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It’s you that turns Vietnam from ally into enemy. Vietnam was at war with the US, it’s your betrayal when shaking hands with our enemies. You can’t expect Vietnamese politicians acted on Beijing’s behalf.Come on, last time we Chinese saved your a$$ from your new lover Americans in 1960s - 1970s.
Vietnam is not that stupid, your leaders won't repeat the misadventure of Le Duan again. Vietnam will keep flirting with Americans, but not for sale again like what happened in 1960s-1970s.
The last thing Vietnam want is having a war with China, so Vietnam will never ever cross China red line again.
Be smart, be happy, enjoy the life, have peace.
NonsenseIf Vietnam is smart enough, it should keep distance from US. US will eventually leave SCS. China stays there forever.
This time, China and USA will exchange tactical nuclear strikes on Vietnamese soil and our tank divisions will fight pitched battles in HCM and Hanoi!You are funnier than I thought. No fight against yourself or against US, Japan, Taiwan, India, Korea, or if you like against Madagascar!
None sense. You are fighting with US for your own sake, we helped you from Yankees' slavery.It’s you that turns Vietnam from ally into enemy. Vietnam was at war with the US, it’s your betrayal when shaking hands with our enemies. You can’t expect Vietnamese politicians acted on Beijing’s behalf.
That’s your sole decision based on selfishness.
Nonsense
thing is not going as your wish.
Vietnam and US are getting closer by the day.
The US sees itself as pacific country they are not going anywhere.
Pls don’t make jokes on nukes.This time, China and USA will exchange tactical nuclear strikes on Vietnamese soil and our tank divisions will fight pitched battles in HCM and Hanoi!
LOL you have some conventional Scud missiles. They didn't save Saddam Hussein from Desert Storm.Pls don’t make jokes on nukes.
We have ballistic missiles that cover major chinese cities.
Ballistic is ballistic. Learn physics!LOL you have some conventional Scud missiles. They didn't save Saddam Hussein from Desert Storm.
WhateverNone sense. You are fighting with US for your own sake, we helped you from Yankees' slavery.
Chinese are not your farther, you are not our son. We don't have any responsibility of taking care of you.
We can shake hands with anyone, anytime. If Vietnam was pissed off because we shake hands with others, that's your problem, not ours.
No wonder Vietnam has no friends worldwide, because everyone knew Vietnam will bite their friends as soon as aid cut.
Yes, good move by US.. Hope the Chinese learn something from history and be more humble.Why post pictures of Georgia? You once worked with the US prior starting the war against Vietnam. Forgotten? Why don’t you post pictures of how you shake hands with the US?
Don’t blame us! We expelled the US from Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia. It’s you that invites the US back to Asia.
The US now puts hands on your neck. Enjoy.
Now tell me, who is ungrateful? Who is betrayer? Shame.Ballistic is ballistic. Learn physics!
North Korea ballistic missiles are based on Scud.
Iraq has no chance in winning because they fought the US like they fought against Iran. FYI We don’t have static military doctrine, we have a flexible response concept based on different enemies be it US, France, Japan, Thailand, Cambodia or China.
Whatever
Just because the US is evil,
We have no interest being rounded up and be sent to gas chamber by Chinese. we don’t want to be ended like the Jews.
He had Vietnam’s interest in mind not China‘s. If he acted like you wished for Vietnam would be still divided and in war with the US. Don’t act like you are the smartest while we are dumb.Now tell me, who is ungrateful? Who is betrayer? Shame.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_in_the_Vietnam_War#The_end_of_China’s_assistance
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That's power politics. Anyone broke the rule, consequence follows.
Soviet and Russian use of Cam Ranh facilities
THE SOVIET-VIETNAMESE TREATY 1978
Lê Duẩn misjudged international power politics and over estimated himself and Vietnam. His misadventure is devastating for Vietnam and Sino-Vietnam relationship.
Could Vietnam Have Avoided the 1979 War With China?
And by the way, you see how US punish Cuba? For damn 58 years since 1962, don't see when the sanction will end.
China just punished Vietnam for less than 10 years, and resumed normal diplomatic relations thereafter. China is quite forgiving if you are objective.
The world is a jungle, never changed.
I never said Le Duan was stupid. Hồ Chí Minh was top leader only by name when his health deteriorated. The real power was in Lê Duẩn's hand since 1960s.He had Vietnam interest in mind not China‘s. If he acted like you wished Vietnam would be still divided and in war with the US. Don’t act like you are the smartest.
If course he dumped chinese friendship for Vietnam. What do you expect?
I doubt he made the decision.I never said Le Duan was stupid. Hồ Chí Minh was top leader only by name when his health deteriorated. The real power was in Lê Duẩn's hand since 1960s.
Le Duan was very successful before 1970s, he only made one mistake, which was misjudging China. He historical position ruined because of his misadventure. Literally, Le Duan's misadventure delayed Vietnam for 20+ years.
What's even worse, Vietnam should have peace since 1975, and enjoy good relationship with China, which is your biggest ally or rival. Then Vietnam can have a great deal on SCS, much better than situation today.
From an objective perspective, Le Duan ruined Vietnam for more than 20 years. When China rise, Vietnam has to live under Dragon's shadow if not fury.
I never said Le Duan was stupid. Hồ Chí Minh was top leader only by name when his health deteriorated. The real power was in Lê Duẩn's hand since 1960s.
Le Duan was very successful before 1970s, he only made one mistake, which was misjudging China. He historical position ruined because of his misadventure. Literally, Le Duan's misadventure delayed Vietnam for 20+ years.
What's even worse, Vietnam should have peace since 1975, and enjoy good relationship with China, which is your biggest ally or rival. Then Vietnam can have a great deal on SCS, much better than situation today.
From an objective perspective, Le Duan ruined Vietnam for more than 20 years. When China rise, Vietnam has to live under Dragon's shadow if not fury.
Here you come to ruin the thread again. I am out.Le Duan is intelligent enough. he did known well about china betrayal mentality of Chinese, you followed the tactic to devide Vietnam and you had shaken hands with US in back of us from 1969, 1972 China welcomed your father Nixon in Pekiing.
If Vietnam is smart enough, it should keep distance from US. US will eventually leave SCS. China stays there forever.
Here you come to ruin the thread again. I am out.