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US to back India's membership of UNSC: Obama

Thanks to mr. Obama for US's supports for India in the UNSC. Its a good move for India. I think though it will take time, its not far away.

dont you guys worry china will veto such move..... relaxx

by the way, China still holds the only whip hand in the whole game.:partay:

:rofl:

China tried such move in IAEA/NSG during nuke deal but failed. No one can veto in UN general assembly.
 
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NEW DELHI: US President Barack Obama Monday backed India’s quest for a permanent UN Security Council seat, inviting the world’s largest democracy to take its “rightful” place at the summit of global power.

In a symbolic climax of his three-day visit to a nation he hailed as an “indispensable” US partner, Obama delivered the foreign policy victory to Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in a landmark address to the Indian parliament.

But at the same time he warned that with growing power, came increased responsibility as he pointedly criticised India for failing to condemn human rights abuses in neighbouring Myanmar.

The move on the Security Council seat, intensifying a haggling process on United Nations reform that could take years, will be seen as an incentive for a government Obama wants to see throw open its markets to US exports in a vast American “job fair”.

“The just and sustainable international order that America seeks includes a United Nations that is efficient, effective, credible and legitimate,” Obama said, making a case that India was already an established global power.

“That is why I can say today – in the years ahead, I look forward to a reformed UN Security Council that includes India as a permanent member,” he said, drawing prolonged applause.

While there has been incremental US support for an Indian Security Council seat, Washington had previously stopped short of a full endorsement.

However, US officials said they had yet to work out how a body born in the wreckage of World War II could be reformed to reflect new geopolitical realities, and said India may have to wait a “significant” time.

Obama spoke after meeting Singh and the two sides unveiled a sheaf of economic, environmental and democratic projects to cement one of the “defining partnerships of the 21st century”.

His courtship of India, and current tour of Asia, reflect the rapid growth in India’s economy and a shift in power to emerging nations as a result of the global financial crisis, which has hit Western powers hard.

While piling praise on India, Obama also challenged it to uphold the democratic ideals to which the former jewel in the crown of the British empire owed its independence and rise to prominence.

Seeking an example, he jabbed his hosts on their record on military-ruled Myanmar, which held elections on Sunday which Obama said were stolen by the ruling junta.

“When peaceful democratic movements are suppressed, as they have been in Burma (Myanmar), then the democracies of the world cannot remain silent,” Obama said.

“Faced with such gross violations of human rights, it is the responsibility of the international community, especially leaders like the United States and India, to condemn it,” he said.

“If I can be frank, in international fora, India has often shied away from these issues,” he added.

Obama also spoke about Pakistan, the key US anti-terror ally but arch-rival of India which accuses it of permitting extremist groups to plot cross-border strikes such as the November 2008 attacks in Mumbai.

“We’ll continue to insist to Pakistan’s leaders that terrorist safe havens within their borders are unacceptable, and that terrorists behind the Mumbai attacks must be brought to justice,” Obama said to applause.

He added that though the United States wanted dialogue between the South Asian rivals, their conflicts could be solved by the two nations alone, eschewing any US effort to broker peace talks.

Singh, who enjoys a close relationship with Obama, said the allies would now work as “equal partners in a strategic relationship”.

Obama’s remarks will be closely watched elsewhere in Asia, particularly in China, which will be weighing the geopolitical implications of the embrace ahead of talks between Obama and President Hu Jintao in Seoul this week.

In a carefully-worded statement Pakistan’s foreign ministry said that US support for India “adds to the complexity” of reforming the Security Council, adding that it hopped the US would not be swayed by “power politics”.

Relations between Delhi and Washington, characterised by mistrust and occasional hostility during the Cold War, were reset by former US president Bill Clinton in the 1990s and invigorated by his successor George W. Bush.

Obama arrived in New Delhi on Sunday after paying homage to victims of terror attacks in Mumbai and seeking job-creating dividends for the struggling US economy in India’s commercial hub.

He unveiled 10 billion dollars in trade deals designed to support US jobs and announced the relaxation of export controls on US technology that can be used for military applications.

On Tuesday Obama will travel to his childhood home in Indonesia, before heading to the G20 summit in Seoul and the APEC gathering of Asia-Pacific leaders in Japan.— AFP

http://public.dawn.com/2010/11/08/obama-backs-india%E2%80%99s-drive-for-un-power.html
 
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It was just a matter of time with UK, France and Russia fully on board and China hesitantly it would have been real difficult to go on saying we are friends/allies of India without endorsing India's position

The point here is will the US administration pitch in/lobby/bring others on board/use it's good offices/arm twist others for India as the Bush administration did with the NSG clearance
 
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Would have been more happy if Obama would have put a time frame to UNSC reforms. Also, he didn't clarify whether he supported India as a permanent UNSC member with veto powers or without veto powers.

Anyways, the mere mention of the fact that the United States wanted to see India as a permanent member of the UNSC is a major foreign policy victory for India. Still a lot more work is required, but consider the number of UNSC permanent members who support India's UNSC candidacy bid --

1) USA
2) Russia
3) UK
4) France

All of these four P5 nations have officially supported India now. The only P5 member remaining is China. But with growing trade relations and more frequent of diplomatic dialogue, China might not decide to single-handedly derail India's UNSC candidacy bid.

Anyways, UNSC permanent membership is a bit hyped considering the fact that UN has lost most of its influence in recent years. Apart from snob value, nothing much is there. So, Pakistanis should not really freak out.
 
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He gives good speech as usual..... ending part...

 
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Going through the comments posted here, some Pakistanis have suggested that China can veto India's UNSC bid.

I would like to inform them that China's veto will not count if India's bid is approved 2/3rds of UN General Assembly members.

As per UNGA Resolution 377, the General Assembly can overrule a veto by any P5.

Therefore, India was never seriously interested in seeking a Chinese sponsorship of its UNSC bid. It has always been more concerned about wooing developing nations in Africa, South America and Asia. As a consequence, a US sponsorship is huge as it will secure the votes of several of these nations.
 
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The Fact is even though China vetoed or objected india's waiver from NSG,India got the waiver,this time it will be the same..
U can't stop India in UNSC with just support of 1 nation and a veto..
India has 4 UNSC members on it's side and has the support of each and EVERy nation on this planet..
China may veto,pakistan may support china,even north korea may supporters,But should i count the supports of INDIA...?
Every one knows that
 
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Going through the comments posted here, some Pakistanis have suggested that China can veto India's UNSC bid.

I would like to inform them that China's veto will not count if India's bid is approved 2/3rds of UN General Assembly members.

As per UNGA Resolution 377, the General Assembly can overrule a veto by any P5.

Therefore, India was never seriously interested in seeking a Chinese sponsorship of its UNSC bid. It has always been more concerned about wooing developing nations in Africa, South America and Asia. As a consequence, a US sponsorship is huge as it will secure the votes of several of these nations.

Sounds good but let's not delude ourselves. Securing 2/3rd votes is still a big ask.
 
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voting is to be done in General assembly,so India is definitely going to make it

Very soon we will find one more member bargaining of a place in UNSC,NSG and MTCR

Who else other than Pakistan(they will be representing Islamic world,which is itself indulged in fighting with each other)
 
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India's first prime minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, declined the offer of a permanent seat that was made in 1955 by the U.S. and the Soviet Union. Nerhu instead said it should be given to China, a nation which he long admired.[/B] :woot: :woot:

I really do wish people would stop quoting this. It didn't happen. This is the " 33% of all NASA engineers are Indian"thing all over again. People are so gullible.
 
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I really do wish people would stop quoting this. It didn't happen. This is the " 33% of all NASA engineers are Indian"thing all over again. People are so gullible.

This is not an internet forward, but something written in the Washington Post (which is quite credible)

Please see the first page of this thread
 
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It will take another 2,3 years to decide but for now we must congratulate Indians for UNSC membership.:D:D:D
 
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It will take another 2,3 years to decide but for now we must congratulate Indians for UNSC membership.:D:D:D

It will take at least a decade for India to get UNSC permanent membership...lot of lobbying to be done...then there is Germany and Japan issues...
 
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This is not an internet forward, but something written in the Washington Post (which is quite credible)

Please see the first page of this thread

and India's government minister also quoted the 33% stat. it doesn't mean that it originate from her or an official office.

I would be absolutely willing to hear out any evidence that India was offered a UNSC seat. I really would be interested and grateful.
 
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