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US targets emir of Punjabi Taliban in pair of drone strikes in North Waziristan

^Why are we allowing drones to do it? Is our Army NOT capable?? If not, why not say it openly?
Y these double games? Havent learned their lesson yet?
Remember the hullabaloo about drones violating your airspace thereby impinging on your sovereignty? You guys went to town lambasting the US for this! And now you guys are welcoming them? What's changed? Why the sudden volte-face?
 
They are no longer under occupation.
Well when USA and NATO both get lost completely than we need to put pressure on Afghan Taliban and Afghan government to start talks.
 
Well when USA and NATO both get lost completely than we need to put pressure on Afghan Taliban and Afghan government to start talks.

The remaining US presence is with the full consent of the democratically elected govt of Afghanistan, which means that it doesn't amount to an occupation.
 
Sorry that neighbour is under occupation of USA and NATO and as long as they are fighting USA and NATO its completely Islamic. USA and NATO both need to get lost from Afghanistan. They are the biggest problem in this region.

Are you being a #hypocrite? You hate TTP but love their terrorist brothers Afghan Taliban?
FYI, they are one and the same! (see: Some proofs that TTP / Alqaeda / Taliban are all one and the same for comprehensive proofs)

They stay togather, eat togather etc..

BOTH are terrorists and need to be cleaned

If you argument is that Afghanistan is occupied by USA well then same can be said for Pakistan! Our govt/army is openly US allied, takes $$ for war etc etc (just like afghan govt/army)

afghan taliban also kill civilians (although they say we dont target them)
ttp also kills civilians (they even say we dont targt them... [excluding peshawer, which btw afghan talibs and some factions of ttp condemned. lols)

So HOW & Why do u support A. Talibs?

@Horus: So, Pakistani bombs dont turn them into COAL? Man, WHY can't OUR army do it??? Why take crap from other nations?
 
@Horus: So, Pakistani bombs dont turn them into COAL? Man, WHY can't OUR army do it??? Why take crap from other nations?
The Pakistani military has carried out far more strikes on the Haqqanis and in Datakhel than US drones have, during the current military operation in North Waziristan.
 
The Pakistani military has carried out far more strikes on the Haqqanis and in Datakhel than US drones have, during the current military operation in North Waziristan.

But they'v never killed any big known terrorist.. so their strikes r questionable!
drones on the other hand hav taken our biggest enemies of this earth
 
Sorry that neighbour is under occupation of USA and NATO and as long as they are fighting USA and NATO its completely Islamic. USA and NATO both need to get lost from Afghanistan. They are the biggest problem in this region.

So are Tajiks and Uzbeks of the north kaafirs? Was Ahmad Shah Massoud a Kaafir, who was attacked by the "good" Taliban despite being associated with Pakistani Jamaat-e-Islami?
 
The US targeted a dual-hatted Pakistani Taliban leader and al Qaeda commander in one of two drone strikes that took place today in Pakistan's jihadist haven of North Waziristan.

The CIA-operated, remotely piloted Predators or Reapers launched two airstrikes in the Shawal area of North Waziristan, killing nine people, including four "foreigners," a term used to describe members of al Qaeda or other foreign jihadist groups, The New York Times reported. The Shawal Valley is a known haven for a host of jihadist groups, including al Qaeda and a multitude of Pakistani Taliban groups.
The first strike targeted a vehicle as it traveled in the Shawal area, killing four "Uzbeks," a Pakistani security official told the Times. The Uzbeks are likely members of the al Qaeda and the Taliban-linked Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.

The second strike targeted "a compound in Kund Sar in the Shawal Valley," where Asmatullah Muawiya was sheltering, the Times reported. Five people were killed in the attack, but it is unclear if Muawiya was among them.

Muawiya is the emir of the Movement of the Taliban in Punjab, which is more commonly called the Punjabi Taliban. He is also known to be the commander of what Osama bin Laden described as one of several al Qaeda military "companies." [See LWJ report, Bin Laden docs hint at large al Qaeda presence in Pakistan].

Muawiya broke with the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan in the summer of 2013 when he decided to halt attacks against the Pakistani government and focus his group's efforts in Afghanistan. The Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan claimed to have expelled Muawiya, but the Punjabi Taliban commander denied that he was subservient to the group to begin with. [See Threat Matrix report, Did the TTP 'expel' Asmatullah Muawiya?]

The Shawal Valley, which is administered by Taliban commander Hafiz Gul Bahadar and spans both North and South Waziristan, is a known haven for al Qaeda and other terror groups operating in the region. A number of Taliban, Pakistani, and foreign terrorist groups gather in the Shawal Valley and then enter
Afghanistan to fight US, NATO, and Afghan government forces.

The US has now launched 24 drone strikes in Pakistan this year. Six of those strikes, or 25 percent, have taken place in the Shawal Valley, and eleven, or 46 percent occurred in Datta Khel, which is also an al Qaeda and jihadist hub in the tribal agency.

All 24 attacks by the US have taken place since June 11. The US drone program in Pakistan was put on hold from the end of December 2013 until June 11, 2014, as the Pakistani government attempted to negotiate a peace deal with the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan, an al Qaeda-linked group that wages jihad in Afghanistan and seeks to overthrow the Pakistani state.
Source: LWJ

And Pakistan will not do that because, they have made an agreement with TTP(Punjab) of not taking them out, so US is , oho .. :D
 
This is the hypocrisy that I talk about in our army and mods r so angry on me!

We ALL know that Asmatulla Mavia is a terrorist! He was AGAINST Pak Army (n probably killed many of our men) but we made him surrender and made peace with him, YET we allowed him to go to N. Waziristan (hello, what operation?) and attack on afghanistan/USA. Shouldnt he have been punished or at least a trial held!!

According to my sources, He also came to Pakistan to attend his father's funeral (from full permission and security) by our army. Many people saw him and met him! (he was kinda celebrated as a hero in his village!!) Then he went back to N.Waziristan!


calm down bhai jaan

US drones however despised by you, are working under a joint understanding with PA.

Let's not get emotional and start ridiculing PA everytime there is a successful drone attack,.

Thank you
 
But they'v never killed any big known terrorist.. so their strikes r questionable!
drones on the other hand hav taken our biggest enemies of this earth
Pakistani strikes are not any more questionable than drone strikes - it is the low level commanders and foot soldiers that do most of the logistical arrangements and actually carry out terrorist attacks, and in most cases also concoct the attacks. The top level leadership is mostly running and hiding and plays more of a figure-head role once they are appointed to that position. So Pakistani strikes that have taken out hundreds of low level commanders and foot soldiers are in fact causing far more damage to the abilities of the terrorists to carry out attacks than the drone strikes that have killed a handful of 'leaders'.

Haven't you figured out yet that as soon as one leader is killed another even more brutal one takes his place?

Nek Mohammed led to Baitullah, Baitullah led to Hakimullah, Hakimullah led to Fazlullah - each arguably worse than the one before - and once Fazlullah is dead, it appear likely that Khorasani (who is even more brutal than all the others before him) will take over.

Pakistan may not have killed any major TTP leader in its North Waziristan offensive, but it has destroyed major TTP bases of operation and killed hundreds of low level commanders and foot soldiers, and the impact in terms of a reduction in terrorist attacks (even including Wagah and the Peshawar massacre) is significant. There was no such corresponding significant reduction in terrorism after Nek Mohammed, Baitullah or Hakimullah were killed.

calm down bhai jaan

US drones however despised by you, are working under a joint understanding with PA.

Let's not get emotional and start ridiculing PA everytime there is a successful drone attack,.

Thank you
Yep - been noticing that the GoP condemnations of drone strikes have become pretty muffled as well, which is just as well.
 
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