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[Carlosa]

if we have a spuadron of this sub, we will become the undispute naval power in southeast asia.

I think so.

have we officially changed to the new white color?.

I don't know, I like the blue color myself, china also uses white.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Bro, If you are happy about that, I can tell you one more thing that will make you happier, the following comes from Vietnamese naval officers:

"Several tests were performed on the Vietnamese Kilos prove that they are very capable combatants, with much lower noise compared to Chinese counterparts (including the Project 877EKM and 636M Improved Kilo). The exact numbers won't be disclosed, but it assures that the Vietnamese Kilos will be a silent killer under the sea."

Obviously, this means that the Vietnamese Kilos are a more up to date version than the improved Kilos that china got and that makes a lot of sense.

Let black flag and the chinese crowd say whatever they want about the Kilos, they are not in a position to actually know. The chinese navy does know better than them and that's why, as that analyst said, they are concerned about the vietnamese Kilos and they have a lot of respect for the vietnamese military.

Time to order a second batch with AIP and a 8 cell VLS Brahmos launcher!!!!!
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You sound like Kilo is China's only sub.

How about our much more advanced AIP subs with a much larger quantity?

Type 039A
Type 039A submarine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Type 039B
Type 039B, Improved Yuan Class Diesel Electric Submarine??

Type 039C
New Chinese 039C Submarine Doesn’t Need to Come up for Air… in Several Weeks | Popular Science


And don't forget our nuclear subs which is one of our most powerful and lethal weapons.

 

[World Citizen]

I think so.



I don't know, I like the blue color myself, china also uses white.

Blue looks better isn't it .

 

[Carlosa]

You sound like Kilo is China's only sub.

How about our much more advanced AIP subs with a much larger quantity?.

Much more advanced, says who? Since when can trust what china says?

How about the incredibly bad performance of the propulsion system of the type 52C destroyers? If we just listen to you and what china says, those are great destroyers, at least as good as the american AEGIS, but they are actually crap, how can we believe those advanced chinese submarines are any better?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Much more advanced, says who? Since when can trust what china says?

How about the incredibly bad performance of the propulsion system of the type 52C destroyers? If we just listen to you and what china says, those are great destroyers, at least as good as the american AEGIS, but they are actually crap, how can we believe those advanced chinese submarines are any better?

Who said that the Type 052C has the bad performance? Kanwa? That military magazine has basically zero credibility, and it has been debunked so many times.

How can the Type 052C with bad performance successfully accomplish to escort the ships in the Gulf of Aden so many times?

Mind you that the Type 052C has the AESA radar, while even the newest Arleigh Burke ships will use the PESA radar.

 

[Carlosa]

Who said that the Type 052C has the bad performance? Kanwa? That military magazine has basically zero credibility, and it has been debunked so many times.

How can the Type 052C with bad performance successfully accomplish to escort the ships in the Gulf of Aden so many times?

Mind you that the Type 052C has the AESA radar, while even the newest Arleigh Burke ships will use the PESA radar.

Sorry, but I rather trust Kanwa than you.

If the chinese military is concerned about the vietnamese Kilos, that tells me enough.

If one day we get to see fireworks between US and china, then we'll see for real how chinese systems really work, until that time, china is not tested in combat and is all just talk, and not just talk, but talk from a totalitarian government and a system that is not know for a trustworthy reputation, but rather all the opposite, they usually hide their mistakes or performance problems and lie non stop as every chinese living in China knows very well.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Sorry, but I rather trust Kanwa than you.

If the chinese military is concerned about the vietnamese Kilos, that tells me enough.

If one day we get to see fireworks between US and china, then we'll see for real how chinese systems really work, until that time, china is not tested in combat and is all just talk, and not just talk, but talk from a totalitarian government and a system that is not know for a trustworthy reputation, but rather all the opposite, they usually hide their mistakes or performance problems and lie non stop as every chinese living in China knows very well.

Kanwa: J-20 is a fake mockup
Reality: J-20 is flying for more than hundred of times

Kanwa: The CV Liaoning has no landing gear
Reality: Liaoning has landing the J-15 more than hundred of times

Andrei Chang promised that he would shut down his business if J-20 can fly back in 2011, now this shameless liar has not even fulfilled his promise yet.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Kanwa: J-20 is a fake mockup
Reality: J-20 is flying for more than hundred of times

Kanwa: The CV Liaoning has no landing gear
Reality: Liaoning has landing the J-15 more than hundred of times

Andrei Chang promised that he would shut down his business if J-20 can fly back in 2011, now this shameless liar has not even fulfilled his promise yet.

Never argue with a bigot because prejudice is not based in logic, thus you cannot outreason it.

 

[Viet]

10/01/2014 defence ministry

receiving the new Brazilian Defence and Air Force Attaché to Vietnam, Senior Colonel Flavio Eduardo Mendonca Tarraf.

greeting a delegation from India’s National Cadet Corp, led by Colonel Biju Thomas

welcoming Australian Chief of Navy, Vice Admiral Timothy William Barrett

Senior Lieutenant General Ngo Xuan Lich visits Cambodian PM Hun Sen.

 

[Carlosa]

Never argue with a bigot because prejudice is not based in logic, thus you cannot outreason it.

Ohhh some people don't like to hear facts huh? China doesn't lie right?

What did China say about the Hong Kong protestors? They are foreign motivated and "coerced" into demonstrating!!!

Right, what else can be expected from the chinese government, but according to the chinese clowns in this forum, we should believe the claims that china makes, well, I suggest you go back to the hole that you crawled from in the chinese threads and stay there, we don't need your input here.

 

[Viet]

Much more advanced, says who? Since when can trust what china says?

How about the incredibly bad performance of the propulsion system of the type 52C destroyers? If we just listen to you and what china says, those are great destroyers, at least as good as the american AEGIS, but they are actually crap, how can we believe those advanced chinese submarines are any better?

yes, actually chinese army is a blackbox. nobody knows what is inside. we see mass of soldiers with many weapon systems. some appear very modern to me. things will get clear if they are engaged in a real combat.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Ohhh some people don't like to hear facts huh? China doesn't lie right?

Asserting things are facts does not make them facts. Proof does. You are a bigot because you are saying things are false for the person saying them, not for actual proof they are false. Name one single TECHNICAL claim by China that was proven false.

 

[Carlosa]

Asserting things are facts does not make them facts. Proof does. You are a bigot because you are saying things are false for the person saying them, not for actual proof they are false. Name one single TECHNICAL claim by China that was proven false.

You said don't argue with a bigot? Then what are you doing here? We were fine until you clowns intruded here, did anybody ask for your opinion? Does anybody here care to talk to you people? I think not, so stop wasting our time, go back to the chinese threads!!!!

 

[William Hung]

Let black flag and the chinese crowd say whatever they want about the Kilos, they are not in a position to actually know. The chinese navy does know better than them and that's why, as that analyst said, they are concerned about the vietnamese Kilos and they have a lot of respect for the vietnamese military.

Time to order a second batch with AIP and a 8 cell VLS Brahmos launcher!!!!!
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Huh, why did you mentioned me? were you inviting me here for a conversation?

 

[Carlosa]

Huh, why did you mentioned me? were you inviting me here for a conversation?

Because you used to talk a lot about the Kilos, remember?

No problems with you, you are quite ok.