US told Pakistan to get out of areas occupied during Kargil war: Former Pak envoy to US

[Dubious]

ek chota sa correction,,,,

1st) get your eye sight checked...
2) fix your geography: Kashmir is internationally known as a disputed territory so any talks about it are still valid
Lastly dont derail

 

[waz]

I have to say Somnath (OP), it makes a change from posting all the Pakistani minority is killed, raped, spat upon, farted upon, x'd on y'd on threads and rape threads regarding Pakistan.

 

[hkdas]

disputed territory means two or more country calm that place as their land.... it doesn't mean that kashmir belongs to Pakistan

1st) get your eye sight checked...
2) fix your geography: Kashmir is internationally known as a disputed territory so any talks about it are still valid
Lastly dont derail

 

[Dubious]

disputed territory means two or more country calm that place as their land.... it doesn't mean that kashmir belongs to Pakistan

Well thats up to Kashmir to choose give them a choice and then back out!

 

[halupridol]

1st) get your eye sight checked...
2) fix your geography: Kashmir is internationally known as a disputed territory so any talks about it are still valid
Lastly dont derail

1st) get your eye sight checked...
2) fix your geography: Kashmir is internationally known as a disputed territory so any talks about it are still valid
Lastly dont derail

1)eyesight -6/6. Checkd
2)geography-kaam chalau hai,,hated the subject
lastly,derailing-trying to behave,,,,,got 2 infarctions today,,,

 

[ares]

Well thats up to Kashmir to choose give them a choice and then back out!

Was rest of India(ie India, Pakistan, Bangladesh) given a choice..British drew the lines and they had to accept them..those who did not like where they ended up..migrated into the neighboring country..so what is so special about Kashmirs?

Even if we do accept your premise, you need to fulfill UN prerequisites for the referendum, move all Pakistani forces and Pakistani citizens from AJK and GB...so you need to back out first and then talk to us about backing out.

And what about the Kashmiri land you gifted to China(saksham valley)..did you bother ask Kashmiri 'opinion', when you unilaterally decided gift a piece of their land to Chinese?

 

[waz]

Even if we do accept your premise, you need to fulfill UN prerequisites for the referendum, move all Pakistani forces and Pakistani citizens from AJK and GB...so you need to back out first and then talk to us about backing out.

And what about the Kashmiri land you gifted to China(saksham valley)..did you bother ask Kashmiri 'opinion', when you unilaterally decided gift a piece of their land to Chinese?

1. Pakistani forces will leave, bar the Azad Kashmir regiment which are virtually all native sons of that land.
2. There are precious few "Pakistani" citizens there. Apart from businessmen and federal officials that is it. You can't settle there if you are not native to the land. I'm from there and I can't remember ever seeing a Pakistani from elsewhere putting his roots down there. By the way we all consider ourselves(Azad Kashmir folk) Pakistanis.

The Chinese thing you have a point on.

 

[dray]

We are not talking to jokers & clowns here.

@WebMaster @Aeronaut kindly take action against this useless troll. My time is precious unlike some insignificant tramps.

Yep, time is precious, don't waste it to prove that Pakistan won the Kargil war/conflict or had any real chance to win it.

Btw mods should take a note of the forum rules that were broken by you with those personal attacks that reflect poorly on your character.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Ya with no supplies ..we were able to move in and sustain two divisions into the sector.

Initially(early june) ..Pakistan was able to maintain sporadic fire on a tiny section of NH1D.

After Indian guns moved in, Pakistani positions were under intense pressure...Indian arty fire was so intense that any Pakistani infiltrator caught outside his 'sangar'(during one of the barrages)..would simply loose his head( due the intense pressure created by 155 mm air burst.)

PS: Indian supply route to Leh was never in danger.. for those who do not know, there exists a secondary route via HP ..Leh-Manali highway.

Bookmarked your post wi reply tmrw.

 

[jaiind]

 

[American Pakistani]

**** off you failed state ****, we thrashed you idiots for fun in Kargil and even the neutral sources agree with this. Only Madrasah certified BS that you Pakistanis are used to says the opposite.

**** off you r@p3 state g@n*******, we thrashed you idiots for fun in Kargil and even the neutral sources agree with this. Only Mandira certified BS that you Indians are used to says the opposite.

@WebMaster @Aeronaut I report his post but no action was taken so i just corrected his own post.

well actually it's the other way around it was your news channels who were feeding propoganda in pakistan when your army was beaten in the wars so that the people always feel proud, and you are among those people who believed the lies

propaganda news is something Pakistani news papers are mastered in, imaginary victories are their favorite topic till the surrender of their solders... it is obvious that pakistani media is banned in india.. BBC was not banned in india, may be BBC Urdu was banned...

lol Pakistani media supporting Pakistan or PA??? Are you high on something? The way Pakistani media acts, if it was Indian media...they would be thrashed by angry mobs & Indian terrorists like RSS, VHP, Modi, Bal thakuray, etc.

 

[xyxmt]

Its true Because of nawaz cowardness,we retreated back otherwise the capability to recapture kargil and other part of ladadkh existed with pak

know your capabilities, mere chest thumping doesnt give anything but cough, you could not provide air cover to your troops (whose positions were given to India by the PM, I cant even laugh hard enough on that). You had a totally incapable military leadership, mere adventurism by one lone wolf, who now says everyone was briefed but before it was such a secret mission that only two generals knew about it.

 

[American Pakistani]

Was rest of India(ie India, Pakistan, Bangladesh) given a choice..British drew the lines and they had to accept them..those who did not like where they ended up..migrated into the neighboring country..so what is so special about Kashmirs?

Even if we do accept your premise, you need to fulfill UN prerequisites for the referendum, move all Pakistani forces and Pakistani citizens from AJK and GB...so you need to back out first and then talk to us about backing out.

And what about the Kashmiri land you gifted to China(saksham valley)..did you bother ask Kashmiri 'opinion', when you unilaterally decided gift a piece of their land to Chinese?

Your whole post is baseless habitual lies.

I would only like to ask you about the bold part. Which idiot told you that Pakistanis from other provinces are living there?

P.S Kashmiris wanted to merge with Pakistan but the ruler act against their wishes same as Junagarh/Manvadar & Hyderabad Deccan rulers choose to merge with Pakistan but the population wanted to merge with India hence Indian forces invaded & held referendum in those states under the shadow of Indian Army.

Pakistan never gift any territory of Kashmir that it controls, to anyone. China control that territory but Pakistan used to claim it counting it as part of Kashmir...Pakistan just backed off it's claims from that territory. Your Indian Army taught propaganda is just unbelievable.

 

[Slayer786]

LOl. Indians must be so riled to read the article that US pressure had made pakistan withdraw, and all the time the indians thought that there army had anything to do with the withdrawal. It must be so annoying when they read this and realize it was just because of Uncle sam we got back our lands otherwise........

 

[Span]

P.S Kashmiris wanted to merge with Pakistan but the ruler act against their wishes same as Junagarh/Manvadar & Hyderabad Deccan rulers choose to merge with Pakistan but the population wanted to merge with India hence Indian forces invaded & held referendum in those states under the shadow of Indian Army.

Absolutely correct. You're just missing one point here.

Hari Singh chose J&K to be an independent state initially, which was not revolted by the J&K population. It was only after Pashtun tribesmen from Pakistan invaded Jammu and Kashmir with the help of Pakistan's government, that he appealed to India for help.

It was Pakistan who, with it's assistance to the tribesmen, played a role in invasion of J&K. We had accepted J&K's decision to remain an independent state.