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But my fear, you never know, but that can change because we have a very unstable man in the White House, he is a walking talking disaster. To make my point let me give you an example, remember George Bush, how he dragged us into a totally useless war in Iraq, so far that war has cost us more than 2 trillion and some studies show that it can cost us over 6 trillion in the next four decades. The consequence of that stupid war is that we are still stuck in Afghanistan, the damn, terrorist Taliban are as stronger as ever and Al Qaeda is regaining strength again and terrorist ISIS is another disastrous outcome of that useless war.


You're right that foreign policy decisions made by a President have far-reaching consequences that can last for decades. Luckily, however, Trump actually seems to be doing alright in this category---excluding Russia. Congress passed new sanctions on Russia with strong support from both parties (and a veto-proof majority). Even there, his hands are somewhat tied.

While it may be sad to hear his statements on Charlottesville, and traitorous Confederate monuments, it's very interesting from a purely political perspective. It's like the man is on a mission to become as unpopular and un-electable as possible. The amount of damage he's doing to himself and the Republican Party is immeasurable. We should thank him for that.
 
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Bannon got the boot !

Liberlols shouldn't get ahead of themselves, this might very well be very deep 18 dimensional chess that we can't comprehend yet.

Bannon, having been in the inner circle of Trump, might have been deputed to be the administration's man on the outside, unrestricted by fears of tarnishing the presidency anymore.
 
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They've been saying he's been digging that hole since he announced his candidacy, he's now commander in chief. :)

Although, even you would have to agree it's one thing to be a civilian billionaire candidate digging your own hole and another being the POTUS. The limelight, the critics, the checks and balances and the consequences are on a completely different level. :-)

It's the media who've been digging themselves in a hole, they've got no credibility left. Trump will wipe the floor with them again, wait for it :partay:

Really? I think many would argue that point and say it's pretty clear he's actually empowered the media, especially the msm, by giving them more material to sail to China with and back. He's given them ratings beyond their imagination. Essentially, he's made them billions at his expense! That's why it's impossible to buy this theory of ingenuity to expose the "fake media" and the left on his behalf.

He has stepped in it on occasion and inflicted harm on himself in the past but gotten away with it. On this occasion, however, he did/said nothing wrong. There was violence on both sides and antifa and other far left anarchists are a nasty bunch. It was a bad situation that culminated when that nazi drove into a crowd and killed that girl.

He's not infallible, and might well do something stupid in the future that leads to his political downfall but he said/did nothing wrong here.

I don't think many disagree with that. I think most of us have been consistent about the freedoms that all groups should be able to exercise and that he was right in that respect and that there was blame on both sides and yes, the supremacists were attacked by the leftists and the latter should be held accountable for their actions. The problem is his inability to articulate and to understand that there is a major, conflicting moral issue with what many of those supremacists promote as well as the violence with the leftist and all of that should have been clearly addressed and it wasn't. He failed in that regard and I think the reasons are obvious.

Cenk is a moron, so are his most of his main co hosts, Ana Kasparian, John, Hasan etc.

I never claimed Cenk was a genius, lol. You should've quoted my entire quote for context. :-)
 
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Although, even you would have to agree it's one thing to be a civilian billionaire candidate digging your own hole and another being the POTUS. The limelight, the critics, the checks and balances and the consequences are on a completely different level. :-)
True, but he really hasn't done anything catastrophic as POTUS yet, still a long ways to go though.

Really? I think many would argue that point and say it's pretty clear he's actually empowered the media, especially the msm, by giving them more material to sail to China with and back. He's given them ratings beyond their imagination. Essentially, he's made them billions at his expense! That's why it's impossible to buy this theory of ingenuity to expose the "fake media" and the left on his behalf.
I think it's half manufactured outrage by the media, the other half is Trump whipping them into a frenzy, like the General Pershing tweet right on the heels of this nazi madness, controlled chaos with Trump pulling all the strings. It works to his advantage when they go over the top, even tweeted about it.


I don't think many disagree with that. I think most of us have been consistent about the freedoms that all groups should be able to exercise and that he was right in that respect and that there was blame on both sides and yes, the supremacists were attacked by the leftists and the latter should be held accountable for their actions. The problem is his inability to articulate and to understand that there is a major, conflicting moral issue with what many of those supremacists promote as well as the violence with the leftist and all of that should have been clearly addressed and it wasn't. He failed in that regard and I think the reasons are obvious.
He's not very articulate, is he :P

Weird, because if you watch some of his interviews from years ago and he's basically talking about a lot of the same things he speaks about now, just a lot more coherent back then.

I never claimed Cenk was a genius, lol. You should've quoted my entire quote for context. :-)
I just find him really annoying, still watch a lot of his material though.

Here we go, was waiting for this one.


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I think it's half manufactured outrage by the media, the other half is Trump whipping them into a frenzy, like the General Pershing tweet right on the heels of this nazi madness, controlled chaos with Trump pulling all the strings. It works to his advantage when they go over the top, even tweeted about it.

lol. You know he quoted that bogus story about General Pershing during the campaign also, right? I think the numbnuts really believes it! :D
 
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I couldn’t have said it better!

The great Arnold Schwarzenegger’s message for Pres Trump and racist Alt-right on Charlottesville violence.


"Let me help you write your speech a little bit," says Arnold the Terminator to Trump, you have "moral responsibility to send an unequivocal message that you won't stand for hate and racism." In the video Terminator drafts the speech that he says Trump should have given after the violence in Charlottesville:

“As Pres of the United States, and as a Republican, I reject the support of white supremacists. The country that defeated Hitler’s armies is no place for the Nazi flags. The party of Lincoln won’t stand for those who carry the battle flag of the failed Confederacy.”

And in the video he also had a message for the KKK, Alt-Right and white supremacists:

“Your heroes are losers” :lol:

“I knew the original Nazis, growing up, I was surrounded by broken men, men who came home from war filled with shrapnel and guilt, men who were misled into a losing ideology, and I tell you, that these ghosts you idolize spent the rest of their lives living in shame and right now, they are resting in hell.”




Bravo, former President Obama’s tweet on Charlottesville violence has become the second most liked tweet ever. It got more than 2.5 million likes.

Meanwhile, former Pres Obama’s response to Charlottesville violence shatters Twitter record. That’s the difference between a decent President and an embarrassment.

Twitter announced after midnight on Wednesday that the former president's tweet had hit the milestone. Link
 
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I couldn’t have said it better!

The great Arnold Schwarzenegger’s message for Pres Trump and racist Alt-right on Charlottesville violence.



"Let me help you write your speech a little bit," says Arnold the Terminator to Trump, you have "moral responsibility to send an unequivocal message that you won't stand for hate and racism." In the video Terminator drafts the speech that he says Trump should have given after the violence in Charlottesville:

“As Pres of the United States, and as a Republican, I reject the support of white supremacists. The country that defeated Hitler’s armies is no place for the Nazi flags. The party of Lincoln won’t stand for those who carry the battle flag of the failed Confederacy.”

And in the video he also had a message for the KKK, Alt-Right and white supremacists:

“Your heroes are losers” :lol:

“I knew the original Nazis, growing up, I was surrounded by broken men, men who came home from war filled with shrapnel and guilt, men who were misled into a losing ideology, and I tell you, that these ghosts you idolize spent the rest of their lives living in shame and right now, they are resting in hell.”
 
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The 3.4 million dollar renovation was also approved by Obama. The leftist love to accuse Trump of wasting tax dollars on the renovation. That is the reason for the "vacation".

Here's the problem, though; maybe the left wouldn't bitch and complain and constantly rag on him and specifically with vacationing time -- regardless of whether the oval office was being renovated or not -- if he had only kept that erratic, flapping, gum glap of his shut when he constantly criticized Obama for taking "so many vacations." It's like so many things with this lunatic. He had to add something when questioning Obama's birth certificate and that's what he used, too much vacation time which now has come back (like with many other things) to bite him in the derriere.

So on top of this 17 day vacation (which BTW, has exhausted the yearly budget of the secret service protecting the president and his large family during all these vacations in less than 8 months) but there has also been ridiculous misuse (or a better term is inconsiderate) of the SS budget when for some bizarre reason, Melania had to stay at Trump Tower for the first few months instead on sleeping with her husband in the WH, adding much more SS to protect her and their kid or whomever. Jersey golf club weekends, Mara Lago weekend after weekend and blowing the budget and surpassing what Obama spent on vacations.

So maybe if he hadn't gum glapped all these years and showed some semblance of practicing what he preaches, (specifically in this matter since we can list a gazillion other lies and and phony claims he's gone back on), maybe this wouldn't be a big issue.
 
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So, the msm are rolling in Trump's poo just like they did after the Syria tomahawk attack..

but..

Fears of a complete neo-con takeover of the Trump administration are greatly exaggerated, though not entirely unfounded.

Missed the Trump speech earlier but saw CNN flash scary headlines about a very divisive speech and bits about
"muh confederacy and are heritage"

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lol
 
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