US to deploy 16 F-35 stealth fighters at west Japan base next year

[gambit]

If I'm so clueless how is it that you cannot explain the US timidness in case of China at the SCS? China is doing everything she said she was going to do while the US keeps barking! How do you explain that?

Timidness ?

If you think that our working for a diplomatic resolution equates to warfighting capabilities, there is no hope for you. How long after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait did we finally took on Iraq ? How long after Desert Storm did we finally invade Iraq again and removed Saddam Hussein ? Our warfighting capabilities improved over TWO PRESIDENTS and their associated politics.

Bark ? Use that for other countries. But for US, our bite is deadlier than our bark.

Since D-Storm, what has China contributed to warfare ? In fact, the last time China made any contribution to the arts and crafts of warfare was the organization of the mutterings of Sun Tzu, of which we turned out to be a better student than China is.

We introduced networking to warfare to D-Storm. Where was China ?

Since D-Storm, we improved such networking to the point that a fighter (F-35) was designed around it. Where was China ?

We made a better aircraft carrier than the ones we currently have. Where was China ? Struggling with a Cold War era design cast off from the defunct Soviets.

Wait a sec...DSI.

Yes, you ARE clueless.

Who has hacked all the data from LHM ?

Shoo...Fly...You are nothing to this debate

And the Chinese might claim that their J-20 is stealthier than your F-35, it's your words against theirs. Actual battle will tell the truth.

Based on my nearly 19 yrs of aviation/avionics experience, in and out of the military, I am going to say this...

If there is ever a shooting fight between US and China and if it involves the J-20, we are going to eat the J-20 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

From that point on, no country will embark on its own indigenous 'stealth' combat aircraft program. Not the Russians. Not the Chinese. Not the Europeans. Not the Indians.

 

[xunzi]

Based on my nearly 19 yrs of aviation/avionics experience, in and out of the military, I am going to say this...

If there is ever a shooting fight between US and China and if it involves the J-20, we are going to eat the J-20 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

From that point on, no country will embark on its own indigenous 'stealth' combat aircraft program. Not the Russians. Not the Chinese. Not the Europeans. Not the Indians.

Uh huh. You know where we live. We ain't going no where. LOL

 

[1R0N_M4N_XL]

Timidness ?

If you think that our working for a diplomatic resolution equates to warfighting capabilities, there is no hope for you. How long after the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait did we finally took on Iraq ? How long after Desert Storm did we finally invade Iraq again and removed Saddam Hussein ? Our warfighting capabilities improved over TWO PRESIDENTS and their associated politics.

Bark ? Use that for other countries. But for US, our bite is deadlier than our bark.

Since D-Storm, what has China contributed to warfare ? In fact, the last time China made any contribution to the arts and crafts of warfare was the organization of the mutterings of Sun Tzu, of which we turned out to be a better student than China is.

We introduced networking to warfare to D-Storm. Where was China ?

Since D-Storm, we improved such networking to the point that a fighter (F-35) was designed around it. Where was China ?

We made a better aircraft carrier than the ones we currently have. Where was China ? Struggling with a Cold War era design cast off from the defunct Soviets.

Wait a sec...DSI.

Yes, you ARE clueless.


Shoo...Fly...You are nothing to this debate


Based on my nearly 19 yrs of aviation/avionics experience, in and out of the military, I am going to say this...

If there is ever a shooting fight between US and China and if it involves the J-20, we are going to eat the J-20 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

From that point on, no country will embark on its own indigenous 'stealth' combat aircraft program. Not the Russians. Not the Chinese. Not the Europeans. Not the Indians.

lol... debating with these keyboard warriors who have no military background, no military experience.. never been into street fight, never hold a rifle in their entire lives..

 

[T-Rex]

Timidness ?

If you think that our working for a diplomatic resolution equates to warfighting capabilities, there is no But for US,.

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Chamberlain was also working day and night for diplomatic solution before Hitler began the Second World War. History interprets it as timidness. Why do you think Chamberlain acted this way? It was because Britain was weak and afraid of Hitler like the US is afraid of China today. You are trying to pass your fear as an attempt for diplomatic solution. Saddam tried so hard for a diplomatic solution but you opted for military solution based on a bunch of lies because Saddam was militarily weak.

our bite is deadlier than our bark.

You're still barking, aren't you?

Based on my nearly 19 yrs of aviation/avionics experience, in and out of the military, I am going to say this...

If there is ever a shooting fight between US and China and if it involves the J-20, we are going to eat the J-20 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

From that point on, no country will embark on its own indigenous 'stealth' combat aircraft program. Not the Russians. Not the Chinese. Not the Europeans. Not the Indians.

I have no doubts that our Chinese friends are eagerly waiting for you to prove it! The Russians are also keenly interested to see the outcome. I don't know what kind of spin you're trying to give to this by mentioning india in it but let me tell you this much, if india ever manages to acquire stealth capability it won't be with the help of the Russians, it will be with the help of the US.

 

[gambit]

I have no doubts that our Chinese friends are eagerly waiting for you to prove it!

You mean YOU are eager for a shooting fight between US and China. You and the PDF Chinese. All of you talk tough, but none of you will have any participation in that fight.

 

[vtnsx]

You mean YOU are eager for a shooting fight between US and China. You and the PDF Chinese. All of you talk tough, but none of you will have any participation in that fight.

I doubt they even know what they are talking about. Just a bunch of trolls.

 

[Anubis]

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Chamberlain was also working day and night for diplomatic solution before Hitler began the Second World War. History interprets it as timidness. Why do you think Chamberlain acted this way? It was because Britain was weak and afraid of Hitler like the US is afraid of China today. You are trying to pass your fear as an attempt for diplomatic solution. Saddam tried so hard for a diplomatic solution but you opted for military solution based on a bunch of lies because Saddam was militarily weak.



You're still barking, aren't you?



I have no doubts that our Chinese friends are eagerly waiting for you to prove it! The Russians are also keenly interested to see the outcome. I don't know what kind of spin you're trying to give to this by mentioning india in it but let me tell you this much, if india ever manages to acquire stealth capability it won't be with the help of the Russians, it will be with the help of the US.

The US also tried to find a diplomatic solution to avoid war with Japan and to stop Japan expanding into Asia...I haven't heard any historian ever calling it timidness....the US also did everything it could to find a diplomatic solution with Iran...and it succeeded...or are you going to say the US is too weak and scared of Iran?

 

[hoangsa74]

The US also tried to find a diplomatic solution to avoid war with Japan and to stop Japan expanding into Asia...I haven't heard any historian ever calling it timidness....the US also did everything it could to find a diplomatic solution with Iran...and it succeeded...or are you going to say the US is too weak and scared of Iran?

Iran is a major oil producer. By having iran on the u.s side, the u.s can cut off the oil life line of china in case of war. The u.s is looking beyond the horizon for her interest. Step by step the u.s is normalizing relation with iran. With both saudi and iran not supplyjng oil to chjna during crunch time. China war machjne will come to a halt like the german faced during ww2.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

Iran is a major oil producer. By having iran on the u.s side, the u.s can cut off the oil life line of china in case of war. The u.s is looking beyond the horizon for her interest. Step by step the u.s is normalizing relation with iran. With both saudi and iran not supplyjng oil to chjna during crunch time. China war machjne will come to a halt like the german faced during ww2.

It is FOOLISH for anyone to think that IRAN will trust USA which they branded as the greatest DEVIL or vice versa. Tell us why hasn't USA lifted its full economic sanctions against IRAN and only on selected industries.

In fact, in the years to come, China may be a net OIL exporter.

 

[T-Rex]

The US also tried to find a diplomatic solution to avoid war with Japan and to stop Japan expanding into Asia...I haven't heard any historian ever calling it timidness....the US also did everything it could to find a diplomatic solution with Iran...and it succeeded...or are you going to say the US is too weak and scared of Iran?

Yes, the US has always been scared of Iran ever since the failed rescue attempt in 1979. Now Iran has Russia and China firmly supporting her. As for timidness, you couldn't deny that Chamberlain's diplomacy with Nazi Germany was actually timidness.

You mean YOU are eager for a shooting fight between US and China. You and the PDF Chinese. All of you talk tough, but none of you will have any participation in that fight.

Will you take part in the war? No, so what makes you different? The only difference is you see China through the Hollywood lenses, we don't.

 

[LeGenD]

Who do you think had far greater experience in fighting a modern war in 1952? Of course it was the US but it had little bearing upon the outcome of the Korean War. If what you claim had any substance the US would have stopped China right on her track at SCS but the US didn't because your politicians know a lot more about China than you do.

What do you expect US to do? Why is US supposed to stop every nation from pursuing its goals?

Yes, the US has always been scared of Iran ever since the failed rescue attempt in 1979. Now Iran has Russia and China firmly supporting her. As for timidness, you couldn't deny that Chamberlain's diplomacy with Nazi Germany was actually timidness.



Will you take part in the war? No, so what makes you different? The only difference is you see China through the Hollywood lenses, we don't.

Diplomacy is not an indication of being scared, my friend.

 

[Imran Khan]

another cold war is on the way damn . why USA never stay in his home ?

 

[T-Rex]

Diplomacy is not an indication of being scared, my friend.

The US is brave against nations like Iraq and Afghanistan. You tell me wise guy, was diplomacy really given any chance before the US invaded those two states? So, stop talking like you just woke up from your mother's womb.

 

[LeGenD]

The US is brave against nations like Iraq and Afghanistan. You tell me wise guy, was diplomacy really given any chance before the US invaded those two states? So, stop talking like you just woke up from your mother's womb.

Mind your language.

US was brave against Germany, USSR and Japan as well.

US gave Iraq 1 year to leave Kuwait in 1990. US also ignored Afghanistan until 9/11 event. However, invasion of Iraq was wrong. But keep in mind that US offered even the likes of Saddam Hussein and Muammar Qaddafi a chance to step down from leadership and safe passage.

Americans warn you first (i.e. prioritize diplomacy); take disciplinary action against you later (when you don't heed the warning). This is how a responsible state should behave.

 

[gambit]

The US is brave against nations like Iraq and Afghanistan. You tell me wise guy, was diplomacy really given any chance before the US invaded those two states? So, stop talking like you just woke up from your mother's womb.

Actually...Yes.

The US petitioned Mullah Omar many times, even to the point of sending a satellite phone to Omar, that was a direct link to the US President, in the hope that Mullah Omar would stop harboring Osama bin Laden. Omar refused the peace offering from the US.

As for Iraq, the US literally took months to build up that invasion force that made up Desert Storm. During that time, the US repeatedly told Saddam Hussein to leave Kuwait or else face the consequences.

Will you take part in the war?

I am Desert Storm veteran. I am 53 yrs old. I have served my country. What about you ?

The only difference is you see China through the Hollywood lenses, we don't.

And YOU see war thru whatever cheap movies made by your country. Compare me to you, it is YOU[/b[] who are delusional about war.