Vice gets unprecedented access to the Islamic Sharia caliphate

[Sliver]

well they sure have mentioned that in their headlines thats for sure. And BTW ISIS has been under training by USA in jordan since past 3 years. Saudis are jackshit when it comes to training or doing some hard work type things thats why even we train the saudis regularly in SF, Army, Navy and Airforce and so are they trained by NATO countries and US. Yes they have money through which they finance them but the arms and training is done by US and israel. And even these sources dont refuse this in particular. BTW i have shared a video too.

Now if u still want to remain in a denial mode then yr welcome.

where is this proof? you gave a video that showed US trains Free Syrian Army and you twist that to say you gave a video to show that US trained ISIS!

@Umair Nawaz : direct question:
is the ISIS denigrating/degrading islam?
if no then you have no problem with them - which puts you in the same box as them
if yes, then why is there no hue and cry across the Islamic world in the same vein as you do when a certain EU nation bans the burqa? why are YOU not raising a hue an cry about the ISIS guys so far in the same tone and tenor as you would bash the non-muslims

I am still waiting on your reply @Umair Nawaz

 

[Umair Nawaz]

@Umair Nawaz : direct question:
is the ISIS denigrating/degrading islam?
if no then you have no problem with them - which puts you in the same box as them
if yes, then why is there no hue and cry across the Islamic world in the same vein as you do when a certain EU nation bans the burqa? why are YOU not raising a hue an cry about the ISIS guys so far in the same tone and tenor as you would bash the non-muslims

my point is that any organization who is western, funded, motivated, trained or whatever is not of our problem and must not be shown as if 'OH LOOK THESE ARE MUSLIMS THAT IS THEIR RELIGION THAT IS THEIR SHARIA AND BLAH BLAH'

If u are doing something in the heart of the muslim world for yr own gains then dont malign us!!!!!!

We here in Pakistan dont give a jack shit abt middle east affairs but if u blame our islam and our sharia for the wrong doing of yr own pets u will definitely face our wrath. Because we aint no arab or african country who cant even speak for themselves.

 

[Echo_419]

excuse me? what happened to all the threads about "the most powerful muslim countries".. also what about the only muslim country with nuclear weapons?

well let's make a list
GCC has no guts & is probably backing ISIS
Pakistan is busy with itself at the moment
Turkey does not give a damn,unless ISIS comes to their borders
Egypt is in turmoil
Malaysia & Indonesia are to far & also not give a damn,so Merica must rescue Islamic world from this beast

 

[Informant]

Vice is really becoming a force to reckon. Shane and Suroosh have taken it to new heights.

 

[Sliver]

my point is that any organization who is western, funded, motivated, trained or whatever is not of our problem and must not be shown as if 'OH LOOK THESE ARE MUSLIMS THAT IS THEIR RELIGION THAT IS THEIR SHARIA AND BLAH BLAH'

If u are doing something in the heart of the muslim world for yr own gains then dont malign us!!!!!!

We here in Pakistan dont give a jack shit abt middle east affairs but if u blame our islam and our sharia for the wrong doing of yr own pets u will definitely face our wrath. Because we aint no arab or african country who cant even speak for themselves.

still does not answer the specific question:

do you think ISIS degrades Islam or not? if yes - why no action agianst them or why no "rallies and backlash" against them. If you think they do not degrade islam, please say so - please state your stance on this question.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

where is this proof? you gave a video that showed US trains Free Syrian Army and you twist that to say you gave a video to show that US trained ISIS!




I am still waiting on your reply @Umair Nawaz

That particular video is NOT just these terrorist of Syria. Do u even know what that so called 'Free' Syrian Army actually is???? They are not an army nor are fighting how armies do(combined military efforts of all the battalions and regiments). They are a bunch of groups gathered in one place to fight the Syrian Republic. It is basically an army of independent terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, Al Nusra Group, ISIS, Taliban from Pakistan(atleast 4000 pakistani national r fighting there under taliban banner) and Afghanistan, Norther Alliance of Afghanistan, Hizbullah of Lebanon(its in Syrian Republic side) Terrorists from North Africa those Qaddafi veterans etc etc ISIS is just one of them and most deadly and effective of them. Some of them are just fighting Syrians as individual groups they even hate the other groups fighting there. Basically Syria is hosting a World Cup of terrorism.

This is the story and i can bet on my life that if they ever won in Syria then they will start fighting amongst themselves like they did in Libya just after the fall Libyan government. Hence they will balkanize Syria by declaring the areas they control as independent states exactly what ISIS has done. And these most gainer in this entire picture is Israel in that region and in long run America and its western allies.

still does not answer the specific question:

do you think ISIS degrades Islam or not? if yes - why no action agianst them or why no "rallies and backlash" against them. If you think they do not degrade islam, please say so - please state your stance on this question.

Like i said they aint telling that by themselves its u who have motivated them in such a way that what they do they feel they are serving the will of all mighty.....And that is something ISI has not allowed u and yr CIA to do in South Asia and thats our main success. Awareness is the key.

 

[patriotpakistan]

still does not answer the specific question:

do you think ISIS degrades Islam or not? if yes - why no action agianst them or why no "rallies and backlash" against them. If you think they do not degrade islam, please say so - please state your stance on this question.

ISIS is the organization who's "caliph" (or whatever he is) has been rejected by the muslims on a worldwide scale. There is even a thread on the forum about the widespread condemnation from prominent muslim scholars. The bigots ofcourse are conveniently blind to that. They are much happier frothing in their mouths at islam and muslims.

Islamic World rejects ISIS's 'Caliphate'

 

[Umair Nawaz]

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thansk for being neuro/ brain surgeo
let other people neurons and synapse work with rihgt and left heart chmabers

sure why not.

 

[Sliver]

Like i said they aint telling that by themselves its u who have motivated them in such a way that what they do they feel they are serving the will of all mighty.....And that is something ISI has not allowed u and yr CIA to do in South Asia and thats our main success. Awareness is the key.

You support them or not is the question whic you have filed to answer second time around. And if you do not support, then why no agitations against them? and if you do support, please state it.

 

[patriotpakistan]

You support them or not is the question whic you have filed to answer second time around. And if you do not support, then why no agitations against them? and if you do support, please state it.

He has answered you clearly by rating my previous post.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

You support them or not is the question whic you have filed to answer second time around. And if you do not support, then why no agitations against them? and if you do support, please state it.

LOL i have answer this and have cleared my point any western funded, motivated, armed or whatever organization whom i will never support....Over my dead body!!!!!!!

 

[Sliver]

That particular video is NOT just these terrorist of Syria. Do u even know what that so called 'Free' Syrian Army actually is???? They are not an army not are fighting how armies do. They are a look of groups gathered in one place to fight the Syrian Republic. It has a look of independent terrorist groups like Al Qaeda, Al Nusra Group, ISIS, Taliban from Pakistan(atleast 4000 pakistani national r fighting there under taliban banner) and Afghanistan, Norther Alliance of Afghanistan, Hizbullah of Lebanon(its in Syrian Republic side) Terrorists from North Africa those Qaddafi veterns etc etc ISIS is just one of them and most deadly and effective of them. So u even know sole of them are just fighting Syrians as individual groups they even hate the other groups fighting there.

This is the story and i can bet on my life that if they ever won in Syria then they will start fighting amongst themselves like they did in Libya just after all of Libyan government. Hence they will balkanize Syria by declaring the areas they control as independent states exactly what ISIS has done. And these most gainer in this entire picture is Israel in that region and in long run America and its western allies.


Like i said they aint telling that by themselves its u who have motivated them in such a way that what they do they feel they are serving the will of all mighty.....And that is something ISI has not allowed u and yr CIA to do in South Asia and thats our main success. Awareness is the key.

you betting your life doesnt exactly convert something into a truth Mr.Nawaz

 

[patriotpakistan]

you betting your life doesnt exactly convert something into a truth Mr.Nawaz

Don't troll.

 

[That Guy]

Heretics, to the last one. Baghdadi should be arrested tried and executed for his crimes.

 

[Sliver]

LOL i have answer this and have cleared my point any western funded, motivated, armed or whatever organization whom i will never support....Over my dead body!!!!!!!

good. Now that you do not support ISIS,

1) Why is there no amount of outrage as you do with respect to the Gaza conflict?
2) Why was there no amount of outrage from the Muslim world for the Boko Haram people"?