US warns Russia 'this is not Rocky IV' as Putin puts fighter jets on combat alert

[ChineseTiger1986]

Do you think the US would attempt to pay back the debt when you associate yourself with the enemy (Russia) and conspire against them?

To buy trillion of US T-bond is just a way to replace dollar, both China and Russia are behind this.

 

[-SINAN-]

@Sinan @T-123456

In a situation like this can't Turkey shot down the Bosphorus for russian war ships ?

Nope, once i read full script of "Treaty of Lausanne". It's very clear.

Unless Turkey is on war with Russia or via NATO. We can't deny access of any ship (be it merchant or war) belongs to any country through Bosporus.

 

[Developereo]

If Russia decides to militarily intervene in Ukraine, the Yankees ain't doing jack.

I agree that Russia will probably annex Crimea, leaving the rest of Ukraine to the West, and that the US will do nothing substantial.

It's not because the US is weak or scared, but the US public simply isn't ready for another war -- and certainly not over Crimea.

 

[pigtaker]

Do you think the US would attempt to pay back the debt when you associate yourself with the enemy (Russia) and conspire against them?

We never expect US will pay off the debt in its current situation, and we hope it will never be capable of doing that, which means it will become weaker alone the time.
And now we view Russia as an ally rather than enemy, we have common target which is US

 

[SQ8]

That is very true.

America is an expert in "playing the game". Even Sun Tzu would be shocked at how they play geopolitics.

Russia is a lot more straightforward. And I have to admire Russia, they don't take crap from anybody.

For all of China's economic power, our military assertiveness pales in comparison to a former superpower like Russia.

Russia always means business.

Perhaps because the Land of Sun Tzu follows the core creed of the great general:..

"the victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory."

 

[Developereo]

Let's laugh a little

OK, I heard a joke on American TV.

"What do you call the escaped Ukrainian President?"

"Chicken Kiev"

(Sorry, not taking sides -- just funny.)

 

[flamer84]

OK, I heard a joke on American TV.

"What do you call the escaped Ukrainian President?"

"Chicken Kiev"

(Sorry, not taking sides -- just funny.)

How do you call an ukrainian ? A partisan.

How do you call 2 ukrainians ? A partisan group with a traitor in it.

 

[senheiser]

Do you think the US would attempt to pay back the debt when you associate yourself with the enemy (Russia) and conspire against them?

if china let these bonds collapse it will seriously damage the dollar

 

[genmirajborgza786]

Hagel Warns Russia Not to Intervene in Ukraine

BRUSSELS — Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel warned Russia on Thursday to stay out of the turmoil in Ukraine, while NATO defense ministers issued repeated statements meant to show support for the new leadership in Kiev.

“We expect other nations to respect Ukraine’s sovereignty and avoid provocative action,” Mr. Hagel said after the ministers met at NATO headquarters here. “That’s why I’m closely watching Russia’s military exercises along the Ukrainian border, which they just announced yesterday.”

The Russian defense minister, Sergey K. Shoigu, was quoted by state news media saying the exercises were meant to “check combat readiness of armed forces in western and central military districts as well as several branches of the armed forces.” Though General Shoigu did not mention Ukraine, Western officials interpreted the exercises as a warning from Moscow.

Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the secretary general of the NATO, posted Twitter messages Thursday morning warning Russia not to intervene in Ukraine after armed men seized a government headquarters in the Crimea region of southern Ukraine and raised the Russian flag.

“I urge Russia not to take any action that can escalate tension or create misunderstanding,” Mr. Rasmussen wrote on Twitter. “I’m concerned about developments in Crimea.” In a news conference later in the day, Mr. Rasmussen called the Crimea events “dangerous and irresponsible.”

The ministers meeting in Brussels issued similar warnings on Wednesday, saying that the alliance would “continue to support Ukrainian sovereignty and independence, territorial integrity, democratic development and the principle of inviolability of frontiers, as key factors of stability and security in Central and Eastern Europe and on the continent as a whole.”

But it remained unclear how far NATO could go in its admonishments of Russia. Ukraine is not a member of the alliance; the United States tried in 2008 to bring it in, but met with opposition from Germany and France.

The American role in the unfolding events in Ukraine, beyond sending verbal warnings to Russia and supporting financial aid for Ukraine through the International Monetary Fund, is uncertain as well. President Obama has signaled that the bar is high for any American military intervention. Though Mr. Obama is sympathetic to the pro-Western protest movement in Ukraine and to Ukraine’s new leaders, his handling of the crisis has been restrained so far.

Speaking to reporters after the NATO meeting on Ukraine, Mr. Hagel urged Russia “not to take any steps that could be misinterpreted, or lead to miscalculations during a delicate time.” He said he would be talking to General Shoigu soon by telephone.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/28/w...-russia-not-to-intervene-in-ukraine.html?_r=0

Russia Orders Military Drill, Stoking Tensions

MOSCOW—President Vladimir Putin ordered surprise military exercises for 150,000 troops in Russia, including some based close to Ukraine, where protest leaders are scrambling to fill a political vacuum after the ouster of the president.

The test of combat readiness applies to ground, air defense and tank units, as well as Russia's Northern and Baltic fleets. It is among the largest such exercises the country has undertaken in recent years, and comes amid rising displeasure in Moscow with developments in Ukraine.

Russia has used such exercises in the past as a cover for plans to take military action, such as in the days before the war with Georgia in 2008. But U.S. defense officials in Washington said they saw nothing to suggest that Moscow was preparing any offensive moves in this case.

The U.S. military, likewise, hasn't made any force adjustments in response to the exercises, the U.S. officials said.

Since pro-Western protesters in Ukraine overthrew President Viktor Yanukovych last weekend, Russia has recalled its ambassador from Kiev, suspended a $15 billion bailout package, and threatened to raise natural-gas prices and impose trade sanctions. Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said Monday that the situation posed a threat to Russian interests in the former Soviet republic.
Russia's Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu said that the exercise had been planned months ago and had nothing to do with the unrest in Ukraine—in which more than 80 people were killed in clashes with police last week. Another senior defense official told local news agencies that the ministry didn't see the unrest in Ukraine as a reason to delay the exercise.

But the timing of the show of strength is certain to heighten concerns over the possibility of military intervention in Russian-speaking regions of Ukraine, particularly Crimea, where the Russian Black Sea Fleet is based.

Secretary of State John Kerry urged Mr. Putin not to view the uprising in Ukraine as part of some East-West, Cold War-style clash. "This is not 'Rocky IV.' It is not a zero-sum game," the American diplomat said."Any kind of military intervention…would be a grave mistake," Mr. Kerry said. "Obviously, if Russia were to do this, it would be an egregious step against the will of the people."

In Kiev, protest leaders named a national-unity government to replace the ousted president, whose whereabouts remains unknown.
Meanwhile, competing protests involving pro-Russian and pro-Western residents erupted in Simferopol, capital of the Crimea region, where the local parliament discussed the region's future.

"What kind of signal does this send to the most-extreme factions on the ground?" Eugene Rumer, director of the Russia program at the Washington-based Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. said of the drills. "This is likely only to inflame passions rather than cool them."

The ruble hit new lows against the euro Wednesday and Russian exchanges tumbled.

The last large-scale, military-readiness test was held in May and involved 160,000 soldiers, tanks and aircraft in Siberia. Russia also staged a test of 80,000 soldiers in February 2013, as well as several smaller drills in the Black Sea and in central Russia.

Senior Russian officials in recent days have said that military intervention wasn't on the table; "Such a scenario is impossible," Valentina Matvienko, the head of Russia's upper house, said on Wednesday.

But Andrey Klimov, deputy chairman of the international affairs committee in Russia's Parliament, said Russia had a responsibility to protect its military assets in Ukraine. "The Russian army must be prepared to use our forces to protect its own bases even if there just a 1% probability that something might happen to our people there," he said.
Defense ministers from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, meeting in Brussels, offered their support for "Ukrainian sovereignty and independence, territorial integrity, democratic development and the principle of inviolability of frontiers."

Russian officials in Moscow formally briefed the U.S. military attaché and others on the exercises Tuesday, using established channels, the U.S. defense officials said. Since then, the Russians haven't taken any unexpected steps that would raise U.S. concerns, the officials said.

At a news conference, NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen didn't explicitly criticize the military drill, nor did he address the prospect of Ukraine joining the North Atlantic Treaty
Organization—something Russia vehemently opposes. But he reiterated the allies' position that Kiev should be able to make its own security arrangements. "Every nation has an inherent right to decide for itself when it comes to alliances and foreign and security policies," he said.
The newest military tests involve units in Russia's Western and Central military districts.

Russia is broken into four large military districts spanning from the Far East to its European borders. The western district is based in St. Petersburg and stretches from Russia's western arctic to its border with Ukraine and Belarus. The central district is based in Yekaterinburg and stretches from Siberia to just west of the Ural Mountains.

The exercises began Wednesday and are scheduled to last until Monday. They will be conducted in two parts, Mr. Shoigu said. The first will involve spot checks of combat readiness. The second will involve operational and tactical exercises with the 6th Army, based in St. Petersburg; the 20th Army, based in Voronezh, less than 200 miles from the Ukrainian border; and the 2nd Army in Samara, near the Kazakh border.

The Supreme Commander [Vladimir Putin] has ordered a test of the ability of our troops to respond in crisis situations that threaten the military security of the country including terrorist, biological and man-made threats," Mr. Shoigu said, according to the Interfax news agency.
Ruslan Pukhov, director of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies in Moscow, said that Russia was likely preparing itself should the situation in Ukraine worsen

"The Russian political and military leadership must be prepared for different scenarios. This does not mean they will use them. But the whole experience of the last 20 years shows that one must be prepared for any possibility, up to military intervention," he said.

Poland's foreign minister Radoslaw Sikorski recalled the Budapest agreement of 1994, under which Ukraine gave up its nuclear arsenal after the fall of communism.

"Russia, along with the United States of America and United Kingdom, agreed to guarantee Ukraine's territorial integrity in exchange for the latter's decision to cease being nuclear superpower," he said. "I think we should be heatedly reminding our Russian partners of that fact."

"The Russian political and military leadership must be prepared for different scenarios. This does not mean they will use them. But the whole experience of the last 20 years shows that one must be prepared for any possibility, up to military intervention," he said.

—Julian E. Barnes and Adam Entous contributed to this article.

Corrections & Amplifications

Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov was speaking on Wednesday. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said he was speaking on Thursday.

Russia Orders Military Exercises Amid Ukraine Tension - WSJ.com

 

[Fukuoka]

JEWS again making thousands of people die for their eternal plan to dominate the world

I agree that Russia will probably annex Crimea, leaving the rest of Ukraine to the West, and that the US will do nothing substantial.

It's not because the US is weak or scared, but the US public simply isn't ready for another war -- and certainly not over Crimea.

Actually they give something that already belong to Russia

Problem for Russia is that they lose their credibility, so JEW USA can attack other countries later and Russia won't be able to intervene

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

if china let these bonds collapse it will seriously damage the dollar

Putin wanna cooperate with China to take the dollar out of the chessboard.

Without the dollar, the King US is losing its Queen.

 

[Commander T]

JEWS again making thousands of people die for their eternal plan to dominate the world


Actually they give something that already belong to Russia

Problem for Russia is that they lose their credibility, so JEW USA can attack other countries later and Russia won't be able to intervene

It,s not just Jews, there are many HIDDEN POWERS working behind the scene to dominate the world...

 

[flamer84]

It,s not just Jews, there are many HIDDEN POWERS working behind the scene to dominate the world...

Little grey men ? Is Putin actually our hero fighting against our new alien overlords ?

 

[Commander T]

Little grey men ? Is Putin actually our hero fighting against our new alien overlords ?

ya ya...whatever.....grey red blue green aliens.........i meant that jews are not alone and i seriously feel that they are prime targets of number 2s.....who are not on the screen right now but have been working and making jews a prime target for whole world.......i mean you seriously believe that if jews control that much as there are rummers then why cannot they change the negative opinion about them in the world.....there have to be someone else who is also present behind the scene.

 

[flamer84]

ya ya...whatever.....grey red blue green aliens.........i meant that jews are not alone and i seriously feel that they are prime targets of number 2s.....who are not on the screen right now but have been working and making jews a prime target for whole world.......i mean you seriously believe that if jews control that much as there are rummers then why cannot they change the negative opinion about them in the world.....there have to be someone else who is also present behind the scene.

I never thought the jews control everything.Anyway,interesting theory.

I am serious,who do you think are the number 2's ?