those people that were relocated, got cut off from the beach and have to travel a few km to get to the beach because those beach areas given to the resorts are kilometers long and continuos. They didn't even bother to leave some areas for the people here and there. The public part of the beach is crowded during summer. Danang has 1 million people now, but plans to increase to 3 million. Where is the public beach going to be for 3 million people? In capitalist western Europe you can't build within 100 meters of the beach in order to preserve the beach for the public.

In Vietnam, money talks.

 

[vtnsx]

Well i guess in the end, coward will always be coward. Very loud mound but cant get a tiny piece of reality. Dont even have the gut to argue about the reality with many striking examples but no, he still think he got "fact and data" :v. I probably need to go reside in United States in order to get a new "insight" on what type "democracy wet dream theory" he is having.

Pass out on that. Here is C2A Greyhound that is currently in Da Nang for the US ambassador Ted visiting the carrier fleet . Specialized 2 engine cargo plane for carrier operation. Work out great on short runway.

AQ, your English and reading comprehension is at a level of a child. I don't need to continue to argue with you. You will never get it. You don't even know the difference between reality and theory. You are an emotional child and whine more than a baby. Anyways, if you have a problem with me then reply to my comment directly. In fact, I don't need to continue this conversation with you because you have a difficult time comprehending and writting English. Because of that, you will never get it. Get back to me again when you can. Otherwise, don't waste my time.

 

[Aqsuperman]

AQ, your English and reading comprehension is at a level of a child. I don't need to continue to argue with you. You will never get it. You don't even know the difference between reality and theory. You are an emotional child and whine more than a baby. Anyways, if you have a problem with me then reply to my comment directly. In fact, I don't need to continue this conversation with you because you have a difficult time comprehending and writting English. Because of that, you will never get it. Get back to me again when you can. Otherwise, don't waste my time.

Oh thank god that im on break days now. Nice to see you still have some rotten gut in there.But if you that brave, why not quote my previous examples post ? Dare to put out a few words to comment about what i said in that post ?

I think you are just a PATHETIC excuse of a human being that turn to personal insults and diverting the subject to my "English Comprehension" as soon as things turn against you. Typical forum coward and jerk when someone is actually more informed in the world affairs than his "papers and theory" wet dream.

"Reality and Theory ?" Have you even read my previous post with all the examples about South Vietnam, South Korea and even United States with all those "Democracy" ? You are having a hard time reading them ? You dont see enough "reality" in it ? Or maybe you dont know crap about them. You dont even know who the hell are Chun Doo Hwan and Richard Nixon or what is Yushin Constitution. Oh way maybe its because my "English Comprehension" right ? Quite sure Carlosa get what i mean though. We are having a Grammar Checking contest here or a thread ? Or maybe someone is stuck in a "democracy wet dream theory" then fail to get out and SEE the PAST or even right NOW.

"Fact and data" ? "Baseless and Limited" ? THOSE WORDS ARE FOR YOU, TROLL. Dont know something then google it. Taste some REAL Democracy in your mouth first instead of that useless "Constitution and Transparency" before trying to "wipe out" this government because your level of knowledge about the REAL outside world is like a zoo - bred animals : Clueless and Crappy.

II just want to make a simple observation.

Democracy as a representative form of government, gets applied in different ways in different countries. In some countries is relatively well done and it fulfills its purpose and mission as a way to represent the people. Some countries have the right type of culture for democracy, some don't.

In ancient Greece democracy was truly representative; in modern times it varies a lot.

In USA democracy has been totally taken over and corrupted by money. Yes, people elect their leaders in a democratic way and can also expel them in the same way, but those elected, for the most part, serve the interests of big business, not the interest of the people. Even money contributions to Senators, congressmen, candidates, etc has been legally considered as "a form of free speech" in USA, thats nothing less than legalized corruption.

In ancient Greece practicing democracy was very straight forward, people went to the Agora (the central marketplace) and took care of business, yes to this, no to that, simple and functional. Modern life its a bit more complicated, can't do things so directly, there are many mechanisms in the middle of the process. The media for example, but who controls the media? Many people form their opinions from the media and in most of the western world the media is controlled by powerful business interests that have a political leaning.

As an example, western media demonizes Russia and Putin, they are selective as what to publish, they distort the information and they follow the political narrative of the US government. The CIA has a very active program of control of the media, they give money to publication editors in order to control the narrative. Controlling the narrative is one of the many elements in the making of color revolutions, something that the US is very good at doing. All of this is just another form of corruption.

Marx, Lenin and Trotsky had many good ideas for the most part, but they failed in implementation and all those countries that became communist or socialist, with no exception ended up having institutionalized corruption. That's how it is when one side has full power and no accountability, such is the human condition.

And to those that say that Vietnam is a socialist country, yeah, sure. In Danang, where I live, all the people that were living in the beach or near the beach were relocated getting paid less than market value for their properties (in one case, one of those relocated people went to the city people's government and put himself on fire in front of the building as a protest for his relocation since he was not given enough money to buy a new place). Most of the beach areas were given to resorts and golf courses and to add insult to injury, those people that were relocated, got cut off from the beach and have to travel a few km to get to the beach because those beach areas given to the resorts are kilometers long and continuos. They didn't even bother to leave some areas for the people here and there. The public part of the beach is crowded during summer. Danang has 1 million people now, but plans to increase to 3 million. Where is the public beach going to be for 3 million people? In capitalist western Europe you can't build within 100 meters of the beach in order to preserve the beach for the public.

In Vietnam, money talks.

As in anywhere money and power are everything. Our government is far from perfect, full of flaws and lack efficiency. But i always like the idea to fix them from the inside instead of adventuring to the unknowns. In the last 20 years, we have never experience terrorist incidents, coups, wars, etc. Though we do have some considerable unrest sometime but if that is not achievement, what is ? Economic is slowly advance. Corruption and abuse of power are also a major headache nowadays.

But everything go hand in hand. Although a imperfect place, stability is what we have now. Wipe out a government in hope that the new regime will be better with the people current cultural standards is the idea of a moron. When the standards go up, sure lets find a way to change but right now ? Like hell as its going to work with many failed examples around .


Paratrooper training

 

[vtnsx]

Oh thank god that im on break days now. Nice to see you still have some rotten gut in there.But if you that brave, why not quote my previous examples post ? Dare to put out a few words to comment about what i said in that post ?

I think you are just a PATHETIC excuse of a human being that turn to personal insults and diverting the subject to my "English Comprehension" as soon as things turn against you. Typical forum coward and jerk when someone is actually more informed in the world affairs than his "papers and theory" wet dream.

"Reality and Theory ?" Have you even read my previous post with all the examples about South Vietnam, South Korea and even United States with all those "Democracy" ? You are having a hard time reading them ? You dont see enough "reality" in it ? Or maybe you dont know crap about them. You dont even know who the hell are Chun Doo Hwan and Richard Nixon or what is Yushin Constitution. Oh way maybe its because my "English Comprehension" right ? Quite sure Carlosa get what i mean though. We are having a Grammar Checking contest here or a thread ? Or maybe someone is stuck in a "democracy wet dream theory" then fail to get out and SEE the PAST or even right NOW.

"Fact and data" ? "Baseless and Limited" ? THOSE WORDS ARE FOR YOU, TROLL. Dont know something then google it. Taste some REAL Democracy in your mouth first instead of that useless "Constitution and Transparency" before trying to "wipe out" this government because your level of knowledge about the REAL outside world is like a zoo - bred animals : Clueless and Crappy.



As in anywhere money and power are everything. Our government is far from perfect, full of flaws and lack efficiency. But i always like the idea to fix them from the inside instead of adventuring to the unknowns. In the last 20 years, we have never experience terrorist incidents, coups, wars, etc. Though we do have some considerable unrest sometime but if that is not achievement, what is ? Economic is slowly advance. Corruption and abuse of power are also a major headache nowadays.

But everything go hand in hand. Although a imperfect place, stability is what we have now. Wipe out a government in hope that the new regime will be better with the people current cultural standards is the idea of a moron. When the standards go up, sure lets find a way to change but right now ? Like hell as its going to work with many failed examples around .


Paratrooper training

"I think you are just a PATHETIC excuse of a human being that turn to personal insults and diverting the subject to my "English Comprehension" as soon as things turn against you. Typical forum coward and jerk when someone is actually more informed in the world affairs than his "papers and theory" wet dream."

How is it an insult when it is a fact that you know nothing about Democracy? You read everything online and in the books about Democracy. What exactly do you even know about it? Lol, you're telling me that I know nothing when I live in a Democratic country for more than two decades. This is why I don't need to listen to your rant/garbage. All it is are garbage from your emotional childish logic mind. Yes, your English reading comprehension limits your understanding of what I was trying to tell you about VCP. Add to your problem is your emotional childish logic. You're bashing at me and Carlosa for standing up to CRITICISM.

You're really confused, AQ. What do you really know about what is going on within the US, Canada, South Korea, Japan, UK, etc? Didn't I just told you that every Democratic countries operate differently? I guess you didn't read my comments above. Anyways, I didn't bother to read your rant because you really don't know much about Democracy. So by reading your comment is just a waste of my time. Just shut up and post something useful in this forum. Thank you.

 

[Aqsuperman]

"I think you are just a PATHETIC excuse of a human being that turn to personal insults and diverting the subject to my "English Comprehension" as soon as things turn against you. Typical forum coward and jerk when someone is actually more informed in the world affairs than his "papers and theory" wet dream."

How is it an insult when it is a fact that you know nothing about Democracy? You read everything online and in the books about Democracy. What exactly do you even know about it? Lol, you're telling me that I know nothing when I live in a Democratic country for more than two decades. This is why I don't need to listen to your rant/garbage. All it is are garbage from your emotional childish logic mind. Yes, your English reading comprehension limits your understanding of what I was trying to tell you about VCP. Add to your problem is your emotional childish logic. You're bashing at me and Carlosa for standing up to CRITICISM.

You're really confused, AQ. What do you really know about what is going on within the US, Canada, South Korea, Japan, UK, etc? Didn't I just told you that every Democratic countries operate differently? I guess you didn't read my comments above. Anyways, I didn't bother to read your rant because you really don't know much about Democracy. So by reading your comment is just a waste of my time. Just shut up and post something useful in this forum. Thank you.

LOL i never bash at Carlosa. You are trying hard to get him over your side, eh? He has a point and put a good use of his input into the thread. You ? You babbling several posts about "wiping the government", how democracy work and that democracy theory are applied CORRECTLY everywhere and that will do good to Vietnam too. But when i point out many examples prove otherwise in many countries democracy which is not just simply different types of operating but its completely go against the very idea that you are babbling about democracy. Therefore the people cultural standard is the deciding factor. But then you insult me and call me ranting, a troll and emotional child ? Those are proven case and have plenty of English sources around, if those are not real then what can be real ? Dont give respect and like hell you are going to receive one.

And aren't you a adorable coward that loves to insults other then pick an easy, gutless and womanly way to get out of an argument ? You talk something then people argue about it, you say "Hey that is a child knowledge, i have more democracy experiences than you so i dont have to read anything, end of the discussion". Yeah that kind of reaction is totally a good example of 20 years of democracy experiences right ? just tell people that his logic and examples are invalid to my GREAT democracy wet dream theory. Two decades and that is the best reply you can come up with ?


In essence let put it like this , maybe if you keep the pipe hole which you called a mouth firmly SHUT and make sure all the trashy democracy wet dream theory plus your retarded idea about wiping the government are only for yourself then i will continue with the usual. You think that you can post everything you want and then when people talk back, you just tell the guy to shut up and "post something useful" ? In Vietnamese we have a nice sentence for this situation: "Chú nghĩ chú là cái thá gì ?" or "Who the hell do you think are ?" If i post something offensive to the thread then the mod can ban me. Other than that, you can do crap about HOW i act.

Testing Galil rifle

 

[vtnsx]

LOL i never bash at Carlosa. You are trying hard to get him over your side, eh? He has a point and put a good use of his input into the thread. You ? You babbling several posts about "wiping the government", how democracy work and that democracy theory are applied CORRECTLY everywhere and that will do good to Vietnam too. But when i point out many examples prove otherwise in many countries democracy which is not just simply different types of operating but its completely go against the very idea that you are babbling about democracy. Therefore the people cultural standard is the deciding factor. But then you insult me and call me ranting, a troll and emotional child ? Those are proven case and have plenty of English sources around, if those are not real then what can be real ? Dont give respect and like hell you are going to receive one.

And aren't you a adorable coward that loves to insults other then pick an easy, gutless and womanly way to get out of an argument ? You talk something then people argue about it, you say "Hey that is a child knowledge, i have more democracy experiences than you so i dont have to read anything, end of the discussion". Yeah that kind of reaction is totally a good example of 20 years of democracy experiences right ? just tell people that his logic and examples are invalid to my GREAT democracy wet dream theory. Two decades and that is the best reply you can come up with ?


In essence let put it like this , maybe if you keep the pipe hole which you called a mouth firmly SHUT and make sure all the trashy democracy wet dream theory plus your retarded idea about wiping the government are only for yourself then i will continue with the usual. You think that you can post everything you want and then when people talk back, you just tell the guy to shut up and "post something useful" ? In Vietnamese we have a nice sentence for this situation: "Chú nghĩ chú là cái thá gì ?" or "Who the hell do you think are ?" If i post something offensive to the thread then the mod can ban me. Other than that, you can do crap about HOW i act.

Testing Galil rifle

Lol, can you write me an essay?
Take it easy, AQ. You are in a tandrum.

I'm not even trying. I think you are. Anyways, as I mentioned before. I don't want to read your emotional childish rant. You can keep writing to me. But as I said before, you are just wasting your time and my time. Now, just shut up and move on, please. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

 

[Viet]

1. China and Russia they r founders of SCO.
2. Almost each year both hold joint military drills, both Army & Navy together in both lands and sea.
3. Both hold joint anti-terrorist drills in the Central Asia.
4. Both share weapon develop techs.
5. China is Russian 1st biggest oil buyer, and 1st biggest trader partner for Russia.
6. Both have the same interest in many international and U.N affairs.
7. Both face the same threat from the other side of the earth.
8. Russia government support China claims in SCS dispute, not with Vietnam.



Sounds nice ... pls don't copy China, first try copying Su-30mk2 u need that for u lost.



Again, SEA MINES defeat China and PLAN ... China as Vietnam's neighbor, the biggest trader in the world also world n.o2 military expenditure country, China had 2nd achievement.

you forget SCO is merely a loose organisation, an informal circle, not a military alliance.

NATO is a military alliance. America has multiple defence pacts, such as with Japan, South Korea and Philippines.

do you have any military alliance at all?

not with Pakistan. it is just your security partner. good as a tool against India.

not with North Korea. you dump the Kim dynasty.

Holding talks, joining anti-terrorist drills, buying resources, developing this and that with Russians does not make you to a military brother of Russia. or do you want to say, if Russia and America are at war, you will support Russia and attack the US?

as for the mess in the South China sea, yes, the Russians changed their stance a bit favouring China. but it is a half hearted support. yes, the Russians oppose international arbitration. end of the story. the Russians never say South China sea is yours, or other bullshit claims such as, your claim bases upon history. all lies. I bet you bribe them with money. I just wonder how much.

yes, we are not happy after hearing the new russia stance. our Army chief General Ngo Xuan Lich went to Moskow, visiting his counterpart Russian Minister of Defence General Sergey Shoigu, asking for explanation.

 

[Aqsuperman]

Lol, can you write me an essay?
Take it easy, AQ. You are in a tandrum.

I'm not even trying. I think you are. Anyways, as I mentioned before. I don't want to read your emotional childish rant. You can keep writing to me. But as I said before, you are just wasting your time and my time. Now, just shut up and move on, please. Why is it so hard for you to understand?

Lol can you show some guts first ? First you want me to reply to you directly then now you chicken out ? If you bring up a topic then prepare to face counter arguments. You are not trying to argue, you are trying to divert the current subject of the thread with your tail between your legs. After all that insult and blabbing i guess that fit you imagine the most eh ? Well keep playing that "Im old and experienced" crap and hope everyone bite it, to me i think you sound more like a woman than a man.

Sure i will move on. But do remember to keep all those trashy ideas and wet dream theory to yourself. Or better, shut the hell up completely and "post something useful". And dont talk a bout person intention in his absent.If i dont happen to show up, you will babbling half a mile to the forum about how i "mysteriously" require a apology from everyone and the "greatness" of democracy in Vietnam with the current level of citizen standards. Dont want to hear a "childish rant" anymore ? Then learn to wear a pant instead of a skirt in this forum .PEACE. OUT

A line of M101 howitzers. Veteran and rugged. A primary tactical fire support to the VPA and currently under a modernize project to increase mobility. Still quite short range though

 

[Viet]

Welcome to Vietnam!

a Japanese landing vessel, together with two hospital ships, one from America, one from Vietnam, will stage Pacific Partnership 2016 mission in the waters of Da Nang city from July 15 - 28.


Japanese landing vessel "JDS Shimokita"

US Hospital ship "USNS Mercy"

Vietnam hospital ship "Khanh Hoa 01"

 

[vtnsx]

Lol can you show some guts first ? First you want me to reply to you directly then now you chicken out ? If you bring up a topic then prepare to face counter arguments. You are not trying to argue, you are trying to divert the current subject of the thread with your tail between your legs. After all that insult and blabbing i guess that fit you imagine the most eh ? Well keep playing that "Im old and experienced" crap and hope everyone bite it, to me i think you sound more like a woman than a man.

Sure i will move on. But do remember to keep all those trashy ideas and wet dream theory to yourself. Or better, shut the hell up completely and "post something useful". And dont talk a bout person intention in his absent.If i dont happen to show up, you will babbling half a mile to the forum about how i "mysteriously" require a apology from everyone and the "greatness" of democracy in Vietnam with the current level of citizen standards. Dont want to hear a "childish rant" anymore ? Then learn to wear a pant instead of a skirt in this forum .PEACE. OUT

A line of M101 howitzers. Veteran and rugged. A primary tactical fire support to the VPA and currently under a modernize project to increase mobility. Still quite short range though

"Sure i will move on"

Good boy. If you want to argue, go to the street market of Vietnam and argue with the ladies there. You will fit in perfectly in that area. You sound just like them. Otherwise, I don't want to hear your garbage childish rant.

But you're starting to understand Democracy.

 

[Aqsuperman]

"Sure i will move on"

Good boy. If you want to argue, go to the street market of Vietnam and argue with the ladies there. You will fit in perfectly in that area. You sound just like them.

Why do i have to go to the market when i can find the same type of person here ?

HQ 521. A self - produced landing ship. Comparable to the old LST ships in service.

 

[vtnsx]

Why do i have to go to the market when i can find the same type of person here ?

HQ 521. A self - produced landing ship. Comparable to the old LST ships in service.

lol, the only person here is just you. No one is like you. Trust me on that. Don't be a naive child.

And please, do us a favor and stop posting garbage news like this. It's not even news ffs.

 

[Viet]

lol, the only person here is just you. No one is like you. Trust me on that. Don't be a naive child.

And please, do us a favor and stop posting garbage news like this. It's not even news ffs.

bro it may be time to calm down a bit. every news that shows progress of the Vietnam People Army is worth to post. I do it here all the times. Not nice at all saying 'garbage' to Vietnam made weapons. Everyone needs to start somewhere.

Manufactured by domestic defence company Z125, recruits are trained on anti-tank recoilless gun SPG-9 calibre 73 mm. max range 1,300 m.

 

[Carlosa]

The new generation of Vietnam’s artillery forces

TUOI TRE NEWS

UPDATED : 07/15/2016

Following in the footsteps of veterans, new recruits to Vietnam’s artillery unit are quickly becoming accustomed to the relentless training needed to achieve the specialized skills and elite combat readiness their older counterparts were known for.

A typical day for the 434 Artillery Brigade, under the Vietnam People’s Army, begins at 7:00 am when soldiers gather on the exercise field, shovels in hand.

After the soldiers are assembled, Captain Nguyen Duy Cuong’s loud and assertive voice begins commands, instructing troops to start the exercise by digging holes and readying their weapons.

“The holes are filled with firewood that will cushion the recoil from the cannon as it fires,” the instructor elaborated.

According to Cuong, members of the brigade are specialized in three types of artillery - the 130 millimeter gun, the 105 millimeter howitzer, and the multiple rocket launcher BM-21.

Wiping his sweat during break time, Sau Sau Phuoc Hiep, a 22-year-old soldier from District 5, Ho Chi Minh City, said that he has been in the military for five months.

“I was equipped with basic knowledge and tactical skills in the first three months before beginning specialized artillery training a month and a half ago,” Hiep recalled.

All of the cannons appeared terrifying at first, the soldier said, adding that his fear was soon replaced by excitement and curiosity about their operation.

“I consider myself lucky to be able to learn about and interact with this type of weaponry,” Hiep said.

A bit homesick

Private Ho Van Minh Tieng, 21, from the southern province of Ben Tre, shared some insight into his life as a military rookie during a brief interview with Tuoi Tre (Youth) newspaper.

“Things were difficult at first and the lifestyle was so unfamiliar, but we have grown to be brothers. Whenever I feel homesick, my comrades are always there to cheer me up,” Tieng said.

Expressing a similar opinion, Hiep stated that it took him over a month to start adapting to the new environment, adding that the longest he had ever been away from home was just a few days.

“I joined the army when I was a senior majoring in hospitality services. I packed my bags and left as soon as I got the notice. My family was furious,” Hiep joked as he recounted.

From a playful and humorous student, Hiep has matured throughout his short army life.

“You have to work and study from early morning until bedtime. There is no time to feel homesick, which is a good thing,” the soldier stated, adding that he has lost almost 13 kilograms since joining.

It is common for troops to miss their homes during their first days, said Captain Thai Quoc Dung, the political commissar of the unit and a veteran at guiding new recruits.

“I sometimes catch them crying over their parents or lovers,” Dung continued.

Aside from their busy schedule, the encouragement from their commanders helps the recruits adapt to a new lifestyle.

The troops have learned to take care of themselves and bond with each other as they practice, clean the cannons, and participate in sports and other artistic activities, Dung stated.