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"...So it could lead to more attacks by the US. Which is a pretty sadistic situation when your foreign policy gets dictated to by the whims of a generally racist population."
Racist, eh?
"ETHNIC GROUPS
...white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)
note:a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); about 15.1% of the total US population is Hispanic..."
C.I.A. World Factbook 2007 Census
Maybe you mean religious discrimination?
"RELIGIONS
Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)"
Let's look at Pakistan, shall we?
Ethnicities?
"Punjabi 44.68%, Pashtun (Pathan) 15.42%, Sindhi 14.1%, Sariaki 8.38%, Muhajirs 7.57%, Balochi 3.57%, other 6.28%"
Religion?
"Muslim 95% (Sunni 75%, Shia 20%), other (includes Christian and Hindu) 5%"
Where do you think it's more likely to find racial, ethnic, and/or religious discrimination, Mr. "think tank" roadrunner?
313,000,000 million Americans wake up each morning. 0.6% of them or 1,800,000 are muslim. Do you think they fear this-
Pakistan City Tense After 'Blaspheming' Christians Shot-BBC July 20, 2010
"Police reinforcements have been called in the Pakistani city of Faisalabad a day after two Christians charged with blasphemy were shot dead outside court.
Clashes broke out in the city, home to a large Christian community, after the brothers were gunned down.
Pastor Rashid Emmanuel, 32, and Sajid, 24, were accused of writing a pamphlet critical of the Prophet Muhammad; a rights activist said they were framed.
Pakistan's controversial blasphemy law carries the death penalty.
A police officer who was escorting the brothers from a district court on Monday was critically wounded when the unidentified gunmen opened fire and then escaped.
No-one in his right mind would issue a derogatory pamphlet against the Prophet and put his name and address on it
At least 10 people were reportedly injured as stone-throwing and rioting broke out in a Christian neighbourhood of the city afterwards.
Police reinforcements from nearby districts have been called in to restore order.
The brothers, from the Waris Pura area of Faisalabad, were arrested earlier this month.
The complainant in the case, a local trader, Khurram Shehzad, alleged that one of his employees was handed a pamphlet by someone at Faisalabad's general bus stand.
He said the paper contained disrespectful remarks about the Prophet Muhammad.
Police told the BBC the pamphlet had apparently been signed by the two brothers, whose addresses and mobile phone numbers were also given.
But Atif Jameel, spokesman for the Pakistan Minorities Democratic Foundation, told the BBC: "No-one in his right mind would issue a derogatory pamphlet against the Prophet and put his name and address on it.
'This appears to be a conspiracy against peace and religious harmony in Faisalabad.'
Earlier this month, several hundred demonstrators marched to the Waris Pura slum, which is home to nearly 100,000 Christians, and demanded the death penalty for the two accused.
Although no-one has ever been executed under Pakistan's blasphemy law, about 10 accused have been murdered before the completion of their trial, according to a BBC Urdu correspondent in Lahore.
Dozens more are living in exile to avoid punishment under the legislation."
Or this-
Assassinated Pakistani Official Supported Religious Tolerance-ABC News March 2, 2011
"Shahbaz Bhatti, the minority affairs minister and the only Christian member of the cabinet, was driving from his mother's house in Islamabad when gunmen pumped more than 20 bullets through the door and windshield of his car, according to eyewitnesses and the police. The gunmen then calmly dropped dozens of flyers at the scene that threatened the same fate to anyone who criticizes laws that are supported by Pakistan's religious political parties but widely condemned by secular Pakistanis as tools to persecute religious minorities.
'This is a lesson to the world of infidel crusaders and Jews, and their allies in the Muslim world," the pamphlet said, signed by the previously unknown group Movement of Taliban al Qaeda in Punjab. "Either you or us will live in this world.'"
Or this?
Christian Man Raped, Murdered For Refusing To Convert, Family Says-FOX News June 13, 2009
"On that farmhouse four days there we all, Christians and family, were searching for him," the Rev. Bhatti said. "I was with him. I was searching for him."
After police discovered the body, Ghauri's death was declared a homicide and the family filed paperwork with the Atta Shaheed police station in their small village, Adda 44SB. But Ghauri's brother said police still have not arrested the alleged killers and have refused to meet with his family.
"They don't want to meet us, and the three of them who are murderers are outside," Salman Nabil Ghauri told FOXNews.com. "They are free. Nothing is happening to them. No investigation is running."
The Pakistani Embassy in Washington, D.C., told FOXNews.com that they knew nothing of the incident but were looking into it.
But one embassy official questioned the truth of the report.
'On the face of it, this appears to be exaggerated,...' said the Pakistani official who asked not to be named. '...This does not happen over there...'
The official said that minorities are very well represented in the Pakistani Parliament, and if someone in fact were murdered for not converting to Islam, '...it would have been reported hugely...'
The embassy official added, '...if an incident of that nature happened over there, there would have to be an investigation.'"
In every above case these were your own citizens. Not migrants from another land with another skin color.
Think a white guy like me would feel AT ALL safe attending mass at the local Karachi parish? My children? Think again.
Would I be accosted for wearing the Cross Of Jesus Christ around my neck if out among the Pakistani public? Yup. You could count on it. I would.
Needless to say, I'd demure proudly displaying my religion in deference to simple and safe realism.
I've got much, much more where those came from. America is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious society. Maybe the foremost by population in the world today. Only Russia might come close.
Go turn in your THINK TANK badgie. You are undeserving.
Racist, eh?
"ETHNIC GROUPS
...white 79.96%, black 12.85%, Asian 4.43%, Amerindian and Alaska native 0.97%, native Hawaiian and other Pacific islander 0.18%, two or more races 1.61% (July 2007 estimate)
note:a separate listing for Hispanic is not included because the US Census Bureau considers Hispanic to mean persons of Spanish/Hispanic/Latino origin including those of Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, Dominican Republic, Spanish, and Central or South American origin living in the US who may be of any race or ethnic group (white, black, Asian, etc.); about 15.1% of the total US population is Hispanic..."
C.I.A. World Factbook 2007 Census
Maybe you mean religious discrimination?
"RELIGIONS
Protestant 51.3%, Roman Catholic 23.9%, Mormon 1.7%, other Christian 1.6%, Jewish 1.7%, Buddhist 0.7%, Muslim 0.6%, other or unspecified 2.5%, unaffiliated 12.1%, none 4% (2007 est.)"
Let's look at Pakistan, shall we?
Ethnicities?
"Punjabi 44.68%, Pashtun (Pathan) 15.42%, Sindhi 14.1%, Sariaki 8.38%, Muhajirs 7.57%, Balochi 3.57%, other 6.28%"
Religion?
"Muslim 95% (Sunni 75%, Shia 20%), other (includes Christian and Hindu) 5%"
Where do you think it's more likely to find racial, ethnic, and/or religious discrimination, Mr. "think tank" roadrunner?
313,000,000 million Americans wake up each morning. 0.6% of them or 1,800,000 are muslim. Do you think they fear this-
Pakistan City Tense After 'Blaspheming' Christians Shot-BBC July 20, 2010
"Police reinforcements have been called in the Pakistani city of Faisalabad a day after two Christians charged with blasphemy were shot dead outside court.
Clashes broke out in the city, home to a large Christian community, after the brothers were gunned down.
Pastor Rashid Emmanuel, 32, and Sajid, 24, were accused of writing a pamphlet critical of the Prophet Muhammad; a rights activist said they were framed.
Pakistan's controversial blasphemy law carries the death penalty.
A police officer who was escorting the brothers from a district court on Monday was critically wounded when the unidentified gunmen opened fire and then escaped.
No-one in his right mind would issue a derogatory pamphlet against the Prophet and put his name and address on it
At least 10 people were reportedly injured as stone-throwing and rioting broke out in a Christian neighbourhood of the city afterwards.
Police reinforcements from nearby districts have been called in to restore order.
The brothers, from the Waris Pura area of Faisalabad, were arrested earlier this month.
The complainant in the case, a local trader, Khurram Shehzad, alleged that one of his employees was handed a pamphlet by someone at Faisalabad's general bus stand.
He said the paper contained disrespectful remarks about the Prophet Muhammad.
Police told the BBC the pamphlet had apparently been signed by the two brothers, whose addresses and mobile phone numbers were also given.
But Atif Jameel, spokesman for the Pakistan Minorities Democratic Foundation, told the BBC: "No-one in his right mind would issue a derogatory pamphlet against the Prophet and put his name and address on it.
'This appears to be a conspiracy against peace and religious harmony in Faisalabad.'
Earlier this month, several hundred demonstrators marched to the Waris Pura slum, which is home to nearly 100,000 Christians, and demanded the death penalty for the two accused.
Although no-one has ever been executed under Pakistan's blasphemy law, about 10 accused have been murdered before the completion of their trial, according to a BBC Urdu correspondent in Lahore.
Dozens more are living in exile to avoid punishment under the legislation."
Or this-
Assassinated Pakistani Official Supported Religious Tolerance-ABC News March 2, 2011
"Shahbaz Bhatti, the minority affairs minister and the only Christian member of the cabinet, was driving from his mother's house in Islamabad when gunmen pumped more than 20 bullets through the door and windshield of his car, according to eyewitnesses and the police. The gunmen then calmly dropped dozens of flyers at the scene that threatened the same fate to anyone who criticizes laws that are supported by Pakistan's religious political parties but widely condemned by secular Pakistanis as tools to persecute religious minorities.
'This is a lesson to the world of infidel crusaders and Jews, and their allies in the Muslim world," the pamphlet said, signed by the previously unknown group Movement of Taliban al Qaeda in Punjab. "Either you or us will live in this world.'"
Or this?
Christian Man Raped, Murdered For Refusing To Convert, Family Says-FOX News June 13, 2009
"On that farmhouse four days there we all, Christians and family, were searching for him," the Rev. Bhatti said. "I was with him. I was searching for him."
After police discovered the body, Ghauri's death was declared a homicide and the family filed paperwork with the Atta Shaheed police station in their small village, Adda 44SB. But Ghauri's brother said police still have not arrested the alleged killers and have refused to meet with his family.
"They don't want to meet us, and the three of them who are murderers are outside," Salman Nabil Ghauri told FOXNews.com. "They are free. Nothing is happening to them. No investigation is running."
The Pakistani Embassy in Washington, D.C., told FOXNews.com that they knew nothing of the incident but were looking into it.
But one embassy official questioned the truth of the report.
'On the face of it, this appears to be exaggerated,...' said the Pakistani official who asked not to be named. '...This does not happen over there...'
The official said that minorities are very well represented in the Pakistani Parliament, and if someone in fact were murdered for not converting to Islam, '...it would have been reported hugely...'
The embassy official added, '...if an incident of that nature happened over there, there would have to be an investigation.'"
In every above case these were your own citizens. Not migrants from another land with another skin color.
Think a white guy like me would feel AT ALL safe attending mass at the local Karachi parish? My children? Think again.
Would I be accosted for wearing the Cross Of Jesus Christ around my neck if out among the Pakistani public? Yup. You could count on it. I would.
Needless to say, I'd demure proudly displaying my religion in deference to simple and safe realism.
I've got much, much more where those came from. America is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious society. Maybe the foremost by population in the world today. Only Russia might come close.
Go turn in your THINK TANK badgie. You are undeserving.