US 'would lose a war with China fought in the Pacific

[F-22Raptor]

You've been "gathering for 7 decades" already, what US does is just a childplay, it's no more than a joke in our eyes.


You overestimated US, they never get enough balls in front of China, they can't even handle North Korea.

You talk a big game, but you can’t back it up with action. Meanwhile the US is at your coastlines almost daily and Taiwan is a de facto independent state.

 

[beijingwalker]

You talk a big game, but you can’t back it up with action.

I m very happy to see US for actions, but you always let us down, US just behaves like an unruly child, wasting time and money for stupid games and China just concentrates on developing and improving herself all across the board, you can keep playing your dumb games and one day you'll wake up and see being left behind in so many things for so far already.

 

[tower9]

Dream on, China produces everything on this planet, US produces nothing, see who will be contained and isolated, even EU doesn't follow US as it used to do. China can beat US in 1950 in Korea when China was one of the poorest region in the world, now China is among one of the richest.

This coronavirus showed the world that how fast and efficient that China can mobilise all the available rescources all across China with all China's manufacturing might in a very short span of time to fight a crisis.
Also this virus exposed US being a paper tiger, failed in everything.

Sure, China may win the battle but it will lose the war because its economic development will crash and it will be politically isolated and contained. China beat the US to a standstill in Korea but then it stayed dirt poor and had frequent famines until Deng opened up the country and learned from the West.

 

[Naram_Sin]

You overestimated US, they never get enough balls in front of China, they can't even handle North Korea.

There are many unknown variables, making it difficult to formulate an accurate picture.

look at history and you,l never see a more warmongering nation, it 'sustains' itself through war, extortion, brain drain, coersion.

I may indeed be wrong in quantifying the US power... but is it the US alone we are talking about here or the collective west ?

 

[925boy]

Funding, funding, funding....

Past US war games have also seen the US defeated by Russia and Iran.

It’s all about funding the US military machine. People should have realized that after the ‘bomber and missile gap’ relative to the Soviet Union that ultimately never existed.

So what are you saying then? you didnt answer the main question. You havent given any good argument suggesting why US wont lose to China as this article suggests..

why fight a war ? china already won from USA without firing a single shot . US is on decline and they will try to drag china in mess . stay alert US will be next UK with in 30 years .

Insightful comment. I believe this is happening in multiple parts of the world, including the Middle East. Its sort of a "silent loss by lack of real deterrence"

 

[beijingwalker]

Sure, China may win the battle but it will lose the war because its economic development will crash and it will be politically isolated and contained. China beat the US to a standstill in Korea but then it stayed dirt poor and had frequent famines until Deng opened up the country and learned from the West.

Today's China was not the China 70 years ago, back then China just finished a devastating civil war the year before and was unable to produce anything and had a very weak industrial base to support a large scale war and had no logistics to start with, now China can mobilise and produce everything and US can't, the shoe is on the other foot.

 

[Han Patriot]

There will be a war. US forces in East Asia will likely be sacrificed but it will be worth it as China's coastal provinces will be devastated and the country will be globally condemned and politically isolated as a pariah after. All MNC's will pull out of China and China will be contained like Iran has been.

It's not so simple my friend.

What we’re doing is gathering intelligence, especially the electronic order of battle.

Yah keep on gathering, you can't even knock fat boy Kim down. Lol

 

[vishwambhar]

USA China war will be the end of Chinese military machine and bleed USA so bad that it would become second tier economic power..... Iraq and Afghanistan wars have ruined their economy so badly one can just imagine it's fate after war with Dragon.....

After this war Asia will see the influx of new Asian numero unos like Japan, south Korea, India.....

 

[gambit]

Just another masturbatory article.

Exercise details are secrets like how ICBM technical data or how the president communicate with the military are secrets. It is at that level. So when a 'military official' said the US will 'lose' the war, in what context is that loss? Unless the details are divulged, articles like these are analogous to Playboy playmates with their shallow bios: attractive but ultimately meaningless.

 

[beijingwalker]

Just another masturbatory article.

Exercise details are secrets like how ICBM technical data or how the president communicate with the military are secrets. It is at that level. So when a 'military official' said the US will 'lose' the war, in what context is that loss? Unless the details are divulged, articles like these are analogous to Playboy playmates with their shallow bios: attractive but ultimately meaningless.

The study is from US, so maybe US is masterbating.

 

[tower9]

The study is from US, so maybe US is masterbating.

The US military is constantly scaremongering and putting out self-defeatist doomsday scenarios in order to secure more funding. Don't read too much into it. The US is still many times more well armed than China and has China ringed with military bases.

 

[beijingwalker]

The US military is constantly scaremongering and putting out self-defeatist doomsday scenarios in order to secure more funding. Don't read too much into it. The US is still many times more well armed than China and has China ringed with military bases.

They can keep on playing whatever games they want, we care more about developing China more. They can keep crying and chest thumping.

 

[zectech]

China would win in a war in the Pacific in 2030, so long as secret USA toys are not used in a war.

For China to win against US, ASATs would be needed in large quantities. Much of USA secret weapons are Sats.

 

[gambit]

The US military is constantly scaremongering and putting out self-defeatist doomsday scenarios in order to secure more funding.

Riiiiiiggghhttt...Such is unique to the US. I guess that 'one hundred years of humiliation' that the Party constantly harps on is nothing similar.

 

[tower9]

Riiiiiiggghhttt...Such is unique to the US. I guess that 'one hundred years of humiliation' that the Party constantly harps on is nothing similar.

The PLA is far more opaque about their funding. Most of their internal conversations are kept private.