Vietnam Conducts Air-Ground Military Exercises

[Toss The Lemon]

can you read vietnamese?

No i can't. I only know a little such as TQ is Zhong Guo is China, Quan Su is Jun Shi is Military (probably ) and etc.

 

[Carlosa]

ok, that is clear. so RPG-29 appears to be a solution as long as the army does not have money for modern tanks. Really weird, it has more firepower than old tanks as T55M3. here a pic with the defence minister, RPG29 with armor piercing granate PG-29V, thick armor of 650mm is not a problem.
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I read RPG-29 can even penetrate Merkava, M1A2 and Challenger-II. and of course this poor tank T-72 in Sylria civil war. pretty cool. cheap and effective.
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That's correct. Another good antitank missile is the American Javelin since it hits the tanks from the top, where the armor is thin (and it also has a tandem warhead).

 

[bolo]

Probably around 20-25.

Their army looks like a junior PLA.

junior junior PLA

 

[bolo]

By popular request:

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pretty ugly. ONly second last pic of chick was worth looking at.

 

[Toss The Lemon]

ok, that is clear. so RPG-29 appears to be a solution as long as the army does not have money for modern tanks. Really weird, it has more firepower than old tanks as T55M3. here a pic with the defence minister, RPG29 with armor piercing granate PG-29V, thick armor of 650mm is not a problem..

I think Vietnam still need to develope new tanks along with new tank guns (bigger caliber). Having RPG-29 is also good since its very convenient in close combat or in the city. But its going to be hard approaching a tank in open ground.

Additionally i just want to mention that PG-29 is a HEAT type ammunition based on munroe effect. Which will shoot out a high pressured stream of metal crumbs when its triggered, and drill through armour. Since PG-29 is two-staged, it would be good to aganist a tank has plain steel armour even with some ERA (like Type 59 equiped with some ERA), chance to get through is high, and very possibly to kill personal with the high speed metal crumbs and leaves a mess in there.

But it would have less chance to break through composite armour tile (not impossible, but less chance, depends the location and bit of luck), eg. for ceramic armor, the energy of the pressure will distriputed more evenly on the surface which leaves less follow-up force to contining penetrate. Not to mention tanks would equiped with cage armour, ERA, composite armour, even chains when they enter battle.

(Chain hanging on the back like Merkava MK4)

So i would say for now kinetic energy weapon like APFSDS, or ATGM is best way to go, and I think Vietnam has already got some from Isreal (For ATGM is possibly LAHAT, not clear about the amount).The the main difficulty for T55 changing its gun to 125mm is the balance issue, the space for autoloader, which decrease the ammunition-carrying-ability. And the overall modification cannot exceed the weight limitation, good mobility still needed, cuz T55 doens't have enough room for a new engine, but 105mm gun is the best fit for now.

 

[Shinigami]

vietnamese women have wear high heels for combat?

in india unfortunately pretty ladies go to bollywood or modelling. the women in the indian army are combat capable ones whos pictures are nowhere near as good

 

[Shinigami]

indian army womens team that climbed mt everest

 

[Carlosa]

I think Vietnam still need to develope new tanks along with new tank guns (bigger caliber). Having RPG-29 is also good since its very convenient in close combat or in the city. But its going to be hard approaching a tank in open ground.

Additionally i just want to mention that PG-29 is a HEAT type ammunition based on munroe effect. Which will shoot out a high pressured stream of metal crumbs when its triggered, and drill through armour. Since PG-29 is two-staged, it would be good to aganist a tank has plain steel armour even with some ERA (like Type 59 equiped with some ERA), chance to get through is high, and very possibly to kill personal with the high speed metal crumbs and leaves a mess in there.
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But it would have less chance to break through composite armour tile (not impossible, but less chance, depends the location and bit of luck), eg. for ceramic armor, the energy of the pressure will distriputed more evenly on the surface which leaves less follow-up force to contining penetrate. Not to mention tanks would equiped with cage armour, ERA, composite armour, even chains when they enter battle.
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(Chain hanging on the back like Merkava MK4)

So i would say for now kinetic energy weapon like APFSDS, or ATGM is best way to go, and I think Vietnam has already got some from Isreal (For ATGM is possibly LAHAT, not clear about the amount).The the main difficulty for T55 changing its gun to 125mm is the balance issue, the space for autoloader, which decrease the ammunition-carrying-ability. And the overall modification cannot exceed the weight limitation, good mobility still needed, cuz T55 doens't have enough room for a new engine, but 105mm gun is the best fit for now.

All good points, thank you, but what about the Type 59G upgrade and the Pakistani and Bangladeshi upgrades of T-55 which are based on it? They did integrate the 125 mm gun and all the reports about that gun seem to be that is working out well. The Pakistanis are very happy with it.

By the way, you mentioned that it doesn't have room for a new engine, but actually, the vietnamese upgrade includes a new 1000 hp engine.

I also think that Vietnam still need to develope new tanks along with new tank guns (bigger caliber), the upgraded T-55 is a second tier tank and anyway, Vietnam is buying T-90's.

 

[cnleio]

I think Vietnam still need to develope new tanks along with new tank guns (bigger caliber). Having RPG-29 is also good since its very convenient in close combat or in the city. But its going to be hard approaching a tank in open ground.

Additionally i just want to mention that PG-29 is a HEAT type ammunition based on munroe effect. Which will shoot out a high pressured stream of metal crumbs when its triggered, and drill through armour. Since PG-29 is two-staged, it would be good to aganist a tank has plain steel armour even with some ERA (like Type 59 equiped with some ERA), chance to get through is high, and very possibly to kill personal with the high speed metal crumbs and leaves a mess in there.
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But it would have less chance to break through composite armour tile (not impossible, but less chance, depends the location and bit of luck), eg. for ceramic armor, the energy of the pressure will distriputed more evenly on the surface which leaves less follow-up force to contining penetrate. Not to mention tanks would equiped with cage armour, ERA, composite armour, even chains when they enter battle.
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(Chain hanging on the back like Merkava MK4)

So i would say for now kinetic energy weapon like APFSDS, or ATGM is best way to go, and I think Vietnam has already got some from Isreal (For ATGM is possibly LAHAT, not clear about the amount).The the main difficulty for T55 changing its gun to 125mm is the balance issue, the space for autoloader, which decrease the ammunition-carrying-ability. And the overall modification cannot exceed the weight limitation, good mobility still needed, cuz T55 doens't have enough room for a new engine, but 105mm gun is the best fit for now.

105mm vs China tanks ? Im sure it can damage old type59 ... but when face ZTZ96A, ZTZ99 and ZTZ99A, 105mm is so weak.

 

[Carlosa]

105mm vs China tanks ? Im sure it can damage old type59 ... but when face ZTZ96A, ZTZ99 and ZTZ99A, 105mm is so weak.

Most likely, but it does have the Israeli Lahat missile.

 

[cnleio]

Most likely, but it does have the Israeli Lahat missile.

I see, ATM is good for Vietnam but a updated T-54 only looks good when face China 125mm gun, prepare for 3-gen West MBTs.

Its penetration depth to tank steel armor reach > 1,000 mm

 

[Carlosa]

I see, ATM is good for Vietnam but a updated T-54 only looks good when face China 125mm gun, prepare for 3-gen West MBTs.

Its penetration depth to tank steel armor reach > 1,000 mm
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Yes, myself I don't agree with the upgrade including a 105 mm gun, everything else in the upgrade is really very good, but using the 105 mm gun is the weak point of the upgrade.

 

[cnleio]

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[cnleio]

Yes, myself I don't agree with the upgrade including a 105 mm gun, everything else in the upgrade is really very good, but using the 105 mm gun is the weak point of the upgrade.

Change a new chassis or new powerful engine for carrying a 125mm gun ... China ever developed updated type59 tank with a 125mm gun but with new designed chassis.

 

[Carlosa]

Change a new chassis or new powerful engine for carrying a 125mm gun ... China ever developed updated type59 tank with a 125mm gun but with new designed chassis.

Yes, I know, the type 59G with the 125 mm gun as done by Pakistan and Bangladesh.

The vietnamese upgrade includes a much more powerful engine at 1000 hp, but still decided for a 105 mm gun. I don't like that decision.