US Senate warns Obama on Rouhani in letter signed by 76 lawmakers

[Desert Fox]

As for nationalism, Pakistani is just an identity for whosoever wants to become one. There are at least a dozen major ethnolinguistic groups in Pakistan. We don't have a rigid idea of Nationality, like the Arabs, or the Turks etc. We are a unique multicultural nation, with 12 or so major languages. There will be no race based revolt in Pakistan, let me say Never.

Nationalism doesn't have to be race based.

 

[Sinnerman108]

As if there were any! Hah!

Happy Eid bro

Eid Mubarak to u too !

just came back from Khobar, and did 200 all the way,
wind washed every one in the way ... Tonnes of fun ...
even wife and kids loved it !

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Khobar is cool and laxy. I'm going to move out there next week

Eid Mubarak to u too !

just came back from Khobar, and did 200 all the way,
wind washed every one in the way ... Tonnes of fun ...
even wife and kids loved it !

 

[Desert Fox]

Arab world was able to muster up all the unity in the world for the Palestinians because they too were Arabs & successfully championed it as a Muslim Issue to the rest of the Muslim World as opposed to Arabs being duped by the Brits, the Zionist & other Colonials into letting the Jewish Settlers in before they took over the land & told the Arabs to foOk off - Compared to Kashmir that sounds like a Real Estate dispute more than anything else !

Maybe you should've made a sales pitch to Donald Trump instead of beating the drums of war across the length & breath od the Muslim World that compelled idiots within our Establishments to send pilots & other manpower in every Arab-Israeli War only to find out an enemy that you outnumbers & outgunned from all sides & vastly so defeating you in a matter of days - Twice we found out that we had arrived too little too late.

But still we're not asking you to Nuke India or even go to War with them ! God help us if we ever wagered on the superior fighting prowess of the Arab Armies.

But entering into Joint-Ventures, Strategic Economic Linkages, the occasional Defense Deals & smooching their Politicians whenever they arrive as if that was the most important relationship to cultivate is hardly something one does with someone who routinely kills or maims your Best Non-Arab Bud !



You're right its not insignificant...its laughable !



Oh so you're going to play the Muslim Card of all things !

And what are we ? What are the Kashmiris ?

Wait aren't there Israeli Arabs ?

Surely you should recognize the State of Israel thereby you'd have the proper means to diplomatically approach the poor & mistreated Israeli Arabs & champion their cause ! Maybe even look towards greater Economic Linkages with Israel - After all Money Talks while BS Walks....even the Knesset would be amenable to your demands when you're companies convey their displeasure with the apartheid against Israeli Arabs !

But no so help us God - In India we've got 200 million Muslims (actually its less than that) who've we've got to reach out to & India isn't Liechtenstein so we must maintain the very best of relations with them. You know they're a huge economy, a nuclear power & it always good to profit from that - Kashmiris...Kashmiris who ? Oh those sorry arsed MOFOs - They can go foOk themselves...we've got some Riyals to make !

I do hope that the next time you talk about having picked sides & Pakistan being your main non-Arab Ally you'd have the courage to convey all of the above to the women who were raped by your Not-Liechtenstein, the children made orphaned, the adults who've disappeared without a trace, the mass graves & the many extra judicial killings in Kashmir. I hope that you'd be able to tell Pakistan too that it doesn't mean sh*t to us what Not-Liechtenstein does in Baluchistan, in Afghanistan, in the Media & on the International Turf, to Pakistan because well they're just not Liechtenstein !

Just to leave you with one story, just one of many thousands & incidentally not even one investigated by Pakistanis but by Indians at the East Punjab Human Rights Organization as part of an entire Report on Human Rights Abuses in Kashmir & investigated by Justice (R) A.S Baine, Major General (R) Narinder Singh, Dr.Sukhjit Kaur Gill & Balwant Singh - All Indians:

'In Handwara, during the house to house searches, by the paramilitary forces, they misbehaved with women, cut their hair, took away cash & gold & men & women were beaten. Women were stripped naked & raped. One girl was gangraped before 4 males & female members of her family. Since then she has been living with her mother's sister out of shame. She was raped when she was performing the last namaz of the day. Her cousin left the house next day and has not returned since. Another girl shifted from Sringar to Hadwara. She was beaten & raped. Her second sister jumped from the first floor window on the road & broke her legs.' (Freedom Struggle in Kashmir, Page 328)

And just one for the road :

'At about midnight of 23rd April, a group of army men from 13 Raj Rifles unit came to the village. They went into three houses, one after the other & sexually assaulted the women. At the house of Abdul Ahad Mir, who has seven daughters, only one of them is married - the army men entered, while the officer stood outside & only seemed to be interested in searching the women the women, allegedly, for weapons concealed in their clothes (that they had on while sleeping). The married sister was sexually assaulted along with 4 other sisters.

Next the Raj Rifles men went on to a neighboring house where the woman was alone with her young son & daughter. Her husband was on duty. He works for the Beacon, the Indian Army's Border Roads Organization, as a driver. The soldiers went and knocked upon the door at the back. She thought they had come to drink water and opened the door...then then said you have a pistol hidden in your clothes and forcibly removed her clothes & raped her. This time it was the commander "with the French-cut Beard" who committed the assault.

Then the soldiers went to another neighboring house that of Ghulam Qadir Wani, whose wife Khati and daughter Naza spoke to our team. Khati told us that it was nearly 1:45 A.M by the time they reached her house. They broke the window, showed the torch inside and tried to come in, but there was a mesh that prevented them. Then they broke the door open and came in. Khati was drawn on the floor & she was threatened that she would be shot if she shouted or tried to put on the lights. Then the soldiers raped her daughters Naza & Fareeda.' (Civil War & Uncivil Government - A report of the Indian NGOs - Anddhrapradesh Civil Liberties Committee, Hyderabad Committee for Protection of Democratic Rights & People's Union for Democratic Rights, Delhi who had in turn worked closely with the Human Rights Division of the Institute of Kashmir Studies. - Quoted & Referenced in Freedom Struggle in Kashmir, Page 335-339)

' @Secur @Desert Fox @Hyperion @DESERT FIGHTER @ZYXW !

This is the bitter truth. Kashmir is our struggle and InshaAllah we will triumph!

 

[p(-)0ENiX]

It’s not whether you need help or not, I’m not talking about military power. They just want to see others do the dirty work on their behalf while they will not spill any blood. This happened numerous times in recent history. Now they have no problem to drag Pakistan in the secterian war which it might have been dragged into already according to some members. What we keep seeing is them dividing Pakistanis ( any other country aswell ) into 2 sides which is a danger. So I agree with the ones here that call for a rise of nationalism in Pakistan.

Yes, sectarianism does exist in Pakistan, but apart from a few extremists & other idiots, most regular Pakistanis aren't sectarian. Regular people simply desire peace, stability, & progress. I agree that we need to prevent sectarianism from causing any further harm to innocent people though.

It will be difficult to create nationalistic sentiment in Pakistan, but it isn't impossible. Pakistan is multicultural, but it isn't multiracial. The majority of Pakistanis do share common heritage through their Indo-Iranian/Aryan roots. More than 90% (estimate) of the languages spoken in Pakistan are Indo-Aryan or Iranian even if some of its speakers aren't. Unfortunately, many ignorant people deny those similarities probably due to a lack of knowledge or due to a desire to keep religion as the sole uniting factor. In any case, nationalism hasn't been tested in Pakistan, but if the cards were to be played right; it could end up being extremely successful.