US spells out terms of engagement with Pakistan

[Fawadqasim1]

Even if USA does have ability to bomb Pakistan whenever they want, they cannot do it without a legitimate reason or justification.

They have one ready-made state sponsor of terrorism they just have to say it. No proof required.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

You are absolutely correct. But Pakistan would have become the next North Korea if we hadn't complied to the US demands...

• Imagine US as the sole superpower in 2001... no one would have dared to stand in its way back then
• Russia was a collapsed empire with a dwindling economy, they could barely sustain themselves. Besides, we could not trust them due to obvious reasons: 1) we fought them just a decade ago, 2) they were, and still are very close to India.
• China wasn't as influential or powerful as it is today, so I highly doubt they would have stood with Pakistan, especially, after 9/11 mass hysteria and an international consensus on Afghan war...
• Pakistan would have been branded as "terrorist supporter" and a rogue state... all ties cut, all aids withdrawn... we were a new nuclear power, but without the missile capabilities... so, all they would have to do, was to send a naval fleet in the Arabia ocean, and you can imagine where it would have gone from there... India, our neighbor, would have been more than happy to extend help...

So, what happened post-9/11 was unfortunate, but inevitable... In my view, Pakistan's biggest geopolitical blunders were made later, e.g., allowing Drone Strikes, OBL operation (everyone knows CIA couldn't have done it alone... plus, where is the body??) etc. We allowed Americans to gain too much influence over us... blackwater and CIA used to operate openly, and gave them military basis, etc., while USA was openly supporting anti-Pakistani elements in Afghanistan (India included).

All matters in this Alem-I Hikmet is tied to time!!! And, TIME isnn't without its MASTER!!!!

This time Pak can sit it out!! It's the USA which is in a hurry, and she is angry!!! Satan messes up with the staffs done in haste!!! And, whoever stands up in anger sits down in loss!!!!

 

[Fawadqasim1]

genie is out of the bottle it's about nawaz sharif he is the cowerdest let me use this word like Shakespeare's unkindest the cowerdest of all.

 

[tarrar]

IK will surely not listen to any crap from US as they have lost in Afghanistan & are sinking. They are just finding ways to dump their trash on some one.

 

[Jackdaws]

Bingo. The problem was Musharaf was not as cool as he makes out. He was no Napoloen or Hitler. Like I said in the Kargil fiasco he blamed Nawaz. The question that nobody has asked him is you had Nawaz thrown out of office when his **** was on the line in the air but when Pakistani soldiers were fighting and dieing in Kargil he did not remove Nawaz. He later blamed Nawaz for the fiasco.

What happened in 2001 was when facing threat of USA he had no backbone and no popular support in the country so he sold out Afghanistan to come out as Bush's b*tch with few billion dollars which he then showered on the country to give a impression that his government was doing good.

They can. Well so thought Musharaf.

As a military machine, the world has never seen a country with the firepower that the US has. With the resources it has, it can over run any country except perhaps Russia in a matter of weeks.

But once they do that - they are completely clueless. The Brits were far more astute at being a superpower

 

[Fawadqasim1]

USA is getting really vicious.
I don't think there is anything we can do to make them understand.
They are pretending to leave Afghanistan, but Infact they wanted more chaos and stay.
They would put more sanction on Pakistan and try to hurt our economy. They wanted to bring Afghanistans war into Pakistan.
In that situation they can question the security of our nuclear assets and then ask us to roll back our project.
Seriously we cannot have same goals now.
It would be interesting how Imran would tackle usa.

They might not go that way they may need pakistan is my analysis i maybe wrong though

IK will surely not listen to any crap from US as they have lost in Afghanistan & are sinking. They are just finding ways to dump their trash on some one.

Who is sinking Afghanistan is sinking not they.

 

[Jackdaws]

I am curious to know why the Pakistani govt and military are averse to India having a role in Afghanistan? Isn't Afghanistan a sovereign nation who can choose and determine its relationship with other countries?

 

[LeGenD]

They might not go that way they may need pakistan is my analysis i maybe wrong though

Do not worry.

US and Pakistan will work something out. Have faith in Allah Almighty.

I believe that IK will make a positive impression on the American delegation with his personality and investment offers.

We all should be patient and hope for the best.

 

[Fawadqasim1]

I am curious to know why the Pakistani govt and military are averse to India having a role in Afghanistan? Isn't Afghanistan a sovereign nation who can choose and determine its relationship with other countries?

Afghanistan is an occupied country as long as
Its occupied by usa the question of sovereignty doed not arise.

Do not worry.

US and Pakistan will work something out. Have faith in Allah Almighty.

I believe that IK will make a positive impression on the American delegation with his personality and investment offers.

We all should be patient and hope for the best.

Insha allah

 

[MBT 3000]

terms?

 

[Fawadqasim1]

terms?

my way or the highway

 

[MBT 3000]

my way or the highway

motorway

 

[xyxmt]

We've been hearing about this upcoming visit a lot but it's not happening. I think the US is waging a psychological warfare against IK. IK should clearly spell out what to expect or else those terror godfathers in Washington will keep twisting facts in order to confuse those people who voted for IK.

not a single Pakistani is confused about US intentions and new PM has full support to deal with US any way he feels

 

[Pakistansdefender]

They might not go that way they may need pakistan is my analysis i maybe wrong though


Who is sinking Afghanistan is sinking not they.

Well I don't think there can be any convergence of pakistan and usa now.
They ask us to eliminate the haqqani network, while from last 2 years haqqani's have not done a single attack in Afghanistan. There was one attack on governor House in which a UAE diplomat died. The local Afghan government tried to blame that on haqqani's. The haqqani's flew to uae to clarify the uae government that they are not involved.
And the attack was actually insider attack.
After that taliban now runs and controls 70 percent of Afghanistan. We cannot kill them. If we kill them they would attack us. They are so powerful now, directly governoring the countryside.
While us begs them to talk and on the same time ask us to kill them. Not going to happen.
Daesh is our common enemy, few of its members comprise of former ttp.
We kill them. But in Afghanistan it is allowed to roam free.
I can only remember that story of sheep and lion.
No Matter what logical excuses the sheep gave to the lion, to not eat him...
The lion find illogical faults after faults to. Justify his assult and finally eats his prey.
Might is right. And the last 5 years with no diplomacy, has hurt us a lot.
Our narrative doesn't exists.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Well I don't think there can be any convergence of pakistan and usa now.
They ask us to eliminate the haqqani network, while from last 2 years haqqani's have not done a single attack in Afghanistan. There was one attack on governor House in which a UAE diplomat died. The local Afghan government tried to blame that on haqqani's. The haqqani's flew to uae to clarify the uae government that they are not involved.
And the attack was actually insider attack.
After that taliban now runs and controls 70 percent of Afghanistan. We cannot kill them. If we kill them they would attack us. They are so powerful now, directly governoring the countryside.
While us begs them to talk and on the same time ask us to kill them. Not going to happen.
Daesh is our common enemy, few of its members comprise of former ttp.
We kill them. But in Afghanistan it is allowed to roam free.
I can only remember that story of sheep and lion.
No Matter what logical excuses the sheep gave to the lion, to not eat him...
The lion find illogical faults after faults to. Justify his assult and finally eats his prey.
Might is right. And the last 5 years with no diplomacy, has hurt us a lot.
Our narrative doesn't exists.

You are incorrect. Might is not Right.

Being Right is true Might.