Vietnam Defence Forum

[Nike]

Thanks.

There you go @Viet Now you look at that list and check how many of those things are being done by VN, that will give you an idea about the prospects.



2S3 Akatsiya, 152mm self-propelled gun. Produced in Russia from 1967 to 1993.



Alhumdulillah

the same can be said for our efforts to build warplanes like KFX/IFX projects, first Indonesian party must build fighter plane research design center in collaboration with South Korea, building new hanggar facility to assembled the prototype, encouraging more investment into planes spare parts production facilities and so far more than 20 local producer had commitment to joint the consortium, building new faculty in jet mechanics propulsion research and design at our universities, and so on.

 

[Carlosa]

the same can be said for our efforts to build warplanes like KFX/IFX projects, first Indonesian party must build fighter plane research design center in collaboration with South Korea, building new hanggar facility to assembled the prototype, encouraging more investment into planes spare parts production facilities and so far more than 20 local producer had commitment to joint the consortium, building new faculty in jet mechanics propulsion research and design at our universities, and so on.

Right, have to have a comprehensive, multi faceted approach that covers all the angles.
I don't see VN doing anything like that so far.

 

[Aqsuperman]

One of VN earliest tank, now in reserve or training and dug-in bunker

 

[BoQ77]

 

[Viet]

Its not just the shipyard, the steel used in submarines is special. Indonesia is doing it now under Korean license. You can ask @madokafc what they had to sep up to be able to build them.

I know I know...building submarines is an engineering feat, just gave my opinion to a report. we are still 1,000 miles away, but would be good if we make the first step.

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/science-it/152882/should-vietnam-build-military-submarines-.html

“Vietnam is quite capable of building military subs, though, like any other country, we will have to experience big difficulties,” said Hoang Hung, deputy chair and secretary general of the Vietnam Shipbuilding Science Association.

“It is wrong to say Vietnam should not ‘dream’ of building military subs,” he commented.

“In the past, Vietnamese once thought they would never be able to build hydropower plants. However, after building the Hoa Binh Hydropower Plant, we could build Song Da Plant which is a big one in the world,” he said, adding that Vietnam should not shrink back from difficulties, because even Russia, Poland and Germany also failed before their successes.

“No one could imagine that Vietnam would be able to make a drilling rig. Meanwhile, PV Shipyard has recently launched Tam Dao 05 jack-up with the total tonnage of 18,000 tons,” he said.


as for steel, alone, the first part of the giant Formosa Ha Tinh steel complex (at the cost of $28.5 billion) is due to start operation this June, with a combined capacity of 22.5 million tons of steel a year. that is more than enough to build 1,000 high rising buildings or 1,000 warships and submarines a year. well, we need special steel for the latter

Formosa Ha Tinh steel complex

 

[Viet]

I believe our chinese peaceful rise friends are not only the ones, that reclaim lands in the South China Sea, but I´m afraid our effort and result is tinny (120 acres) compared to that of China it has created over 3,000 acres in a short period of time.

what can we do to catch up?

- take a loan of AIIB?
- employ Chinese experts on island building?
- buying high quality dredging machines made in China?

any other suggestions?

 

[Viet]

 

[Aqsuperman]

You all know what is funny about all of this ? All the picture and details of Vietnam islands expansion always come from non-Vietnamese sources. Talking about being secret lol ? :v Still, this is quite something. Not really comparable to China efforts but much better than the rest of the competitor around there.

 

[Viet]

You all know what is funny about all of this ? All the picture and details of Vietnam islands expansion always come from non-Vietnamese sources. Talking about being secret lol ? :v Still, this is quite something. Not really comparable to China efforts but much better than the rest of the competitor around there.

well, today satellites can see everything on the earth surface. even recognising what food what you eat, what friend you invite to the garden party

back to the pictures, the most interesting pic of the collection is this: the runway of Spratly island (Sân bay Trường Sa). the only 800m (2,625 feet) long runway in the Spratly, currently capable for patrol aircraft to land and take off.

let consider this: a Su30 aircraft requires about 2,500 feet long runway, with the help of drag parachutes, assuming the aircraft carries normal fuel and load. so theoretically our Su30 bombers can land and take off. to take off, the plane needs less, about 1,500 ft of runway. from the image, I would guess, the runway is extended by 500m. 800m + 500m = 1,300m.

so it is safe to say, our Su30 bombers can land and take off with full load. the Airforce can station two interceptors on the island. just in case. protected by hardened shelter and aerial defence.

 

[Aqsuperman]

The weather out there is fairly brutal even with well-maintance policy. Establishing support facilities out there for fighters from inland to re-fuel and re-arm is good but to permanently station aircraft on the land is not really efficient.

 

[Viet]

Over 1,000 people to escort President Obama during Vietnam visit

Tuoi Tre News
Updated : 05/17/2016

United States President Barrack Obama (L) is accompanied by secret service agents after arriving at Tampa International Airport in Florida, the U.S.


More than 1,000 people are expected to accompany United States President Barrack Obama during his visit to Vietnam from May 23 to 25, according to a Tuoi Tre (Youth) newspaper source.


President Obama is slated to arrive on board Air Force One at Noi Bai International Airport and to visit Ho Chi Minh City the following day, before leaving for Japan on the last day of his visit.

The president’s visit to Vietnam is aimed at addressing various matters, including maritime disputes and human rights, the White House stated. The delegation includes officials and employees of the U.S. government, the president’s entourage, representatives of businesses, security officers, and secret service agents, the source added.

About six hotels in Vietnam are anticipated to be rented in order to accommodate the large group of visitors. According to the Tuoi Tre source, U.S. teams in charge of security and preparations for the upcoming trip of President Obama have arrived in the country to work with their Vietnamese counterparts.

This includes discussing proper ways to welcome the head of state, and transport him during his visit.

Three Boeing C-17 Globemaster III military transport aircraft have landed at Noi Bai International Airport in Hanoi so far, carrying tens of metric tons of equipment set to assist the arrival of the U.S. president. The most recent plane brought some 53 metric tons of such equipment to the capital’s airport, the source said.

“At least four more aircraft of the same type are scheduled to arrive at the international airport prior to the president’s visit to transfer all necessary items for his entire trip,” it added.

They will also carry the helicopter Marine One, the presidential state car, automobiles of other key officials of the delegation, special vehicles, ambulances, weapons for security and protection, and devices for communication.

According to Vietnam’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the U.S. president is to arrive in Vietnam for an official visit on the morning of May 23, instead of the night before as earlier announced.

 

[Viet]

a bit of history

What supports, weaponry had the Soviet Union provided to North Vietnam during the Vietnam war?

700 warplanes, 2,000 tanks, 7,000 artillery guns, over 5,000 anti-aircraft guns, 158 surface-to-air missile launchers. endless small arms weapons. about 10,000 members of the Soviet Red Army served as advisers in North Vietnam. In addition, Russian military schools and academies trained more than 10,000 Vietnamese military personnel. Just 13 Soviet citizens lost their lives in the entire conflict.

One of the dogfight tactics, which was used by North Vietnamese fightet pilots during the Vietnam war, was attacking US fighter jets in an ambush: a single MIG-21 fighter jet in camouflage painting, dark green color over natural metal, coming down from high altitude, rushed in when US fighter pilots were engaging other North Vietnamese aircraft.

Mig-21

F-4 Phantom

Mig-21 camouflage

 

[Viet]

but one secret weapon, the USSR Military Central Command refused to deliver to North Vietnam:

Soviet OSA class missile boats armed with highly accurate Styx antiship missile. the missile had the potential to wreck havoc on the US Navy. Moscow believed the Americans would become desperate, have resorted to nuclear strike on Vietnam had they lost one of their aircraft carriers.

 

[vtnsx]

Over 1,000 people to escort President Obama during Vietnam visit

Tuoi Tre News
Updated : 05/17/2016

United States President Barrack Obama (L) is accompanied by secret service agents after arriving at Tampa International Airport in Florida, the U.S.


More than 1,000 people are expected to accompany United States President Barrack Obama during his visit to Vietnam from May 23 to 25, according to a Tuoi Tre (Youth) newspaper source.


President Obama is slated to arrive on board Air Force One at Noi Bai International Airport and to visit Ho Chi Minh City the following day, before leaving for Japan on the last day of his visit.

The president’s visit to Vietnam is aimed at addressing various matters, including maritime disputes and human rights, the White House stated. The delegation includes officials and employees of the U.S. government, the president’s entourage, representatives of businesses, security officers, and secret service agents, the source added.

About six hotels in Vietnam are anticipated to be rented in order to accommodate the large group of visitors. According to the Tuoi Tre source, U.S. teams in charge of security and preparations for the upcoming trip of President Obama have arrived in the country to work with their Vietnamese counterparts.

This includes discussing proper ways to welcome the head of state, and transport him during his visit.

Three Boeing C-17 Globemaster III military transport aircraft have landed at Noi Bai International Airport in Hanoi so far, carrying tens of metric tons of equipment set to assist the arrival of the U.S. president. The most recent plane brought some 53 metric tons of such equipment to the capital’s airport, the source said.

“At least four more aircraft of the same type are scheduled to arrive at the international airport prior to the president’s visit to transfer all necessary items for his entire trip,” it added.

They will also carry the helicopter Marine One, the presidential state car, automobiles of other key officials of the delegation, special vehicles, ambulances, weapons for security and protection, and devices for communication.

According to Vietnam’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the U.S. president is to arrive in Vietnam for an official visit on the morning of May 23, instead of the night before as earlier announced.

Yo, why didn't they do this to Xi Jinping? Oh, right because he's just a number. LOL

 

[CCP]

Yo, why didn't they do this to Xi Jinping? Oh, right because he's just a number. LOL

I guess its because US killed more vietnamese than we did.