Vietnam Defence Forum

[Viet]

New fast patrol boats for the Coast Guard

manufactured by James Boat Vietnam. 12 vessels, MS-50S class, ultra light, Polypropylene carbonate (PPC) hull, length 13.63m; wide 3.55m; 2x300HP Volvo engines, top speed 35 knots. can host a crew of 16.

 

[Viet]

The Coast Guard now has a hymne, composed by Nguyễn Mạnh Hùng, "making the waves"

 

[Viet]

copolymer polypropylene (PPC) James Boat Vietnam is using seem suitable for different other useful stuffs too. Time to step up construction activities on our islands in the SC Sea

images taken from the company website

simple bridge

Landing bridge

Leisure Boat

Fishing boats

 

[Viet]

Time to develop tourism at sea. who wants to cruise the South China Sea visiting sharks?

@Carlosa

 

[GS Zhou]

copolymer polypropylene (PPC) James Boat Vietnam is using seem suitable for different other useful stuffs too. Time to step up construction activities on our islands in the SC Sea

are you sure these toy-alike boats could be used in the construction activities in the South China Sea? Are you serious to this complicated/huge engineering challenge? You at least needs some professional ones like these.

 

[Viet]

are you sure these toy-alike boats could be used in the construction activities in the South China Sea? Are you serious to this complicated/huge engineering challenge? You at least needs some professional ones like these.

not too bad and impressive no question. if anything we can learn from our neighbour is shipbuilding. we are ways behind. though I believe we are not too bad, either. though we are much smaller. a new reopened Vietnam Damen Song Cam Shipyard, capable to build all sorts of 40 ships a year at the first phase. Dredgers are a specialty

Hopper Dredger

we can expect all sorts of dredgers are coming...

 

[Viet]

...while we are waiting for new dredgers, some old ones can do the job.

 

[GS Zhou]

...while we are waiting for new dredgers, some old ones can do the job.

nice. good to know that the Dutch Damen comes to Vietnam to build a new shipyard. I once heard that Damen has the plan to acquire Song Cam. Do you know how the deal goes? thanks

 

[Viet]

nice. good to know that the Dutch Damen comes to Vietnam to build a new shipyard. I once heard that Damen has the plan to acquire Song Cam. Do you know how the deal goes? thanks

the government okays to 70% Song Cam shares, which can be bought by Damen. though I have no idea when the deal will be closed. I think also it is a question how both sides value the company and if both sides agree to a price. Song Cam makes profit, and as exception to the loss making rest of Vinashin shipbuilding complex.

here nice boats for Venezuela coast guard

 

[Viet]

estimated 100,000 Vietnamese fought during the WW I on the side of the French. In the letters being sent home to their families the viet soldiers told stories of homesickness, cold weather and terrible food. These things are worse than the enemy on battlefields, notably the fearsome German army.

Arrival in Greece

Arrival in France

Not all survived on battlefields in Europe.

especially not after the bloody battle of the Somme (1916), when the combined French and British armies launched a great offensive against the Germans at the Somme to seek a decision. At the end of the battle, over one million soldiers were killed or wounded. Terrible bloodshed

 

[Carlosa]

A picture of the C-212 factory in Indonesia on 24/6 where 3 C-212 maritime patrol aircraft are being produced for Vietnam.

 

[MacanJawa]

estimated 100,000 Vietnamese fought during the WW I on the side of the French. In the letters being sent home to their families the viet soldiers told stories of homesickness, cold weather and terrible food. These things are worse than the enemy on battlefields, notably the fearsome German army.

Arrival in Greece

Arrival in France

Not all survived on battlefields in Europe.

especially not after the bloody battle of the Somme (1916), when the combined French and British armies launched a great offensive against the Germans at the Somme to seek a decision. At the end of the battle, over one million soldiers were killed or wounded. Terrible bloodshed

poor vietnamese fight for other people war

 

[Viet]

poor vietnamese fight for other people war

Not poor. Whatever motives they had, wanting to earn money or simply seeking adventure abroad, all were volunteers. Nobody should blame them. The French has a long tradition of employing foreigners in the army. the foreign legions.

But it is just a part of the story. Those Vietnamese, who survived when the war was over, were allowed to settle down in France or with money starting a new life in Vietnam. Some of them were later active joining the resistance against the French colonial government. It is an irony of history. The French decision to employ Vietnamese in the army was a huge mistake, contributing later to their total defeat in the last stand in the valley of Dien bien phu.

VN is a country with people capable to learn from the past mistakes.

 

[cochine]

poor vietnamese fight for other people war

to learn something about modern tactic, how to deal with whitemen in battle field. At last, we kicked them out from Vietnam

 

[William Hung]

@William Hung As per the article above:

According to the same sources, Airbus and ELTA could assist the country in integrating the new platform with the rest of the Vietnamese Armed Forces, including Russian-made ones. The number of the platforms to be acquired could probably be more than two, as the two could probably be not sufficient for the operational requirements.

The keywords are the ones just before what you highlighted, that is, “According to the same sources”. Those “sources” that the article is refering to are Vietnamese local media. Or more specifically, speculations from local VN media and journalists.

I myself don’t know the technical nuances in integrating western and Russian systems. Actually another American member here who probably knows bout it is @Sven... you can try tag and ask him the possibilities.

Personally, I very much doubt it is possible, not just because of technical, security or political issues, but because of business issues too. If Russia wants to pressure VN into buying Russian products rather than non-russian ones, then Russia can just simply refuse to assist VN in integrating the said products. Besides, the non-russian counter-parts will probably be in that same position as well, they also have their own business, political and security concerns when dealing with Russia.