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WASHINGTON: The United States should seek Pakistan’s membership or at least observer status in major international forums, such as the Group of Twenty, a US task force recommended on Friday.

The panel – led by Richard Armitage and Samuel Berger, top aides to former presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton – notes that Pakistan’s presence in such groups would enable it “to connect with new power structures and familiarise it with emerging norms and responsible international behaviour”.

In a report released on Friday, the task force, which enjoys support of the administration, endorses the Obama administration’s effort to cultivate cooperation with Pakistan as the best way to “secure vital US interests in the short, medium, and long run”.

It recommends that this approach should include significant investments in Pakistan’s own stability, particularly after this summer’s floods. But in order for US assistance to be effective over the long-term, Washington must make clear that it “expects Pakistan to make a sustained effort to undermine Pakistan-based terrorist organisations and their sympathisers.” The task force warns that “two realistic scenarios” could force a fundamental reassessment of US strategy and policy.

First, it is possible that Pakistan-based terrorists conduct a large-scale attack on the United States and that the Pakistani government – for any number of reasons – refuses to take adequate action against the perpetrators. In the aftermath of a traumatic terrorist attack, it would be impossible for US leaders to accept Pakistani inaction.

The United States most likely would launch a targeted strike on Pakistani territory led by Special Forces raids or aerial attacks on suspected terrorist compounds. Even limited US military action would provoke a strong backlash among Pakistanis. Public anger in both countries would open a rift between Washington and Islamabad.

In a second scenario, Washington could reach the conclusion that Pakistan is unwilling to improve its cooperation on US counter-terrorism priorities. The panel warns that frustration over Pakistan’s persistent relationships with groups like Lashkar-e-Taiba and the Afghan Taliban at some point could cause the United States to shift its approach towards Pakistan.

In this case, Washington will have a number of points of leverage with Pakistan. It could curtail civilian and military assistance. It could also work bilaterally and through international institutions, such as the International Monetary Fund and the UN, to sanction and isolate Pakistan.

US operations against Pakistan-based terrorist groups could be expanded and intensified.In the region, the United States could pursue closer ties with India at Pakistan’s expense.

“Sticks would be directed against Pakistan-based terrorists, but also against the Pakistani state, in an effort to alter its policies. The US-Pakistan relationship would become openly adversarial.”

But the panel warns that “Americans and Pakistanis must understand that these options carry heavy risks and costs. Both sides have a great deal to lose”.
 
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hahahahaha and i didnt even know the pakistanis would be forced to be lured into this topic and be slamed by terrorism blames again hahahaha US is really being played by bollywood

Third_eye is just posting some interesting news....if you don't want to post constructive comments then don't share you wisdom too
 
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I see that possible, infact obvious next step. US will wait only for some more time to see action on Pakistan. It increased it's frequency of drone attacks and it will increase it further. Pakistan does not want to alienate AT but increase drone strike will do it. But all this will not happen tomorrow, US got license to use drone at will.
 
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I see that possible, infact obvious next step. US will wait only for some more time to see action on Pakistan. It increased it's frequency of drone attacks and it will increase it further. Pakistan does not want to alienate AT but increase drone strike will do it. But all this will not happen tomorrow, US got license to use drone at will.

It is just usual business for USA .. like 2 billion aid candy this is also candy for GOP....
To get licence to use more drone and to push GOP to take some more action in North Waziristan.

Lets see what will happen .. there are other countries bigger than Pakistan in terms of GOP... but as we know USA can do any thing for own interest and mostly to save some glory in Afghanistan...
 
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Might as well have Somalia, Guinea, Mali, Chad, Nigeria, Sierra Leone part of the G20 as well, I've heard they'll each become Regional/Global Powers within the next couple of years..
 
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Might as well have Somalia, Guinea, Mali, Chad, Nigeria, Sierra Leone part of the G20 as well, I've heard they'll each become Regional/Global Powers within the next couple of years..

Your really funny, by nominal GDP Pakistan is the 45th biggest economy in the world, it has one of the biggest military's. It has a huge diaspora and expatriate community, that is doing well around the world. It is a nuclear weapon state and it is very close to to super powers, one declining and the other ascending. :china::pakistan::usflag:
 
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Your really funny, by nominal GDP Pakistan is the 45th biggest economy in the world, it has one of the biggest military's. It has a huge diaspora and expatriate community, that is doing well around the world. It is a nuclear weapon state and it is very close to to super powers, one declining and the other ascending. :china::pakistan::usflag:

If Pakistan is the 45th biggest economy, that means there are 44 countries with more economic clout than Pakistan. And I bet those countries are a lot more stable as well.

If Pakistan joins the G20 the whole organization would lose its credibility and become even more useless than it is now.
 
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If Pakistan is the 45th biggest economy, that means there are 44 countries with more economic clout than Pakistan. And I bet those countries are a lot more stable as well.

If Pakistan joins the G20 the whole organization would lose its credibility and become even more useless than it is now.

Apt observation.

Are we looking at a possible G45 instead ?!
 
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If Pakistan is the 45th biggest economy, that means there are 44 countries with more economic clout than Pakistan. And I bet those countries are a lot more stable as well.

If Pakistan joins the G20 the whole organization would lose its credibility and become even more useless than it is now.

Same as if india joins the security council, a country with 80% 800 million people living on half a dollar a day. And with dozens of insurgencies and 1 third of indian states with Naxalite insurrection, what stability???? lol:disagree:
 
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Well you know like many Indians would say, it's not us Pakistanis calling for this to happen. ;)
 
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Also, the correct way to go about this would to measure it by GDP PPP, not nominal. I believe South Africa has just slightly more GDP PPP than Pakistan.
 
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Also, the correct way to go about this would to measure it by GDP PPP, not nominal. I believe South Africa has just slightly more GDP PPP than Pakistan.

According to the WB, GDP PPP, Pakistan is the 26th biggest economy in the world. Thanks SMC bro....:pakistan:
 
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Same as if india joins the security council, a country with 80% 800 million people living on half a dollar a day. And with dozens of insurgencies and 1 third of indian states with Naxalite insurrection, what stability???? lol:disagree:

Don't kid yourself. India is far more stable than Pakistan. There is a reason why Pakistan is in the Top 10 failed states and India is not even in the Top 50.

Furthermore, India has the world's fourth largest economy in PPP terms, one-sixth of the world's population, and one of the most powerful armed forces in the world. That is a pretty good resume to apply for UNSC.

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According to the WB, GDP PPP, Pakistan is the 26th biggest economy in the world. Thanks SMC bro....:pakistan:

That still means that there are 25 countries with larger economies than Pakistan. Is this a G20 or a G26, lol.
 
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Don't kid yourself. India is far more stable than Pakistan. There is a reason why Pakistan is in the Top 10 failed states and India is not even in the Top 50.

Furthermore, India has the world's fourth largest economy in PPP terms, one-sixth of the world's population, and one of the most powerful armed forces in the world. That is a pretty good resume to apply for UNSC.

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That still means that there are 25 countries with larger economies than Pakistan. Is this a G20 or a G26, lol.

Yeah but it's the US that wants us their, with probably China, and Saudi and Turkey, Brazil, Italy, and other friends of Pakistan:smitten:

What is the problem dude, if we get in what it to ya. :victory:
 
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