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US worried over Pak perception of India's role in Afghanistan

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foxbat said:
when was Kashmir last discussed in UNSC?
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He was saying that Kashmir is not even on the dispute list, which is wrong and again only reported by your media ( which is known to report false information and exaggerate things)
 
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TechLahore said:
Do you have figures to back up this monumental bull$hit, or is it a "free standing" structure?



How exactly are you the "the engine of growth for the whole world"?
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Engine of growth as in a world which has seen a recession and needs India's help in revival of their economy as evident by the intense lobbying and deal offers that are seen here in forum threads on it itself.

Evident from the fact that a majority of IT and service oriented businesses are depended upon this nation as of now, which is infact the life line of the present day scenario.

Evident from the pretty good fact that the growth rate has been getting stagnant for the developed nations but the graph is on high for countries which are on top of the "developing nations" tag.
 
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Asim Aquil said:
You can cry me a river all you want, India's involvement is certified by the fact that many Indian spies have been arrested. Of course, India does have the advantage of using our own nationals or even better, Afghani nationals against us
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Perfect...so by the same logic, Pakistan and its Army and ISI are obviously responsible for a multitude of terror attacks in India and should be brought to justice....

Case and point...Kasab and Headley's direct quotes indicating the same....
But wait...Pakistan does have the advantage that its using "non-state" actors against us....

I really didnt think it would be this simple.

Do you remember the guy that was caught when the Lahore Police station was taken hostage? He belonged to Afghanistan, not Pakistan. Obviously Afghanis are knee deep in the terrorism against Pakistan and India is their new best friend.
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India's has committed to development in Afghanistan....the progress of these infrastructure projects should be enough proof of our work and intentions there....

If there is any tangible proof of an "ulterior" motive in Indo-Afghan relations other than existence of consulates in Afg or uncircumcized genatalia of the terrorists, Im sure NATO and the US would be all ears to remove this roadblock that has cost the US economy dearly through failed efforts in Afg and Pak.


We have the ultimate test, kick India out of Afghanistan and see if the terrorism continues. Yours is a hate ridden government that gets its vote banks by anti-Pakistani sentiments. Terrorism against Pakistan is the only next logical step for such people.
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How about this for a test.....Attack the Afghan Taliban and the various safe heavens for the Taliban in Pakistan immediately....dismantle the terror infrastructure aimed at Indian Kashmir, stop radicalizing your citizens and reign in the ISI....then see if terrorism continues....

After all this is the WAR ON TERROR....NOT....War on India's role in Afghanistan!

Also please note, we don't need to convince anybody. We will go into Afghanistan and bomb each and every Indian governmental structure if need be.
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Honestly...this is the most reckless statement you have ever made....not worth commenting....
 
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BENNY said:
Engine of growth as in a world which has seen a recession and needs India's help in revival of their economy as evident by the intense lobbying and deal offers that are seen here in forum threads on it itself.

Evident from the fact that a majority of IT and service oriented businesses are depended upon this nation as of now, which is infact the life line of the present day scenario.

Evident from the pretty good fact that the growth rate has been getting stagnant for the developed nations but the graph is on high for countries which are on top of the "developing nations" tag.
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Since you don't have a response to any of the hard numbers I quoted, and you can't tell me that 1.2T of a global GDP of 70+T is representative of the "world's growth engine" you are now embarking on subjective rhetoric. Your obfuscation riddled post makes the facts pretty clear.

As for nations wanting India to buy their stuff. Sure. Of course they want that. But as of now, India's purchasing power is quite limited when compared with much smaller countries. You are $100B behind even tiny little Singapore, so calling yourself the "world's growth engine" is not just conceited and untrue, it is also quite comical.
 
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India Rising said:
what are you talking about........UN ?? which recently deleted the kashmir from disputed list ... who never had the discussion about kashmir for last 30 + years ..
OIC ?? when was the last time they uttered K- word ??
Iran ?? does they matter to us ??
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Are you for real???? Each one of the things you have said above is crap.

UN Says Kashmir Remains on UNSC's Agenda
http://www.kashmirglobal.com/content/un-says-kashmir-remains-unsc’s-agenda-0

EU wants Kashmir resolved using OIC
EU wants Kashmir resolved using OIC The Dawn

OIC Contact group adopt resolution on Kashmir
http://www.jammu-kashmir.com/archives/archives2006/kashmir20060921b.html

http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=204265

OIC's position on Kashmir is parallel to UN's: Ihsanoglu
http://www.pakistaninewspapers.info/archive/09/oics-position-on-kashmir-is-parallel-to-un-ihsanoglu/

http://wfol.tv/news/5345-new-york-oic-sec-gen-meets-kashmir-group.html

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=59773

http://server.kbri-islamabad.go.id/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=264&Itemid=43

http://www.allvoices.com/contribute...onal-community-to-help-settle-kashmir-dispute

http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=227357

http://www.expressindia.com/messages.php?newsid=59773

http://www.latestnewsonline.net/india/india-dismayed-at-oic-stance-on-mumbai-attack/11804.html

http://www.jammu-kashmir.com/archives/archives2008/kashmir20080618a.html

http://arabnews.com/opinion/columns/article146210.ece

http://altnews.asia/content/2010/09...r-laws-and-demilitarize-kashmir-dr-abdul-ruff

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...nister-backs-pakistan-s-position-kashmir.html

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ial-envoy-for-Kashmir/articleshow/5080090.cms

http://www.ajk.gov.pk/index.php?opt...ardar-attique-ahmed-khan-&catid=2:latest-news

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/node/73344/print

http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/2010/Nov/16/support-kashmir-iran-to-muslims-37.asp

http://www.hindustantimes.com/Iran-s-supreme-leader-backs-Kashmir-struggle/Article1-628346.aspx

http://www.paktribune.com/news/index.shtml?107806

http://www.mofa.gov.pk/Indonesia/contents.aspx?type=statements&id=5

And as for Iran not mattering to you, read the following:

Iran Is Key To India’s ‘Look West’ Policy: Indian Foreign Secy
http://www.asianage.com/india/iran-key-india’s-‘look-west’-policy-foreign-secy-519

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JD30Ak02.html

I am sorry to say this, but you are completely clueless. I can't waste any further time with you. Please read the above and hopefully that will start your education.
 
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TechLahore said:
Since you don't have a response to any of the hard numbers I quoted, and you can't tell me that 1.2T of a global GDP of 70+T is representative of the "world's growth engine" you are now embarking on subjective rhetoric. Your obfuscation riddled post makes the facts pretty clear.

As for nations wanting India to buy their stuff. Sure. Of course they want that. But as of now, India's purchasing power is quite limited when compared with much smaller countries. You are $100B behind even tiny little Singapore, so calling yourself the "world's growth engine" is not just conceited and untrue, it is also quite comical.
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Im bad in economics.. but enlighten me with how is GDP related to the tag "growth engine".??

I thought rapid strides on the manufacturing and services sectors' value chain, conducive investment environment and adequate capital ,access to markets, resources and technology,competitiveness etc were the key terms..

Anyway a lecture on it will be more welcome coz i can learn a few things upon it.
 
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TechLahore said:
Since you don't have a response to any of the hard numbers I quoted, and you can't tell me that 1.2T of a global GDP of 70+T is representative of the "world's growth engine" you are now embarking on subjective rhetoric. Your obfuscation riddled post makes the facts pretty clear.

As for nations wanting India to buy their stuff. Sure. Of course they want that. But as of now, India's purchasing power is quite limited when compared with much smaller countries. You are $100B behind even tiny little Singapore, so calling yourself the "world's growth engine" is not just conceited and untrue, it is also quite comical.
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This and the previous post with hard numbers is worthy of special mention as an example of how to discuss and debate properly.

Kudos to you Sir!

I hope the responses are comparably concise and coherent to support other points of view.
 
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TechLahore said:
Do you have figures to back up this monumental bull$hit, or is it a "free standing" structure?

India runs an annual deficit averaging $110B dollars. Net-net, this is what the world receives from India after all is said and done. Contrast this with the size of the world GDP, which is currently $70.1 Trillion.
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I am not too sure I understand this metric. So India has a contribution of of $110B in the form of annual deficit (or what the world gets from India), which I agree is miniscule compared to the world GDP

But then China has an actual surplus of approx $ 200 B , or this is what it takes from the world by the above definition. By your logic, India contributes $ 310 billion more than China towards rest of the world. Does that mean India's contribution is more towards world economy than China.. Doesnt seem right...
 
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TechLahore said:
Since you don't have a response to any of the hard numbers I quoted, and you can't tell me that 1.2T of a global GDP of 70+T is representative of the "world's growth engine" you are now embarking on subjective rhetoric. Your obfuscation riddled post makes the facts pretty clear.

As for nations wanting India to buy their stuff. Sure. Of course they want that. But as of now, India's purchasing power is quite limited when compared with much smaller countries. You are $100B behind even tiny little Singapore, so calling yourself the "world's growth engine" is not just conceited and untrue, it is also quite comical.
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You seriously lacks knowledge i guess. Today the world is recognizing India not because of 1.2T but they estimate the future. Today even 20 world countries are ahead of the India in economy but if you consider the next decade and compare the estimate, growth of those 20 they may fall back and thats how the business and economy of any country are rated. Now i see all your comments are useless for me. EU is falling sharply comparing to India and i would like to hear the comparison of India and SP from a much knowledgeable person. There are plenty of Video and business article from known business leads about India current and future.

I hope the original intentions to say "India is growth engine" is about the future.
 
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