US & Pakistan Dispute and Tensions over Haqqani group

[TruthSeeker]

Since the USA has little leverage now. It should wait until it has lowered its footprint in Afghanistan to a level that can be supported by non-Pakistani supply routes. Then it should take its revenge on the ISI. There are many ways to take revenge later.

 

[unicorn]

Propaganda News.



Suddenly 647,500 sq km of Afghanistan is completely safe.

All the terrorists they have been fighting for ten years are actually coming from Pakistan.

Great mystery in the history of mysteries is actually solved today.

 

[notorious_eagle]

And what exactly benefit would this bring to the ISI and Pakistan? .

This sort of propaganda reminds me of World War II where the Americans launched massive biased propaganda against the Japanese, making them out to be subhumans whom were just out there to cause rampage in the world.

 

[OrionHunter]

So saying that Pakistan did not create or support TTP is denial.

Man these guys touch new heights of grandeur delusion. Seriously.

Oh really? Go ask your mad hatter Mirza Aslam Beg who helped create the Taliban in the first place. That they split later because of their different strategic aims towards Pakistan is another matter altogether. The TTP was Taliban and continues to be so.

If you had read some books and documents written by well known authors and retired defence personnel who knew the game at that point in time, you wouldn't be posting this rubish!

 

[Roybot]

US Senate ties Pakistan aid to Haqqani crackdown | Pakistan | DAWN.COM

WASHINGTON: A US Senate committee voted on Wednesday to make economic and security aid to Pakistan conditional on its cooperation in fighting militants such as the Haqqani network, which Washington blames for last week’s attack on the US embassy in Kabul.

 

[karan.1970]

So saying that Pakistan did not create or support TTP is denial.

Man these guys touch new heights of grandeur delusion. Seriously.

When you indulge in creating/propping up terrorist militia to control your neighbor (Afghanistan), you cant always expect it to go as structured as raising an army battalion. These ideology based
terrorist cells have a life of their own and mostly mutate into something bigger than what there masters plan them to be.. TTP is a great example...So while Pakistan may not have created it willingly, TTP is a result of Pakistan's policy of proxy war in Afghanistan

 

[jha]

Admiral Mike Mullen said Pakistan’s ISI intelligence agency had to sever all ties with the Haqqani militants, who operate out of bases in the country’s northwest.

A US Senate committee voted on Wednesday to make economic and security aid to Pakistan conditional on its cooperation in fighting militants such as the Haqqani network, which Washington blames for last week’s attack on the US embassy in Kabul.

The Senate Appropriations Committee decision reflected lawmakers’ anger at Islamabad over militants who operate out of Pakistan and battle US troops in Afghanistan.

Washington has pressed Pakistan to go after the Haqqani network, which it believes enjoys sanctuaries in Pakistan’s unruly ethnic Pashtun tribal region on the Afghan border.

The Senate committee did not specify any amount for economic aid to Pakistan for fiscal 2012, leaving it up to the Obama administration to set the level and notify Congress – or provide nothing at all.

“If the administration wants to provide zero, that’d be OK with us,” said Republican Senator Mark Kirk, one of the more vocal critics of Pakistan on the panel.

The committee did approve $1 billion for the Pakistan Counter-insurgency Capability Fund, which was created in 2009 to help Pakistan’s military develop counter-insurgency capabilities to fight Islamist militants within its borders.

But the committee voted to make this aid, as well as any economic aid that is provided, conditional on Pakistan’s cooperating with Washington against several militant groups.

In addition to the Haqqani network, these groups include al Qaeda and the Quetta Shura – the remains of the Afghan Taliban government overthrown and driven into Pakistan by the 2001 US-led invasion of Afghanistan.

They also include Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Punjab-based group blamed for attacks on Mumbai, India, in November 2008.

The restrictions were part of a foreign aid bill that the committee approved and sent to the Senate floor. It will have to be reconciled with the House of Representatives, where lawmakers in one subcommittee have voted similar restrictions.

Pakistan also gets US military aid via the Pentagon budget. But Washington is already withholding $800 million of that aid this year as ties have come under mounting strain.

Many lawmakers have been calling for aid to Pakistan to be reduced since US special forces found and killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin laden in a Pakistan military town on May 2.

Washington has allocated about $20 billion for Pakistan over the last decade. In fiscal 2010, Congress approved $1.7 billion for economic aid for Pakistan, and $2.7 billion in security aid, the Congressional Research Service says.

http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/22/us-senate-ties-pakistan-aid-to-haqqani-crackdown.html

 

[Areesh]

Good.

 

[AkhandIndia]

either refuse aid or take aid,you will have to take action.
you cant avoid it

 

[F-16_Falcon]

Something happen, Pasha off for DC to please his masters. How many times he went to US this year?

 

[AkhandIndia]

Something happen, Pasha off for DC to please his masters. How many times he went to US this year?

then take action against haqani......according to washington post..ur links are shown to pasha.

 

[TaimiKhan]

When you indulge in creating/propping up terrorist militia to control your neighbor (Afghanistan), you cant always expect it to go as structured as raising an army battalion. These ideology based
terrorist cells have a life of their own and mostly mutate into something bigger than what there masters plan them to be.. TTP is a great example...So while Pakistan may not have created it willingly, TTP is a result of Pakistan's policy of proxy war in Afghanistan

TTP is the result of being an ally to the US for its support in launching a war against Afghanistan.

But as you said, TTP got mutated and now their objective is something else.

 

[Devil Soul]

US makes 'all' Pakistan assistance subject to action against Haqqani Network
By Huma Imtiaz
Published: September 22, 2011
NEW YORK: Ratcheting up pressure on Pakistan, the US Senate Appropriations Committee passed a bill that makes ‘all’ US financial assistance to the Government of Pakistan privy to conditions of cooperation against the Hqqani network and other terror groups associated with al Qaeda.
According to a press release issued by the committee, the Senate passed the Department of State, Foreign Operations and Related Programs Appropriations bill for the fiscal year 2012 by a 28-2 vote in favour.
The bill makes available $161.4 million for State Department operations in Pakistan, but “does not specify amounts for assistance for Pakistan.” The committee also voted to provide one billion dollars for the Pakistan Counterinsurgency Capability Fund.
The press release stated that “the bill includes strengthened restrictions on assistance for Pakistan by conditioning all funds to the Government of Pakistan on cooperation against the Haqqani network, al Qaeda, and other terrorist organisations, with a waiver, and funding based on achieving benchmarks.”
The conditions on aid imposed by the Senate Appropriations Committee comes after months of pressure on Pakistan to act against terrorist organisations, especially in wake of the Abbottabad raid in May this year that led to the death of al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden.
In recent weeks, the US government has upped the ante on Pakistan to take action against the Haqqani network, whom it blames attacking on the US Embassy and NATO Headquarters in Kabul on September 13, and the attacks on US soldiers in Wardak on September 11.
On September 20, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen called on the ISI to stop supporting proxies as part of its strategy. The same day, ISI chief General Ahmed Shuja Pasha met his CIA counterpart David Petraeus and senior White House officials during a one-day visit to Washington, where the Haqqani network remained the main focus of talks. This follows a series of high level meetings between Mullen and Chief of Army Staff General Parvez Kayani and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar.
Pakistan and US have also agreed to reduce the footprint of US troops in Pakistan from 300 to between 100 and 150 on the request of the Pakistani government.
US makes ‘all’ Pakistan assistance subject to action against Haqqani Network – The Express Tribune

 

[Devil Soul]

all what i read in this article is .. info is uncorroborated... lil info avail suggest ... no official proof .. blah blah blah.... it seems the American especially obama admin is desperate to put all the blame on some one else as the next election are fast approaching...

 

[Awesome]

No names of these officials given to get this verified? "Some officials", "another official". What fantastic yellow journalism.

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Since the USA has little leverage now. It should wait until it has lowered its footprint in Afghanistan to a level that can be supported by non-Pakistani supply routes. Then it should take its revenge on the ISI. There are many ways to take revenge later.

Look its silly. ISI is not stupid enough to attack US targets. It cannot beat the US down - everyone knows that, especially the smart guys in the ISI. There is an ongoing tussle with the US and we intend to fight it on ideological grounds where by showing the US position is morally weak.

These type of yellow journalism pieces are supported by the USG to somehow turn the tides on its own morally bankrupt position.