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US should declare that Pakistan has no claim on Kashmir:US Expert.

The downside is that we lose legitimacy for what will follow.

Any transitions that may follow will have to be motivated from inside Pak. With nukes floating around, the possibilities for armoured thrusts etc are severely limited.

India will need to go on upgrading capacities but it will be for deterrence and defence.
 
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You are trying to prove Clinton more desperate, since when Americans went desperate to stop the war. :cheesy: Its from number of insiders from PA who claimed Musharraf sent Nawaz Sharif to Washington and after the withdrawal put all blames on civilian government and innocent civilian government had wrath of the public.

Nope, you are taking the wrong message from this. According to this not so true story, Bill Clinton threatened to bomb Pakistan to the stone age & Pakistan surrendered....sometime later in 2001, we have the true story of Richard Armitage threatening Musharraf with bombing Pakistan to the stone age & Pakistan threw in the towel......now you know what the correct response to get a Pakistani surrender is........
 
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Any transitions that may follow will have to be motivated from inside Pak. With nukes floating around, the possibilities of armoured thrusts etc are severely limited.

India will need to go on upgrading capacities but it will be for deterrence.

Regardless of the motivation, internationally, the view of India taking back what it claims versus occupying (permanently) foreign (sovereign) soil is a different proposition.

Its important to position oneself when one has the benefit of breathing space and the foe does not.

Pakistan today cannot sustain enmity with us.

Pakistan today needs peace to regroup more than we do.

Why would we hand them back the advantage when they are down and going down further?

In the final analysis, Pakistan to be contained, needs to be encircled.

And we cannot place all our apples in the Baloch basket.

Alternatives always have to be on the table.

For the good of the region.
 
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Why would we hand them back the advantage when they are down and going down further?
The only advantage is an assurance that war is not likely to break out on their eastern front. But declaring LoC as IB would require a very fundamental rethink of their strategic vision and their national narrative. (Which is why it is unlikely to happen any time soon.)

In the final analysis, Pakistan to be contained, needs to be encircled.

And we cannot place all our apples in the Baloch basket.

Alternatives always have to be on the table.

For the good of the region.

Containment is not enough, one should play a supportive role in bringing about a stable situation which will satisfy all stakeholders and ethnic groups. It can only help if India is no longer seen as a hostile power, that just unifies all the extremists.
 
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Nope, you are taking the wrong message from this. According to this not so true story, Bill Clinton threatened to bomb Pakistan to the stone age & Pakistan surrendered....sometime later in 2001, we have the true story of Richard Armitage threatening Musharraf with bombing Pakistan to the stone age & Pakistan threw in the towel......now you know what the correct response to get a Pakistani surrender is........
Don't you think Drones attacks are already bombing us, They just need a bait which could manage easily when a time will come, May be now civilians establishment don't trust as much on army that they could even try to retaliate against any offence from U.S . This whole plan U.S can use to encircle China, But it has defects , they have already tired from wars in middle east and they don't seems to be interested in any another war , secondly , China already understand the importance of Pakistan would not allow U.S to risk her interests in region, Its not a piece of cake even for U.S to force Pakistan on surrendering Kashmir.
 
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