***** USA This is the Wrong Time to Physically Confront China Now *****

[Place Of Space]

as I said a million time here and there

It's not that US "Confronting" China per se as in many different people said here

Look at what US did in the past 50 years, did US do any more now than in 50 years ago? The answer, is no.

What the American is doing now is what they were doing in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. They did not do more and they did not do less, just this time, China is getting bigger and now felt more threaten by what US did and do.

The situation is not going to change, because most Chinese does not seems to understand one thing. US is an international force, by being international, they are also part of Asia, and that's why US did what they do, to protect their interest in Asia.

Until the day we saw US pack up Guam, CNMI, Japan, South Korea and Probably Hawaii, US will continue to present in Asia, and I don't see how US will pack up Guam, CNMI, Japan and South Korea.

It seems you still don't get the point.

It's not growing China expel America out of Asia, it's about protecting China's own territory.

Like what? Provided Indonesia meddle in Timor and meddle in Christmas Islands. These are two completely different thing to Australia.

 

[xunzi]

US is not confronting China,China is confronting the US and many of its neighbours.The US and its allies are simply defending themselves against agression.

You seriously believe in that crap? They have been constantly harrassing us since the day we were born as a PRC. They bomb our embassy. They treat us as some kind of criminal. We are not allow to have our strategic breathing room. There is not a single day we can live by without knowing they come bombing us or create instability by inciting color revolution. This is not to mention that they have double standard regarding our interest. In fact it was them that want a cold war. Not us.

 

[HRM YANG]

US should go to war with China in the South China Sea. I haven't seen a good US A$$ kicking for a while and I also want to see a nuclear war.

Hey, looks like diverting, set yourself in?

 

[xunzi]

as I said a million time here and there

It's not that US "Confronting" China per se as in many different people said here

Look at what US did in the past 50 years, did US do any more now than in 50 years ago? The answer, is no.

What the American is doing now is what they were doing in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. They did not do more and they did not do less, just this time, China is getting bigger and now felt more threaten by what US did and do.

The situation is not going to change, because most Chinese does not seems to understand one thing. US is an international force, by being international, they are also part of Asia, and that's why US did what they do, to protect their interest in Asia.

Until the day we saw US pack up Guam, CNMI, Japan, South Korea and Probably Hawaii, US will continue to present in Asia, and I don't see how US will pack up Guam, CNMI, Japan and South Korea.

Just because we don't do anything 20-50 years ago doesn't mean we enjoy being harassed. The fact is we are tired of your harassment and will be more proactive in safeguarding our national security even if it means harming interest from another country. We believe the end result they will appreciate our thinking.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

This would the wrong time to not confront China for USA

According to discussion between a Japanese and American diplomats in pre Shinzo Abe Govt.

The Japanese diplomat compared China to an adolescent and stated Chinese perception of weakened USA would mean greater Chinese expansionist activity in EA.

His prediction came out to be true. It would interesting to watch Sino-US relations when Republicans are in power.

 

[Khalid Newazi]

Hey, looks like diverting, set yourself in?

No, diverting, we are in a topic of US vs China war. I just mentioned the battle ground and most likely result.

 

[Huan]

great. which side you pick, should it come to a confrontation between VN and CN?

@Viet , I will have to pick CN side since they have a much higher impact on our world with their massive size and population. And I personally like CN's flag better as compared to VN's. But as long as VN and CN remained as separate countries, their tension of "Warring States Period" will remained between them unfortunately.

 

[55100864]

Confronting with what? so far none of the provocations from US affect our policy, they haven't even try to be honest, not because they like china, because they can't accept the costs of direct confrontation with china. US now is like a girl you picked up in a bar, had a sex, she thought you can't live without her, she strongly convinced that you whole life is at her mercy, but next morning you left her few hundred dollars and threw her away, she is pissed, but the only thing she can do is to tell everybody what an ashole you are, but even her best friends ignored her by participating your group sex salon, she of course is also invited, but decided not to participate, what a pity!!!

 

[Viet]

@Viet , I will have to pick CN side since they have a much higher impact on our world with their massive size and population. And I personally like CN's flag better as compared to VN's. But as long as VN and CN remained as separate countries, their tension of "Warring States Period" will remained between them unfortunately.

no problem. bro. If I was you, I would probably make the same choice.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

with such attitude, no wonder the US wants to kick your ***.

No bro，that‘s just a trend of thoughts，not my attitude

In fact I don’t believe anyone is entitled to anything，only the Law of the Jungle applies to this world，China learned that the hard way from past 200 years，I think it‘s time we teach that lesson to our little vietnamese brothers

 

[Carlosa]

I deleted my last post because I decided not to go the "bias towards another flag" route because of a suspicion of a possible loyalty to another country. Can't be 100% sure that's the case here, which is why I changed it.

I will say that the vibe I get from the OP's opinion seems to be a bit biased towards another flag and I'll just take my leave of this thread with that..

VERY WISE AND VERY TRUE.

 

[HRM YANG]

as I said a million time here and there

It's not that US "Confronting" China per se as in many different people said here

Look at what US did in the past 50 years, did US do any more now than in 50 years ago? The answer, is no.

What the American is doing now is what they were doing in the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. They did not do more and they did not do less, just this time, China is getting bigger and now felt more threaten by what US did and do.

The situation is not going to change, because most Chinese does not seems to understand one thing. US is an international force, by being international, they are also part of Asia, and that's why US did what they do, to protect their interest in Asia.

Until the day we saw US pack up Guam, CNMI, Japan, South Korea and Probably Hawaii, US will continue to present in Asia, and I don't see how US will pack up Guam, CNMI, Japan and South Korea.

Looks adequate you say, but your sentiment is doubtless inclines to west and disregards China's interest.
Yes I admit US is not getting more aggressive in pasted 50 years, but how more aggressive it still could be? It has been to the culmination after WW II, Our SCS( South China Sea) has been dominated by others countries for so long... Ha thanks to that corrupt Manchu Regime and that bald Cheung Kai Shik. We used to have their, so we need it back, don't assert those what sovereignty is illegal or something, Remember US Texas and New Mexico. Now, we are calling those lost treasures back, we have reasons to do that.
Even western world admitted the sovereignty of SCS belongs to China.
Old map( 1943 ) published by Canadian gave a huge lAbel(China) below SCS on the map.you want link?

 

[HRM YANG]

China is having problem with everybody.

They are aggressor the only way china can loose the future is . This way. They make every one their enemy and become another ussr.

I hope Chinese people are liberated and one day china becomes democracy.

Stay aside, You are showing how to be a disruptive pseudo.
Indian, don't act like a noble idiot,
You are stupid enough, I really distaste with one citizen of a country in poverty and concrete caste system accusing China, disgusting and pretentious sympathy, F Off

 

[Aepsilons]

@Huan ,

A war would devastate the region. War should be the last case scenario when all diplomatic options have been exhausted to no avail.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

As Isaac Asimov constantly writes in his early books,

"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"

Will there be a confrontation with open fighting like in the Korean war? China certainly don't desire a fight with the Americans but if the Americans are so daft so as to start a war, I don't see China backing off.


On another note, who here on this forum remembers the 1990s Taiwan strait crisis? Back then the economy was less than a trillion, the navy a total joke and the Chinese could only watch the American carrier strut around in Chinese waters.

Bit by bit, the territories will be reclaimed, if not on paper then by simply having Chinese naval ships and fishing vessels nonchalantly moving in and out with impunity. Hang around long enough and the territory is pretty much taken.