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You are right on much of that but the taliban is still not really defeated and as usual the western powers end up getting tired of the stalemate and leave, it remains to be seen if the Afghan army can cope with them. After the initial victories (many years ago) , the situation ended up in a war of attrition where NATO soldiers get killed all the time, usually by Taliban that infiltrated into the army and police. The government controls the main cities and the Taliban controls the countryside. That war of attrition and the lack of a clear cut victory is what made the current stalemate which has been around for years now. I can hardly see that as a victory although I do wish that the taliban get creamed, but I don't see it as something easy to do.

Some of the things that you mentioned actually apply to Al-qaeda, not to the Taliban and anyway, the northern areas are usually not controlled by the Taliban, the Taliban controls the south of the country which is the Pashtun area and they are in control there, that's why I say its an stalemate, not a victory, neither side is able to actually win.


I am just asking you and answer this honestly

Are the USA and ISAF achieving their objective as i listed before? Are Osama and much of his close aides dead or been captured? are Taliban government in Kabul crumble and their supporter hiding in cave like a rats, and only came out from their holes in cover of darkness? are USA can setting up the pro-USA government in Kabul?

and according to your argument, i just keep wondering about what kind of objective USA setting before their starting up their invasion against Taliban and Al-Qaida in Afghanistan? killing all of Talibunnies? or this is a kind of war of annihilation?
 
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I am just asking you and answer this honestly

Are the USA and ISAF achieving their objective as i listed before? Are Osama and much of his close aides dead or been captured? are Taliban government in Kabul crumble and their supporter hiding in cave like a rats, and only came out from their holes in cover of darkness? are USA can setting up the pro-USA government in Kabul?

and according to your argument, i just keep wondering about what kind of objective USA setting before their starting up their invasion against Taliban and Al-Qaida in Afghanistan? killing all of Talibunnies? or this is a kind of war of annihilation?

The problem with Afghanistan, and this has been the same throughout recent history, is that no foreign power is able to control it. Its not difficult to go with overwhelming power and kick arse in a conventional type of warfare, the US is good at that, it did it easily in Iraq and Afghanistan, it only took a few weeks. It was the same for the russians, they took over very fast.

The problem is after that, to stay in control and that's where everybody fails. Everybody gets bog down in a war of attrition that can't win. If you look at how the US and European press talk about Afghanistan, they see it as an endless war that they need to get out off and that's what they are doing. And frankly, as long as Pakistan keeps supporting the Taliban, its impossible to win. And furthermore, its an ethnic conflict also; the north is one particular ethnic group that is pro western and that's the area that the government controls easily, those are the traditional enemies of the Pashtuns, the south as well as the northwest of Pakistan is Pashtun and that area is not controlled by the government, On top of that, the Taliban are religious fanatics and for each one that gets killed, at least another one takes its place, so its a never ending conflict, that's why the western powers want out. It reminds me of Vietnam, once the americans realized that they could not win, they left everything in the hands of south vietnam and left. 2 or 3 years later south vietnam collapsed. It could be the same in Afghanistan.

If the objective of the US is just to get the Taliban out of power, get Al-Qaeda on the run and to kill bin laden, well, most of that was done in just a few weeks and Bin Laden a few years later, that was the easy part, but the US stayed there to prevent the Taliban from retaking power and what's the situation now? They are trying to engage the Taliban into peace talks and bring them into a coalition government, otherwise the conflict continues, the Taliban are far from hiding in caves, they control a lot of territory. What the outcome will be, I really don't know, but as long as Pakistan is in bed with the Taliban, they can't really be defeated. This is not a conflict that is easy to define or to make conclusive endings and can easily keep going for many years.
 
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4/10 handover a modern 2,200t vessel to the coast guard. more are under construction.

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Historic photos:
Liberation Day of Hanoi 60 years ago

the victory over the French army not only ends French colonialism, but erases the century long humiliation of Vietnam.

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Battalion 307, Brigade 308 taking over Long Bien Bridge
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Officers marching in front of Hong Van-Long Van ice-cream shop, now Dong Kinh Nghia Thuc Square.
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Nurses following soldiers returning from a base
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Art troupes on Hang Dao, Hang Ngang Streets
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The Liberation Army enters Hang Dao Cross-road
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Welcoming the Liberation Army to the capital city
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Hanoians waving in welcome of the Liberation Army
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Doctor Tran Duy Hung, Vice Chairman of the City Troops Committee
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French soldiers withdraw via Hang Dau St to Long Bien Bridge

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A flag lowering ceremony ends French colonialism in Vietnam
 
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FM Minh with U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry at the State Department in Washington October 2, 2014. the US decision to ease arms embargo came with a sudden.

a tip from US Senator John McCain: if Vietnam continues to "improve" human rights, the US will totally scrap the arms embargo.

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...and the 1-2-3 nuclear pact with America becomes effective.

US-Vietnam Nuclear Cooperation Agreement Becomes Effective
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http://www.defensenews.com/article/20141004/DEFREG/310040020/New-Vietnam-Ruling-Could-Open-Door-Further-Exports

Oct. 4, 2014 - 03:45AM |
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New Life for old Planes: US-built P-3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft are among the equipment Vietnam may want to purchase, after the US loosened its regulations governing sales to Vietnam. (MC2 Jillian Lotti/ / US Navy)

WASHINGTON — The decision by the US to legalize the sale of lethal equipment for maritime security to Vietnam could have major impacts on both the regional balance of power and US industry.

The decision to allow arms sales to Vietnam for the first time since the Vietnam War comes at a time of increased Chinese aggression in the South China Sea. Sales of equipment will be restricted to maritime defense, a nebulous term that allows the US to decide on a case-by-case basis what equipment can be sold to the Vietnamese military.

The goal, State Department officials told reporters during an Oct. 2 briefing, is to bolster Vietnam’s maritime security without giving them equipment that could be used in violation of human rights. “Just because we’ve shifted the nonlethal policy is not an indication we’re going to provide all lethal assistance,” one official said. “I don’t want you to get the sense the floodgates are opening.”

The State Department is casting this as a decision based on improved relations with Vietnam, rather than a move to blunt Chinese aggression in the region. “This is not an anti-China move,” another official said. “This is not something where we would feel we had to alert China to. This is really a move on the continuum of things we’ve been talking about to help countries build maritime capacity.”

Indeed, relations between the US and Vietnam have been warming for years, particularly since a 2010 trip to Hanoi by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. The State Department officials were quick to point to internal improvements inside Vietnam as well, particularly on the human rights front.

But it is impossible to deny the growing aggression of China in the region, something that came to a head over the summer when Chinese forces set up an oil rig inside water claimed by Vietnam, leading to confrontations between the two navies. Beijing eventually removed the oil rig, but Murray Hiebert, deputy director of the Sumitro Chair for Southeast Asia Studies at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, said the incident reminded Vietnam of the need to “look over their shoulders” at their northern neighbor.

He added that the US has been interested in increasing military-to-military relationships in recent years, but the oil rig incident may have given the impetus for both sides to make things happen. “Vietnam is trying, like a lot of regional countries, to balance its relations with China and the US,” Hiebert said. “China is Vietnam’s biggest trading partner. It provides electricity in the north, it provides component parts for export products, so Vietnam can only go so far. It’s a very calibrated, cautious approach.”

Zhuang Jianzhong of Shanghai Jiao Tong University warns that China will not be happy with what it could view as the arming of its southern neighbor. “It’s a prepositioning of equipment against China and we are not happy with this decision,” he said. “We will not overreact, for there is no immediate conflict or war between China and Vietnam. But we will talk about that when Obama comes to Beijing” for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting in November.

Hiebert agrees Beijing won’t be happy with the move, but is unlikely to raise a public stink over it. Other nations in the region are unlikely to make much fuss about the decision, he added. “I think most countries, particularly the other claimants [to the South China Sea], are going to just see this as increasing the capability of Vietnam’s very weak Navy,” he said.

Boon for Industry?

The State Department officials acknowledged that the definition of maritime security will likely include aircraft. And for a US industrial base that is hoping for foreign sales to boost profits amid domestic budget cuts, Vietnam could represent a goldmine, said Richard Aboulafia of the Teal Group.

“There is a very high degree of inevitably that one day Vietnam will be a major US defense equipment market, and for quite a few years they’ve been heading in that direction,” Aboulafia said. “Once again, the No. 1 promoter of the US cause, in terms of diplomacy, military cooperation and defense sales, is Beijing.”

He expects Vietnam to move quickly to procure some form of maritime surveillance aircraft, likely excess P-3 aircraft the US Navy is looking to retire as it brings its more advanced P-8 fleet online. He added that used C-130 cargo planes could make “an awful lot of sense” for maritime search-and-rescue operations. That could come in the form of excess C-130H models, as the US National Guard wants to divest those in favor of the more modern C-130J.

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C-130 Hercules

Carl Thayer, a professor at the Australian Defence Force Academy, said “both sides would benefit” from a P-3 agreement. He adds that Vietnam may look to add a coastal radar of some sort, and helicopters that could be launched from its Molinya-class frigates.

Of note is an agreement, announced by Secretary of State John Kerry in late 2013 to provide Vietnam with five fast, unarmed patrol vessels. Thayer said Vietnam might be interested in another order of cutters, this time armed. The first State Department official said it has not received any signs from Vietnam that it wants the original tranche of five boats to have weapons added back, but did not rule out the possibility of arming those cutters down the line.

While the short term market may be filled quickly, the true prize is the potential for a long-term, reliable military customer, particularly with Vietnamese naval forces willing to spend on modernization.

Andrew Shapiro, a former senior State Department official who headed Political-Military Affairs, called the decision “a very positive first step that could lead to further expansion in the years ahead.” US companies are “bullish” on Vietnam as a market, Shapiro said, and so is the US government.

“The US military is greatly interested in deepening cooperation with Vietnam and working more closely together,” he said “This is a significant indicator that the Vietnamese are becoming more comfortable with us as a potential partner, and I think DoD and state are interested in building on the progress.”

Shapiro added that lifting the ban on lethal equipment could also lead to growth in non-defense industries. The state officials said there are no plans to lift the remaining restrictions on military trade, but left the possibility open.

“As the relationship progresses, and if there is continued progress on human rights, that makes it easier and more likely we take other steps to build the relationship,” the first official said. “So we’re not ruling it out down the road, assuming there is continued progress.” ■

Wendell Minnick in Taipei contributed to this report.
 
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landing of a DHC-6 Twin Otter, the number #6 of this kind and final patrol aircraft for the navy. now the squadron is complete and can start patrolling the south china sea.
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New coastal maritime surveillance radar for the navy: Coast Watcher 100 (France)

specs: wavelength 10m, over the horizon radar, capable to detect targets such as
  • stealth vessel at a distance of 45 km with radar reflector size (RCS) of 1m2
  • aircraft at a distance of 90 km at low altitude of 170m with RCS of 25m2
  • fishing vessel with RCS of 50m2 with 3m height above sea level at 145 km distance
  • warship with RCS of 10,000m2, 10m height above sea level at a distance of 170 km
  • can be installed on the next generation of warships such as Sigma class

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I got issue to post pictures here...hmm

here is the next try: a Kilo (artistic) fires a antiship missile 3M-54E (200 kg warhead, range of 220 km, extremly powerful rocket engine drives the rocket to three times the speed of sound, making it difficult for enemy ships to flee). Being hit, no warship, be destroyer or cruiser or aircraft carrier can survive.

as silent killer, the sub equipped with powerful torpedo and cruise missiles poses a serious threat to any enemy aircraft carrier battle group.

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if there are problems with missile guided warships, things come to the military factory X56.
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7/8: a coast guard is established to protect marine waters of Spratlys
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the patrol vessel CSB 8001 is among the fleet.
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microdrone md4-1000 (Germany)

specs:
  • VTOL aircraft (Vertical Take Off and Landing), controlled by remote control or GPS waypoint navigation software
  • 88 minutes flying time, 1,200g payload, operate in all weather conditions, operational altitude 1,000 meters

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accessories:
RPA ground station
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Laser Scanner: to scan the terrain below the drone very quickly with a very high precision
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Multiple Camera Array

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or just a
Sony NEX-7 Foto-/Video-Set: pictures are transmitted live to the control station
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The equipment should be shown here only if they are made in Vietnam, or they are some big cost and special item, like submarine. If they are not, what is the purpose. Even the poorest country in the world can buy such equipment.
 
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