US responsible for the Murder of Pakistani Troops - Pak Rejects NATO Probe

[Safriz]

but then again.....somebody told me that transit trade is still going on..only NATO trucks have been stopped..
so the troops over there arent in a hurry they can always buy from local contractors.

 

[VCheng]

I think we have a poker table and each player is trying to guess what the next move from the other side will be. It is a tussle between how long Pakistan can hold out on the trucks and commodities and how costly is it going to be for the US. Whichever party hurts the most will capitulate and discussions will then start as to how to resume. The other possibility is that PA sees that as an ideal opportunity to disengage from the whole process to re establish the communication lines with the parties that will eventually take control in Afghanistan. However, what arrangements if any we will have in future with the US, if any needs to be seen. I suspect we will restore food supplies and possibly fuel supply through Afghanistan and symbolically take a stance that no machines of war will pass through Pakistan. A duty may also be levied if the US is sufficiently compromised.
Araz

That is a fair assessment of the situation I think.

 

[regular]

but then again.....somebody told me that transit trade is still going on..only NATO trucks have been stopped..
so the troops over there arent in a hurry they can always buy from local contractors.

So the US/NATO supplies are passing under the cover of Afghan trade.....this is so ridiculous.......

 

[regular]

well there can be two things...either the pakistanis are hard nosed idiots or they have very valid reasons to blame the americans.....and we are trying to establish those reasons?

No there is only one thing that we have hard strong solid reasons to blame US for its evil backstabbing us......

 

[Developereo]

So the US/NATO supplies are passing under the cover of Afghan trade.....this is so ridiculous.......

And do you really think Pakistani politicians are not aware of this loophole?

 

[Devil Soul]

US briefs COAS Kayani on investigation
WASHINGTON: The American military has briefed Pakistan's army chief on its investigation into US air strikes that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers on the Afghan border last month, officials said Tuesday.

A report by military investigators was delivered to General Ashfaq Kayani on Sunday by a US officer based in Islamabad, who explained the findings to the general, Pentagon spokesman Captain John Kirby told reporters.

The full report from the joint US-NATO investigative team was not released publicly until Monday to allow time for the Pakistani leadership to read the findings first, Kirby said.

"We wanted General Kayani to be able to see the entire thing," he said. The approach represented "an appropriate professional courtesy" to Kayani, he added.

A summary of the report was released Thursday and the officer who led the investigation, Brigadier General Stephen Clark, briefed reporters by phone the same day. (AFP)

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Pakistan rejects US army findings on Nato attacks
By: thenation monitoring | December 28, 2011

WASHINGTON - Pakistan’s government has formally disputed the findings of a US investigation into the November 26 airstrike that killed 24 Pakistani soldiers, saying the bombardment went on long after it reported its troops were under fire, reported CNN on Tuesday.
In a letter to the US Congress, Pakistan said its troops came under fire at well-identified border posts and that NATO commanders knew helicopter gunships were firing on Pakistani forces ‘within the first fifteen minutes’ - yet the attack continued for more than another hour.
“This attack was the most recent example of the losses Pakistan has suffered fighting alongside the United States to combat terrorism and extremism,” the letter states. The strike has strained ties between Washington and a key ally in the region, and ‘an apology by the US Department of Defence to the people of Pakistan would not be inappropriate,” the letter states.
The Pentagon said last week that the incident began shortly after 11 pm on November 25, when a US contingent came under fire near the Pakistani border in southeastern Afghanistan. Brig Gen Stephen Clark, who led an investigation into the incident, said a lack of trust between NATO and Pakistani forces led to critical missteps by both sides.
At one point, about an hour into the confrontation, Clark said the Pakistani military reported to the Americans that they were under attack. But when asked for their location, the Pakistanis didn’t want to give their location up, arguing that the coalition forces must know where they were because they were firing at them, he said.
Meanwhile, allied forces who had the exact coordinates of where their troops were only gave the Pakistanis a general location of where they were, Clark said - and because of an inaccurate map, the description the coalition forces gave was not accurate, he said.
But in its letter to Congress, Pakistan said the incident ‘has raised suspicions in the rank and file of the Pakistan Army that it was a premeditated attack and was conducted to undermine the sovereignty and stature of Pakistan’. The Pakistanis say their border posts came under fire first, and that any claim to the contrary is ‘baseless’.
The letter argues that “the complete NATO chain of command” knew allied gunships were attacking Pakistani forces by 1:15 am on November 26, but kept pounding the Pakistanis until about 2:20. “At this point NATO was knowingly attacking Pakistani soldiers,” it states. NATO commanders were well aware of the Pakistani positions, it added.
Pakistan’s response was sent to US lawmakers via the lobbying firm of Locke Lord Strategies, which acts as an agent for the Pakistani government in Washington.
Pakistan rejects US army findings on Nato attacks - The Nation

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I am sure the report will bring back the lost lives of 28-30 troops , and their families will get the lost people back ...

Good job ... and no your supplies line will remained closed

It would only be fair that the soliders who killed people would be handed to Pakistani Army for justice

 

[VCheng]

I am sure the report will bring back the lost lives of 28-30 troops , and their families will get the lost people back ...

Good job ... and no your supplies line will remained closed

It would only be fair that the soliders who killed people would be handed to Pakistani Army for justice

Life is never fair, is it?

 

[Safriz]

I read in the News that CENTCOM is not yet ruling out court marshal of the people involved in the tragedy "Provided it is proved it was their fault"...Get it?

 

[foxbat]

Good job ... and no your supplies line will remained closed

Supply lines are already open.. Its just that the goods are going across in the name of transit trade now..

 

[VCheng]

I read in the News that CENTCOM is not yet ruling out court marshal of the people involved in the tragedy "Provided it is proved it was their fault"...Get it?

The internal accountability process will continue within NATO as SOP.

 

[Jango]

Supply lines are already open.. Its just that the goods are going across in the name of transit trade now..

And where did you hear that from?

 

[Developereo]

And where did you hear that from?

It's worse. These traitors are just itching to resume NATO supplies.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...imited-relationship-pakistan.html#post2428532

Any new security framework will also require increased transit fees for the thousands of trucks that supply NATO troops in Afghanistan, a bill that allied officials say could run into the tens of millions of dollars.

 

[VCheng]

It's worse. These traitors are just itching to resume NATO supplies.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...imited-relationship-pakistan.html#post2428532

Any new security framework will also require increased transit fees for the thousands of trucks that supply NATO troops in Afghanistan, a bill that allied officials say could run into the tens of millions of dollars.

Is it traitorous, or is it that the economic pressures are simply too great to resist long term?

 

[BATMAN]

Supply lines are already open.. Its just that the goods are going across in the name of transit trade now..

But in transit trade we don't give free petrol.