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A proposal to acquire Javelin anti-tank guided missiles from the US has hit a roadblock over transfer of critical technology and reluctance of the American government to participate in the field trials.

India is looking to acquire the third-generation anti-tank guided missiles for modernising its more than 350 Infantry units and provide them the capability to destroy enemy armoured regiments.

The US is not agreeing to provide critical technologies of the missile demanded by India and has also shown reluctance to make available the missiles for being evaluated by Indian experts in the field trials, sources told a news agency here.

Till the time these issues are sorted out, it would be difficult for the Indian side to proceed further on the deal, they said.

In response, US missile manufacturer Raytheon said, “The Javelin JV stands ready to respond to all requests of the Indian government relating to the evaluation and procurement of the combat-proven missile while ensuring it adheres to a US and Indian governments’ agreement.”

The Javelin missile is manufactured by a JV of Raytheon and Lockheed Martin but sold to global customers through the US government under the Foreign Military Sales route.
The company said the missile was a superior solution on offer to the Indian Army and was “worth the wait as the two governments continue discussions.”

Javelin along with the Israeli Spike missile was planned to be evaluated by India for the requirements of its infantry units.

The deal has been stuck for more than two years as Defence Minister AK Antony had said in August 2010 that a Letter of Request would be sent to the US for procuring these missiles along with Transfer of Technology requirements.

The Javelin missiles have only been demonstrated to the Indian Army in military exercises involving the forces of the two countries.

The development has taken place at a time when the US has been assuring India about supplying critical technologies for its various programmes.

During his recent visit to India, US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta had also assured Antony that the US would initiate measures to provide access to technology.

The denial of dual-use items by the US to various laboratories under the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) was a key issue for discussion between the two sides.

DRDO chief V K Saraswat had recently said US President Barack Obama’s assurance on removal of DRDO from the entities list and easing exports of dual use items had only remained on paper.

US refuses Tot and Evaluation by Indian Experts for Javelin ATGM | idrw.org
 
US calls for building a strong relationship with India, it wants to grab a share of the Indian defence market but it refuses to fulfill the desires of India so that Indian defence industry can stand on it's own foot. TOT should not be a choice given by India to it's suppliers but a commitment that every exporter nation should fulfill. US can say bye to Indian friendship if it does not trust it's friend & puts restrictions & agreements such as LSA, CISMOA etc. between the two countries. This clearly shows that US can never be trusted as a professional defence supplier, if they are putting these harsh conditions while we are at peace, one can only imagine what will happen if (god forbid) any war breaks out involving India.

Those who wants american hardware should wake up now

Mate, u don't need anything Russian, U don't need anything American, so where the hell we go??? To the Chinese :lol:
 
Don't wait just give the contract to Israel ....It will be hard slap on the face of America who want to build so called ''Close Military Relation'' with India....Dude no relationship is complete without Trust and Americans have one the worst record in that department.....

Btw dude if you can't even give ToT for anti Tank missile then what were you doing in MMRCA deal....
 
The US is not agreeing to provide critical technologies of the missile demanded by India and has also shown reluctance to make available the missiles for being evaluated by Indian experts in the field trials,

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/209156-us-refuses-tot-javelin-atgm.html#ixzz27HlErav0
So what's the big deal? All we had to do was to get the missile and reverse engineer the weapon system. We should take a leaf out of the Chinese who are experts in this sort of thing! :cheesy:
 
Combining this news with an earlier report on Javelin, than we will get these AGMs at these conditions:

1. In very low nos. than we demand for.
2. No field trials.
3. No TOT.

& maybe a gem of a condition - "No usage in war" :rofl:

It's better that now we go for Israeli missiles than abide to US' list of conditions.
 
We should have been doing decades ago. Sad that we haven;t learned to deal effectively with all the barriers to access cutting edge tech. The javelin btw does have some major issues if I remember correctly. You can expect them to prop up our military with TOT when it spells the demise of their industry. We should organize and invest in India effectively, more public-private partnerships in certain core areas could help big time....should be an option that we explore...we need to stop following the west and make our own route
 
Well then Israel will use this as an opportunity.

or maybe US has refused ToT so that US tech can get in and capture large share of Indian market through backdoor(Israel).

Israel tech is nearly as much good as US tech and Israeli weapons must have some critical parts made by US arms giants and there is huge possibility that Israel doesn't have source code for them.

my guess is, US wants large share in Indian defense market, but indirectly(through Israel).

they, probably, want to give impression (false) that they are not interested in supplying weapons to India beyond a limit.
 
or maybe US has refused ToT so US tech can get in Indian market through backdoor(Israel)

Israel tech is nearly as much good as US tech and i am sure that Israeli weapons have some critical parts made by US arms giants

my guess is, US wants large share in Indian defense market, but indirectly(through Israel)

they, probably, want to give impression (false) that they are not interested in supplying weapons to India beyond a limit, which may upset Pak


and pakistan is kid? :blah:
 
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