US worried over Pak perception of India's role in Afghanistan

[TechLahore]

Foxbat: Yes, because you forget that China also pumps several hundred billion dollars annually to fund the US deficit. This is China spending from its 2+T in foreign reserves to help the world, since the US is a net spender.

 

[VCheng]

You seriously lacks knowledge i guess. Today the world is recognizing India not because of 1.2T but they estimate the future. Today even 20 world countries are ahead of the India in economy but if you consider the next decade and compare the estimate, growth of those 20 they may fall back and thats how the business and economy of any country are rated. Now i see all your comments are useless for me. EU is falling sharply comparing to India and i would like to hear the comparison of India and SP from a much knowledgeable person. There are plenty of Video and business article from known business leads about India current and future.

I hope the original intentions to say "India is growth engine" is about the future.

True, but it would be appropriate here to remind myself of the old saying about not counting chickens before they are hatched!

I will agree that India is on the right track in many fields with incubating eggs, but it has along way to go yet in even getting on the correct path in many others, just like many other countries in the region.

 

[TechLahore]

Im bad in economics.. but enlighten me with how is GDP related to the tag "growth engine".??

World GDP represents what the world produces. What is produced is ultimately consumed. If you are a huge consumer, you then drive the world economy and are a "growth engine", because as you increase your consumption, you increase the ability for the world to produce more... thus increasing GDP. Thus the cycle goes.

India's deficit essentially means that the net of its imports/exports results in world economies gaining about $110B annually from India. Or in other words, that is the amount that India contributes on a net basis to support other people's GDP (subtract your own, at 1.2T, but it doesn't change the argument since the global GDP is so large). The point is that this contribution isn't substantial. So to call India the "world's growth engine" is a bit ridiculous.

Please note that I don't have any interest in deriding or insulting anyone. But when people get on their high horse and start to act high and mighty it gets to me. In this case, the Emperor has no clothes and I feel obliged to point that out.

 

[Ammyy]

Are you for real???? Each one of the things you have said above is crap.

http://www.kashmirglobal.com/content/un-says-kashmir-remains-unsc’s-agenda-0

EU wants Kashmir resolved using OIC The Dawn

Your first source about Kashmir remain in dispute list but can you tell me when Kashmir last time discussed in UN ???? and i think "India Rising" told this only

Other source refereeing to OIC .....
IOC ... what is this ????? any on know that ?? I this matter to India what they saying or not ?????

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Are you for real???? Each one of the things you have said above is crap.

http://www.kashmirglobal.com/content/un-says-kashmir-remains-unsc’s-agenda-0...

...I am sorry to say this, but you are completely clueless. I can't waste any further time with you. Please read the above and hopefully that will start your education.

@ your tangential logic. You cannot answer one simple question.

Why has UN not discussed 'The India-Pakistan Question' since November 1965?

اقوام متحدہ کی بحث کیوں نہیں 1965 ء نومبر کے بعد سے 'پاکستان اور بھارت کے سوال'؟

Answer the question. Please.

 

[TechLahore]

Your first source about Kashmir remain in dispute list but can you tell me when Kashmir last time discussed in UN ???? and i think "India Rising" told this only

No he didn't say this only. I think you need to read his post again only. Keep a dictionary handy only.

Other source refereeing to OIC .....
IOC ... what is this ????? any on know that ?? I this matter to India what they saying or not ?????[/QUOTE]

OIC represents 57 countries of the world, including economies such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran etc. Many of these countries have per capita GDPs 10-30 times yours. So if you are unaware of a third of the world's countries and don't think much of people who give their citizens 30 times what you are able to give yours, then I think it speaks volumes of your ignorance, conceit and mental incompetence. You hang on tight to those qualities.

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Do you have figures to back up this monumental bull$hit, or is it a "free standing" structure?

India runs an annual deficit averaging $110B dollars. Net-net, this is what the world receives from India after all is said and done. Contrast this with the size of the world GDP, which is currently $70.1 Trillion. India's GDP, with 20+% of the world's population, is about 1.5% of World GDP, at $1.2 Trillion. Your exports are $165B, whereas the exports of tiny Singapore stand at $269B.

CIA - The World Factbook -- Country Comparison :: Exports

How exactly are you the "the engine of growth for the whole world"?

I don't have much knowledge of economics but this might help:

A New World Economy - Courtesy: Peshwa

I request my fellow Indians to help me with this.

 

[Ammyy]

No he didn't say this only. I think you need to read his post again only. Keep a dictionary handy only.

Other source refereeing to OIC .....
IOC ... what is this ????? any on know that ?? I this matter to India what they saying or not ?????

OIC represents 57 countries of the world, including economies such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Iran etc. Many of these countries have per capita GDPs 10-30 times yours. So if you are unaware of a third of the world's countries and don't think much of people who give their citizens 30 times what you are able to give yours, then I think it speaks volumes of your ignorance, conceit and mental incompetence. You hang on tight to those qualities.[/QUOTE]

Country who have more than 170 million muslim population
(I think second biggest) is not a member of this muslim group called OIC so do you think its credible ?????

Just go and watch the record of those countries who are member you find out answer of your question.

 

[SpArK]

I don't have much knowledge of economics but this might help:

A New World Economy

I request my fellow Indians to help me with this.

U.S. trade deals recast India as job-growth engine - The Denver Post

 

[India Rising]

Pak laments world's 'deafening silence' over Kashmir killings

WASHINGTON – Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi Wednesday regretted the international community’s “deafening silence” over the brutal suppression of the Kashmiri people, as he sought justice for them. “Any person of conscience cannot ignore the use of brute force against the defenceless Kashmiri youth,” he told a big gathering at Brookings Institute, a Washington-based American think-tank.
The United States and other so-called defenders of human rights have not said a single word about the Indian security forces’ clampdown on Kashmir where people have been staging mass demonstrations in support of their right to self-determination.
Qureshi said that Pakistan desired a peaceful and stable South Asia, but that prospect was endangered by the recent events in Kashmir, where more than 100 people, mostly teenagers, have been gunned down by security forces.
“Their mothers are rightly bewildered at the deafening silence of the international community,” the Foreign Minister said.
“Wisdom proposes that the aspirations of any people cannot be suppressed by the use of force. Such will be with the legitimate rights of the Kashmiri people. It is in the interest of lasting peace, stability and development of the region, that the US works for resolution of disputes in South Asia. This has to begin with justice for the Kashmiri people,” Qureshi added.

Pak laments world's 'deafening silence' over Kashmir killings | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online

 

[mjnaushad]

@ your tangential logic. You cannot answer one simple question.

Why has UN not discussed 'The India-Pakistan Question' since November 1965?

اقوام متحدہ کی بحث کیوں نہیں 1965 ء نومبر کے بعد سے 'پاکستان اور بھارت کے سوال'؟

Answer the question. Please.

Just for your information.....


GOOGLE TRANSLATOR SUCKS

 

[CaptainJackSparrow]

Just for your information.....


GOOGLE TRANSLATOR SUCKS

lol ok.

 

[TechLahore]

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@ your tangential logic. You cannot answer one simple question.

Why has UN not discussed 'The India-Pakistan Question' since November 1965?

اقوام متحدہ کی بحث کیوں نہیں 1965 ء نومبر کے بعد سے 'پاکستان اور بھارت کے سوال'؟

Answer the question. Please.

By "tangential" if you mean solid logic with facts that tears the original claim apart, then yes, I wholeheartedly agree.

As for when Kashmir came up last at the UN, here's a link from the Times of India:

Pakistan raises Kashmir issue at UN committee, India reacts strongly - The Times of India

Also, this question you are asking wreaks of extreme ignorance by the way. The issue is not that Pakistan needs to get another UN resolution on Kashmir. The issue is that the current UN resolutions are not being adhered to. Right or wrong, Pakistan has decided that the best way to support Kashmiris is to do exactly that. Support Kashmiris. In 63 years of independence, India has not been able to extinguish the fire in Kashmir and it is one of the world's most heavily militarized regions, with something like 600,000 Indian troops sitting there.

You will do well to go back and read the original post made by your Indian friend. He claimed that the UN no longer recognized Kashmir on their "list", that the OIC had not recently condemned India on Kashmir and that Iran didn't matter. Those three statements are all bullshit. I addressed them by posting links to dozens of news stories. If in your disappointment at seeing all this, the best you can come up with is your post above, then I'm done with the exchange with you.

 

[VCheng]

U.S. trade deals recast India as job-growth engine - The Denver Post

There are two important things to keep in mind in this discussion: India has the largest number of english speaking people entering the workforce until about 2050, and the buying power of its internal market is growing.

On the other hand two other facts are important also: that rapid increase in workforce will not mean much if there are no jobs for them, and the internal market will be likely taken over by multi-nationals, not local companies.

 

[foxbat]

Foxbat: Yes, because you forget that China also pumps several hundred billion dollars annually to fund the US deficit. This is China spending from its 2+T in foreign reserves to help the world, since the US is a net spender.

But then thats investments in treasury bonds which we are not factoring in anyway.

Also that will hold true for all countries that have a surplus trade balance. Say Japan, with a surplus of approx $ 50 billion.. Takes away from the world and is still the 3rd largest economy with a significant impact on world economy..

I would think that gross imports would be a better metric / truer reflection than balance of payments..


Anyway I agree to your point of current numbers being miniscule compared to world numbers, but the thing I would remember here is the trajectory. While most of the countries contributing towards 60% of that $ 70 trillion are on a downward trend, only a few like China Brazil, Rusia and India have both the size and an upward trend to make a difference. Now the term growth engine for the world does use a lot of creative liberty , but I guess the intent was to highlight the trend and prospects. Counting chickens before they are hatched is bad, but then so is ignoring a trend..