US Travel Blogger Recounts Horror Story About Being Stalked, Harassed and Trapped in Delhi OYO Room

[randomradio]

what does controlled media have anything to do with anything? if problem is so prevalent in China, then people would spread news among themselves, you don't need government news if your friend, people from work, classmates, neighbor or friends of friends, neighbors of neighbors got raped, it's simply not a prevalent problem. Violent crimes and rapes had never been an issue for westerners and locals alike. I have yet to hear westerners complain about violent crimes or rapes or gropes in China, whether they post their experience inside or outside china.

That's why you are suckers for your own propaganda.

Nobody sits and discusses rape in their living rooms, it has to be discussed in the media. The reason why you think India has a rape problem is because our media talks about it. The only difference is our media is free and our standards are higher, the reasons why we actually discuss this. Even though a lot of rape goes unreported, we still have very low instances of overall crime compared to countries with the same per capita and overpopulation as India. In China, the firewall filters out any news that is bad for its image, nothing more. So people in China cannot discuss it even on social media without the CCP getting wind of it.

In India, Westerners willingly enter and stay in dangerous areas. In China, Westerners do not have the option to stay in dangerous areas due to the ID system. To stay in crappy areas in China, you need to have a state ID to register yourself in a hotel, which tourists will obviously not. Not so in India. Westerners here want to experience the "true" India, but the problem is they do not know how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

There's also the point that China's cities have population controls, so people are not allowed to simply move around, unlike India where the govt allows unlimited immigration. So tourists are generally safe in cities with low internal immigration and the lack of other venues to stay in.

Violent crimes are very frequent in China, that's why you have 4 times more prisoners per 100,000 people than India does. The difference is CCP does a good job hiding it, whereas India's democratic system keeps everything open and transparent.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm

Neither have i.

There was a youtuber who originates from uk who went looking to either get rob or any kind of trouble by walking into back alleys in the dead of night.

Guess wat, nothing

Westerners in China get scammed, not robbed. The Chinese thieves rob only from Chinese. Robbing from Westerners will put them in the police spotlight.

 

[master_13]

That's why you are suckers for your own propaganda.

Nobody sits and discusses rape in their living rooms, it has to be discussed in the media. The reason why you think India has a rape problem is because our media talks about it. The only difference is our media is free and our standards are higher, the reasons why we actually discuss this. Even though a lot of rape goes unreported, we still have very low instances of overall crime compared to countries with the same per capita and overpopulation as India. In China, the firewall filters out any news that is bad for its image, nothing more. So people in China cannot discuss it even on social media without the CCP getting wind of it.

In India, Westerners willingly enter and stay in dangerous areas. In China, Westerners do not have the option to stay in dangerous areas due to the ID system. To stay in crappy areas in China, you need to have a state ID to register yourself in a hotel, which tourists will obviously not. Not so in India. Westerners here want to experience the "true" India, but the problem is they do not know how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

There's also the point that China's cities have population controls, so people are not allowed to simply move around, unlike India where the govt allows unlimited immigration. So tourists are generally safe in cities with low internal immigration and the lack of other venues to stay in.

Violent crimes are very frequent in China, that's why you have 4 times more prisoners per 100,000 people than India does. The difference is CCP does a good job hiding it, whereas India's democratic system keeps everything open and transparent.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/uk/06/prisons/html/nn2page1.stm



Westerners in China get scammed, not robbed. The Chinese thieves rob only from Chinese. Robbing from Westerners will put them in the police spotlight.

1. you say china hid truth to make themselves look better, yet you say China has 4 times more prisoner than India. First, show your link for your claim, second, show that prisoners are there due to violent crimes.
2. Westerners stay in Chinese AirBnB without using ID ALL THE TIME, many westerners go for the true experience stay in Chinese households listed on AirBnB that doesn't require an ID
3. Except for Tibet where you need permission, westerners are not limited where they can go in China, in fact many of them roam around ghettos in China all the time. A famous china bashing video site, China Uncensored on youtube, shows westerners go to China film poor and polluted part of the China ALL THE TIME and then post them on YOUTUBE. So again, no one in China gives a damn if they go to ghetto part of China.
4. Even with westerners checking out Chinese ghettos and film and post on youtube, not a single one of them ever cited violent crime and rape were ever a problem for both locals and westerners alike. Again, westerners travel to china never cite violent crimes and rape as issues in China. Yet, many westerners have personally experienced rape, groping problems in India and post their experience. This travel blogger youtube video and comments in that section are prime examples.
5. Migrants worker in China go to big cities seek factory jobs in China ALL THE TIME, they don't need ID to go to different cities in China, they need ID if they want settle and have their children enrolled in local schools. Cities like Shanghai, Beijing are filled with farmers and people from other cities and villages.

 

[randomradio]

1. you say china hid truth to make themselves look better, yet you say China has 4 times more prisoner than India. First, show your link for your claim, second, show that prisoners are there due to violent crimes.

Already gave the link. You can hide the crimes committed, not the numbers. Also, this number is a China released number, not necessarily the actual number.

2. Westerners stay in Chinese AirBnB without using ID ALL THE TIME, many westerners go for the true experience stay in Chinese households listed on AirBnB that doesn't require an ID

AirBnB typically vets the houses.

3. Except for Tibet where you need permission, westerners are not limited where they can go in China, in fact many of them roam around ghettos in China all the time. A famous china bashing video site, China Uncensored on youtube, shows westerners go to China film poor and polluted part of the China ALL THE TIME and then post them on YOUTUBE. So again, no one in China gives a damn if they go to ghetto part of China.[/quote]

Roaming around ghettos is fine. I even posted a video in this thread where foreigners were walking around in one such ghetto. Find out if they actually stayed in one.

4. Even with westerners checking out Chinese ghettos and film and post on youtube, not a single one of them ever cited violent crime and rape were ever a problem for both locals and westerners alike. Again, westerners travel to china never cite violent crimes and rape as issues in China. Yet, many westerners have personally experienced rape, groping problems in India and post their experience. This travel blogger youtube video and comments in that section are prime examples.

Westerner complaining about being raped and later harassed in China.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/25/china-refuses-to-admit-it-has-a-rape-problem-i-would-know/

https://www.economist.com/china/2016/08/25/a-horror-confronted
The study said there had been 968 cases of sexual abuse of children reported in the media between 2013 and 2015, involving 1,790 victims. Wang Dawei of the People’s Public Security University said that, for every case that was reported, at least seven were not. That would imply China had 12,000 victims of child sexual abuse during that period. “I have never seen this many child sexual-assault cases, ever,” ran one online reaction. “Why is it such things were hardly heard of five years ago,” asked another, “and now seem all over the media?”

In 2015 Fang Xiangming of China Agricultural University, in a report for the World Health Organisation (WHO), estimated, using local studies, that 9.5% of Chinese girls and 8% of boys had suffered some form of sexual abuse by adults, ranging from unwanted contact to rape. For boys the rate is as high as the global norm, for girls it is slightly less so. Because of the country’s size, however, the absolute numbers are staggering. Perhaps 25m people under 18 are victims of abuse.

Would recommend reading both articles.

5. Migrants worker in China go to big cities seek factory jobs in China ALL THE TIME, they don't need ID to go to different cities in China, they need ID if they want settle and have their children enrolled in local schools. Cities like Shanghai, Beijing are filled with farmers and people from other cities and villages.

The ID is for Westerners. I brought up internal migration because many of these people are young Chinese men and have high potential to commit crimes.

 

[Solomon2]

It is from CNN

Pakistan is #6. "World Bank data shows almost one in three married Pakistani women report facing physical violence from their husbands although informal estimates are much higher." - that probably skews the data somewhat; it's much safer to be traveling as a single woman in Pakistan than in India. (India #1 in human trafficking while Pakistan is #10.)

 

[master_13]

Already gave the link. You can hide the crimes committed, not the numbers. Also, this number is a China released number, not necessarily the actual number.



AirBnB typically vets the houses.

3. Except for Tibet where you need permission, westerners are not limited where they can go in China, in fact many of them roam around ghettos in China all the time. A famous china bashing video site, China Uncensored on youtube, shows westerners go to China film poor and polluted part of the China ALL THE TIME and then post them on YOUTUBE. So again, no one in China gives a damn if they go to ghetto part of China.

Roaming around ghettos is fine. I even posted a video in this thread where foreigners were walking around in one such ghetto. Find out if they actually stayed in one.



Westerner complaining about being raped and later harassed in China.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2017/10/25/china-refuses-to-admit-it-has-a-rape-problem-i-would-know/

https://www.economist.com/china/2016/08/25/a-horror-confronted
The study said there had been 968 cases of sexual abuse of children reported in the media between 2013 and 2015, involving 1,790 victims. Wang Dawei of the People’s Public Security University said that, for every case that was reported, at least seven were not. That would imply China had 12,000 victims of child sexual abuse during that period. “I have never seen this many child sexual-assault cases, ever,” ran one online reaction. “Why is it such things were hardly heard of five years ago,” asked another, “and now seem all over the media?”

In 2015 Fang Xiangming of China Agricultural University, in a report for the World Health Organisation (WHO), estimated, using local studies, that 9.5% of Chinese girls and 8% of boys had suffered some form of sexual abuse by adults, ranging from unwanted contact to rape. For boys the rate is as high as the global norm, for girls it is slightly less so. Because of the country’s size, however, the absolute numbers are staggering. Perhaps 25m people under 18 are victims of abuse.

Would recommend reading both articles.



The ID is for Westerners. I brought up internal migration because many of these people are young Chinese men and have high potential to commit crimes.[/QUOTE]

1. If china really wants to hid numbers, they can, they can fudge numbers just like many Indian claim china fudged their GDP numbers. Also, how many are in jail due to violent crimes, not politics or frauds?
2. AirBnB? Not really, many AirBnB hosts in China are in fact in poor part of the city
3. Okay, so china does post in depth studies about rapes, and chinese government DOES NOT hid rape statistics. So if Chinese society (not the government according to the study) under-report rapes, what does that say about India? where girls walking in the ghetto would openly get groped, which of course goes unreported in India, how much of under reporting rape problem would there be in India? The fact is, for most people, open sexual assault like these which happens in India is simply a non-issue in China.

 

[war&peace]

Pakistan is #6. "World Bank data shows almost one in three married Pakistani women report facing physical violence from their husbands although informal estimates are much higher." - that probably skews the data somewhat; it's much safer to be traveling as a single woman in Pakistan than in India. (India #1 in human trafficking while Pakistan is #10.)

No source nothing...

 

[randomradio]

So if Chinese society (not the government according to the study) under-report rapes, what does that say about India? where girls walking in the ghetto would openly get groped, which of course goes unreported in India, how much of under reporting rape problem would there be in India? The fact is, for most people, open sexual assault like these which happens in India is simply a non-issue in China.

All that's highly exaggerated for India. Women are not simply walking around and getting groped everywhere.

India's reported rape rate is 1.8 per 100,000 versus 30 per 100,000 in the US. So how much do you think it is under-reported by in India? You want to raise it by 20 times? That will still give you 36 per 100,000.

Some random person gets groped, it gets into the media, and the whole world knows about it. In China, that information rarely makes it into the media.

As a much richer country, China is safer than India. But India's numbers are similar to much richer countries than itself. There are tons of countries that are richer than India, but are significantly more dangerous, like Mexico and Brazil.

You see, the media in India is completely capitalist. It means the media provides information when that information is consumed by people, which earns them money. There's nothing else to it. What this means is people are genuinely interested in learning more about it and then dealing with it. Overall, assault against women in India is no different from international standards everywhere. We just talk about it more openly than other countries, which doesn't mean India is unsafe for women just because it is part of our public discourse.

 

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

Days After CBSE Topper's Rape, Another Woman Gang-Raped In Haryana

CHANDIGARH:

A week after a former CBSE topper from Haryana was gang-raped, another woman from the same district as her has alleged that she was raped by two men, who kidnapped and dragged her in the fields in Haryana's Jind.

The woman, a widow, approached the police in Julana in Jind, alleging that she was gang-raped.

"The complaint was forwarded to the Women Police Station (in Jind) where the case was registered," police officer Surender Singh from Julana said over the phone.

When contacted, an official of the Women's Police Station, Jind, said the woman in her complaint on Monday stated that she had come to purchase some medicines.

"The complainant stated that she had come to Julana to buy some medicines for some ailment. When she was nearing the chemist shop, two bike-borne men approached her and after enquiring about her health condition, offered alternate therapy to treat her," the official said.

The woman agreed to accompany them after they told her that they belonged to Poli village in Julana, the official said.

"The complainant further alleged that instead the two accused took her to some field where they raped her," she said.

The official said both accused had been identified and efforts were on to arrest them.

"A case has been registered on the complaint of the woman under IPC Sections 376-D (gang rape), 366 (kidnapping) and 34 (acts done by several persons in furtherance of common intention)," she said, adding further investigation was underway.

COMMENT
Earlier, a 19-year-old woman, a school topper, was abducted from a bus stop while she was on her way to a coaching class. She was allegedly drugged and gang-raped at a room adjoining a tubewell in an agricultural field, police said.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/day...aped-in-haryana-1917979?pfrom=home-topstories

Yes, India is the safest country in the universe, India is wonderful, clean and beautiful Hinduism is a gift to the world.

 

[El Sidd]

Days After CBSE Topper's Rape, Another Woman Gang-Raped In Haryana

CHANDIGARH:

A week after a former CBSE topper from Haryana was gang-raped, another woman from the same district as her has alleged that she was raped by two men, who kidnapped and dragged her in the fields in Haryana's Jind.

The woman, a widow, approached the police in Julana in Jind, alleging that she was gang-raped.

"The complaint was forwarded to the Women Police Station (in Jind) where the case was registered," police officer Surender Singh from Julana said over the phone.

When contacted, an official of the Women's Police Station, Jind, said the woman in her complaint on Monday stated that she had come to purchase some medicines.

"The complainant stated that she had come to Julana to buy some medicines for some ailment. When she was nearing the chemist shop, two bike-borne men approached her and after enquiring about her health condition, offered alternate therapy to treat her," the official said.

The woman agreed to accompany them after they told her that they belonged to Poli village in Julana, the official said.

"The complainant further alleged that instead the two accused took her to some field where they raped her," she said.

The official said both accused had been identified and efforts were on to arrest them.

"A case has been registered on the complaint of the woman under IPC Sections 376-D (gang rape), 366 (kidnapping) and 34 (acts done by several persons in furtherance of common intention)," she said, adding further investigation was underway.

COMMENT
Earlier, a 19-year-old woman, a school topper, was abducted from a bus stop while she was on her way to a coaching class. She was allegedly drugged and gang-raped at a room adjoining a tubewell in an agricultural field, police said.

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/day...aped-in-haryana-1917979?pfrom=home-topstories

Yes, India is the safest country in the universe, India is wonderful, clean and beautiful Hinduism is a gift to the world.

You should Stop wasting Time and create a eulogy thread. Atleast you will be doing sone good instead of searching rape news.

This gets saved for like ever.

Stop Messing around

 

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

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[Mugwop]

Ever heard of the term "Precaution is better than cure"?

We have very tough laws in India. Those who get caught are screwed. But what's more sensible is to not walk around without pants in the first place.

Nobody is painting some magical rosy picture. Keep out of ghettos and other shady places, and you will be safe.



That's how a comparison is made. India is safe for women. The only countries that are much more safer than India are mostly developed countries. India's safety record compares to upper middle income countries. So we are already punching well above our weight class.

We are extremely mature when it comes to dealing with this problem. That's why it's all over our media and whatnot and is part of our public discourse. For us, "Even one rape is bad". Start looking at your own country first.



If you were attacked in India, it's mainly because you f**ked up. It's as simple as that.

The only one disgusting is you. Go look up all the hate crimes Australians commit every year instead.

Everyone here read the red line from this guy's response. Again it's the woman's fault not the rapist. This is indian mentality for you. It's the rapist mentality he won't condemn but the dress code.

Sure thing I have seen videos of how safe india is for women.I also heard speeches of your fellow politicians urging others to rape dead women.

Degenerate bharti don't tell me to look at my own country I am on Pakistani forum.If you can't handle criticism then GTFO.

Most of the disgusting Indians commenting in here live in the West, they should all **** off back to their perfect country India.

What makes you think they will go home when they can't even leave this forum

 

[randomradio]

Everyone here read the red line from this guy's response. Again it's the woman's fault not the rapist. This is indian mentality for you. It's the rapist mentality he won't condemn but the dress code.

You are being stupid. If you voluntarily jump into a bear enclosure, the bear will attack you. So who's at fault, the bear or you? In this case, the answer is both of you. You were stupid enough to jump into a bear enclosure, and the bear is stupid enough to attack a man, and it will also get caged or killed eventually. The same story for dumbasses who enter dangerous areas, because you are risking getting attacked by predators there. You have to be intelligent enough what to do in a specific environment.

There are places in India where you can wear a bikini and walk around, no one will do anything to you. And there are places where you get raped even if you are wearing a burka. Just use common sense and you will be fine.

Only 2% of the rapes committed in India are where the victim and attacker never met before. In fact, if you look at all the potential unreported rapes, the number would easily fall down to less than 0.2%, or even 0.1%.

 

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

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[Av8er]

'It's like I was in a horror movie. I couldn't relax in my bed at night because this was the place where I was supposed to feel safe.'

India is not a safe country for women. While people will claim we've progressed in terms of mentality, India still continues to be the most unsafe country in the world for women. That is not debatable. That is a fact.

This fact remains true of the women also visiting India - as tourists, or as people here for work. A US travel blogger was not exempt from the treatment an everyday woman faces in India.

Jordan Taylor, who is a US-based travel blogger known for Travellight and has a Youtube channel, which documents her adventures. At the beginning of 2016, Jordan left her life in Miami behind to travel the world with no particular destination or end date. Her most recent stop was India, where she faced a harrowing experience.

In a vlog, she opens up about an experience she says is still difficult for her to talk about, and was the result of what is still a "traumatizing experience" for her.


Taylor states how at the end of her trip which had otherwise been great, some really negative things started happening. "Men, who randomly passed by would reach out and start touching me, groping me." She specifies one instance, where a man "leaned into my face and said 'I want to **** you.'"

She also shares how she stayed in a 5-star hotel which gave her full name, room number and other personal details out to a stalker.

Then she shares the scariest bit about her trip. She says she checked into a hotel room, which was a property under OYO in Delhi's Paharganj.

She states how after her boyfriend left the hotel four days before she did, the hotel staff instantly started acting differently to her. "At one point one person even followed me up the stairs." She began to get menacing phone calls on the hotel room phone, and mentions how "this phone was only accessible by the hotel and it's employees so I knew it was one of them calling."

The phone calls contained things like, a long stretched out, "Heyyyyy baby" and "sexual noises and heavy breathing into the phone," with lewd noises and obscene included.

Two days before she was set to leave, someone came to her room, asked her to open the door, and at her refusal, came back with something heavy and banged it on the door. Then, she heard the main switch for her AC being switched off, which was located outside her door. After they switched it off, they demanded loudly that "the AC was broken, and we need to come inside to fix it." Obviously aware of what had happened, Jordan didn't answer her door. The hotel staff left and telephoned stating the same thing. This same gesture was then repeated by turning the Wifi off.

After this, she could see shadows under the door, as the person would move and come back. Soon, she could see the shadows of multiple people outside the door. While they repeatedly kept asking Taylor to open the door, she didn't respond, "Because I felt that if I opened the door, something bad would happen."

Recalling the experiences in the video, Taylor started choking up and stopped talking for a moment.

She said that the shadows were constant outside her door and "this went on for two days." While this incident unfolded, Taylor was stuck inside with no water or food. "It was like I was being hunted," she states. "It's like I was in a horror movie. I couldn't relax in my bed at night because this was the place where I was supposed to feel safe."

She also shares a video of the shadows that were present under her door.

Realizing that she couldn't leave, she noticed a small period in the early hours of the morning when the shadows would disappear, so she took that opportunity and left for the airport at 3 AM in the morning.

While she stayed brave through the ordeal at the hotel, she says that she lost her composure after leaving - and was crying in airports all over the world. Taylor also talks about being angry and annoyed at the situation, and wondering what she could have done differently.

She ends the video stating how she has had a good time in India before this - but the experience ruined it for her. She continues on how she was going to be part of what was "her dream project" in India with a company, but she couldn't take that project on anymore. She says it did not make sense for her to release the current video she was in, and then at the same time release other videos of adventure and fun with the company that she was supposed to be working with. She says that while she would like to visit India again, it wouldn't be for a while.

Reddit India in a tweet shared Taylor's experience, and OYO Rooms responded, stating that they were looking into the issue.

https://www.news18.com/news/buzz/us...ed-and-trapped-in-delhi-oyo-room-1876087.html

Yes, India is great, India is beautiful let's all thump our chest and cry out that India is the safest country in the universe.