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Kilo Submarine #5: 186 Đà Nẵng on sea trail. to be delivered end of this year. sooner than expected.

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They are not going to finance anything. They themselve are fighting to increase or keep the budget to maintain their military. We just need them to lift the arms embargo, carry out joint-development that wont cost them anything but might even make them money since their companies would get paid. We can build the platform in VN.

For example, something like this Ambassador MK 3 FAC. Its similar to our Molniya but more modern with better air defence:

600 tons
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This Ezzat class FAC was designed and built by an American company for the Eqyptian navy. All we need is a joint-developmemt project with them for similar platforms and we can just build it at our domestic shipyard to save cost.
then get RIM-116 install on Molnya :dirol::dirol::dirol::dirol::dirol::dirol:
I think VN will make a FAC design of ours own
 
well i would like to see missile in those pod too............
Palma, equipped with small-size short-range anti-aircraft missiles (SAM), a gun-missile combined system currently installed on the Gepards, aiming to defeat enemy (sea skimming) anti-ship missiles. I think the missiles are stored and will be installed when the ship depards for patrol. but carlosa dislikes the system because it is too weak :(
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Currently our most modern and in sufficent quantity anti-ship weapon for ship-borne plafform , with the upraded range , executing a guerrilla tactics on the sea will be easier
 

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What is Russia´s standpoint or position on the mess in South China Sea?

it is not only this one interesting article from The Diplomat revealing how Moskow thinks and acts. In short, Russia remains neutral in the dispute between VN and CN, supporting neither side in order to avoid antagonizing a party. for Vietnam, most important, Russia is not willing to accept chinese claim and dominance in the SC Sea. Never.

In an interview with NewsAsia on August 5th, Russia Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov was asked if Russia supports China claims in the SC Sea? his answer is a diplomatic speech, one may read what he says and what he does not. in this statement I can´t find any wordings explicit supporting chinese claims. Least, chinese bla bla bla "accepting china historic facts". Thank you Russia!


Sergey Lavrov gives interview to NewsAsia (+ transcript!) | The Vineyard of the Saker

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Question: Given the situation the South China Sea with a certain amount of tension some political watchers would say that the joint military drills might indicate that China supports that Russia supports China’s territorial claims in the South China Sea. Does Russia support China claims in the South China Sea?


Lavrov: This, this political analysts should better study what our position is which is not secret, it is publicly presented. We are strongly in favor of any dispute in South China Sea, in the East China Sea in any sea for that matter to be, to be resolved on the basis of the international law including first the full 1982 Below the Sea Convention on the basis of the declarations signed between China and Russia and on this basis the countries directly involved in any dispute should find mutually acceptable solution without any outside interference. We don’t believe that, that attempts to internationalize the disputes are really healthy. Such attempts normally are intended not to help the countries in question to move closer but rather to help some, to gain some political scores internationally, and I don’t believe this is serious, I don’t believe this is fair.





China Seeks Joint Pacific Security Vision With Russia
The two countries have started coordinating moves in the region, but Russia remains silent on the South China Sea.

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By Shannon Tiezzi
August 06, 2015

Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi met with his Russian counterpart, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, on Wednesday, on the sidelines of the ASEAN Foreign Minister’s Meeting in Kuala Lumpur. According to Xinhua, Wang told Lavrov that “China is willing to strengthen the strategic coordination with Russia on Asia-Pacific affairs to promote a common, cooperative, comprehensive and sustainable Asian security concept and jointly safeguard regional peace, stability and development.” It’s the latest indication that China is seeking to leverage Russia’s growing military presence in the region to advance its own security and defense interests in the Pacific.

China and Russia already have a history of cooperation in Central Asia, defying predictions that competition over that region will derail their relationship. The two countries function as co-leaders in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, and have even linked together their economic visions for the region (Russia’s Eurasian Economic Union and China’s Silk Road Economic Belt). When it comes to the Pacific Ocean region, however, Russia and China’s joint activities have been slower to develop – but that’s starting to change.

In part, that’s due to an increased Russia presence in the Pacific, particularly on the military front. In April, U.S. Admiral Samuel Locklear, then the commander of Pacific Command, told the House Armed Services Committee that Russia “has returned to … nearly a Cold War level of activity” in the Pacific. Russia is improving is strategic nuclear deterrent and submarine force on its eastern coast, in the north Pacific, Locklear said, and is “exerting increased influence not only in the Arctic… but also in Northeast Asia.” Russia has also been increasing its military presence in Southeast Asia, Locklear added.

Japan has also noted increased Russian military activity. In fiscal year 2014, Japan scrambled fighter jets 943 times, a 16 percent increase over FY2013 and the second-highest rate ever. That increase back to Cold War levels was partly due to increased flights by Chinese fighters near the disputed Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands in the East China Sea, but equally due to Russian bombers and patrol planes passing close to Japan’s north. In fact, Chinese aircraft accounted for under half (464) of the scrambles, Japan’s Defense Ministry reported. Scrambles to meet Russian aircraft were up roughly four times from 2004 levels.

Russia also recently announced that it will build up its military and civilian infrastructure on the Kuril Islands, which Japan claims at the Northern Territories, meaning Japan can expect Russia’s military presence in the north Pacific to continue to grow.

China, meanwhile, seems to welcome this increased Russian presence. In addition to stepping up joint military exercises, including a planned naval drill to be held in the Sea of Japan later in August, China and Russia held their first-ever meeting specifically dedicated to the topic of Northeast Asian security issues in April. At the meeting, the two countries “agreed to enhance dialogues and coordination to promote peace and stability in the region,” according to Xinhua.

For China, a more active Russian approach toward the Asia-Pacific provides a useful counterweight to U.S. influence in the region. Beijing also appreciates Moscow’s support on security issues, where the two countries often see eye-to-eye. Russia and China joined voices to object to the deployment of the U.S. missile defense system THAAD on South Korea, for example.

Still, despite Wang and Lavrov’s remarks about cooperation, China is unlikely to win rhetorical backing from Russia on the issue that will draw the most attention at this year’s ASEAN meetings: the South China Sea disputes. China has come under heavy criticism from Southeast Asian countries, Japan, and the United States for its land reclamation activities. Russia, meanwhile, has refrained from defending China – and has even sold six Kilo-class submarines to Vietnam, one of the rival claimants.

It’s precisely this close relationship with Vietnam that has prevented Moscow from giving moral support to Beijing on the disputes. As Anton Tsvetov, media and government relations manager at the Russian International Affairs Council, put it in a recent article for Russia Direct,

Russia’s possible involvement in the South China Sea dispute would have been a no-brainer if another vocal claimant –Vietnam — weren’t also the country’s closest partner in Southeast Asia.” In its attempt to avoid antagonizing either China or Vietnam, Russia has adopted what Tsvetov describes as an almost “non-existent” position on the disputes. As a sign of Russia’s tightrope walk, there are plans for Russia to hold joint naval exercises in the South China Sea next year. with its “Asia-Pacific allies,” which would likely include not only China but Vietnam as well.

While China would appreciate diplomatic cover from Russia on the South China Sea issue, such support is not forthcoming. Still, Beijing hopes to work with Moscow more productively on Northeast Asian issues. Russia’s support will be crucial as China tries to advance its own security vision for the Asia-Pacific region — a vision where the United States plays a much diminished role.

China Seeks Joint Pacific Security Vision With Russia | The Diplomat
 
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two of many domestic produced toys in military factories:

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night vision goggles
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Rehearsal for the upcoming event marking the National Day September 2, in Hanoi´s Ba Dinh Square. Back in history, on September 2, 1945, at Ba Đình Square, Ho Chi Minh,
leader of the communist Viet Minh organization, declared Vietnam's independence under the new name of the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRVN), taking over the power from the collapsing Japanese army in the country.


Thủ tướng yêu cầu: Đảm bảo An toàn giao thông dịp Quốc Khánh 2/9

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a 21-gun salute will be fired from the Thang Long Royal Citadel
122mm field artillery (M30)

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Maybe in the next eon :)

A welcome party from troops station in island to visitor from inland
 

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should send some of dat girlz to our parade
Forget it. We would have angered the japanese if we send army troop. You can't deny that you stage an overly nationalistic anti-japanese parade. Try a more neutral and a peaceful parade next time. Cheers!
 
Forget it. We would have angered the japanese if we send army troop. You can't deny that you stage an overly nationalistic anti-japanese parade. Try a more neutral and a peaceful parade next time. Cheers!

But your President is still participating our parade, so you shouldn't whine about it.
 
Following tradition of great sea powers in the world, Lê Quý Đôn, the first ever training sailing ship of Vietnam Navy is set on sea trails. The ship, named after a 18th-century Vietnamese philosopher, was built by Marine Projects, a Poland´s shipyard.

Specs: keel laying on 2nd July 2014, displacement 950 tonnes, length 67 meters, hull dimensions of 58.3 x 10 x 4 meters. Ship’s engine room is fitted with the Caterpillar C32 engine which allows the vessel to reach speeds of 12 knots, without using the sails. 1,400 square meters of sails, three masts, each 41 meters tall. manned by a crew of 30, additionally 80 recruits may stay on board in 12-14 persons cabins. The ship also features a training room equipped with a proper IT infrastructure. can stay on sea for 45 days.


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Sea trails in the Waters of the Gdansk Bay

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But your President is still participating our parade, so you shouldn't whine about it.
why should I whine? no reason for it. just a logical step that VN head of state is coming when invited. but nobody in VN with a clear mind would send a army unit to China to participate a victory parade that intimidates and angers Japan. What do you think how the japanese people think when seeing Vietnamese soldiers in Beijing marching with the PLA?

If you stage a celebration with a more neutral tone, we would have participated. so maybe next time.
 
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