US & Pakistan Dispute and Tensions over Haqqani group

[AkhandIndia]

The real faces of Indians are exposed here. Send them home permanantly.



Lol, you didn't answer my question.

wat faces??

 

[hunter_hunted]

U.S. officials say they ARE LOOKING for evidence that directly links elements of Pakistan's powerful spy agency to this week's assault on the U.S. Embassy and coalition headquarters in Kabul



Means they will do whatever to connect this attack with ISI great just great. They should be bombed on regular basis, no mercy for these jerks

 

[VelocuR]

wat faces??

read post #14, 27. Correct by wise Indian, please kindly stop be clown.

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U.S. officials say they ARE LOOKING for evidence that directly links elements of Pakistan's powerful spy agency to this week's assault on the U.S. Embassy and coalition headquarters in Kabul



Means they will do whatever to connect this attack with ISI great just great. They should be bombed on regular basis, no mercy for these jerks

Do you remember, after OBL raids, US Navy seal found more computer harddrives and other specific informations, they bascially said, it will be very surprising secret information in investigated it. Maybe connect to ISI or RAW. LOL. Regularly BS.

 

[President Camacho]

The whole world knows where what comes from.

Only thing is, there are no accusations unless one is about to play an unexpected card. Either they have undeniable proof, or they are up to some drastic steps. The ISI would need the services of its smartest of officers to counter what is about to come.

Gotta be attentive for a month or two, and within that period we will witness what this accusation is all about.

 

[Dharmachakra]

Looks like the americans are also getting infected by the indians who have been sick for decades from Pakistan phobia.

You do all the sins and when someone blames or points finger,you call them phobic?

Nice way of covering dirt under carpet.

 

[SMC]

How about Pakistani soldiers on a UN missions..??? Fair game.. with their deaths being celebrated ??

Again, not the same thing. They're not occupying the country or ruling it.

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Why should he weep ?

Actually your Army/ISI should weep for indirectly and sometimes directly causing their deaths because all these are nothing but Pakistan's gamble gone horribly wrong.

As they say Karma is a bi@tch.

Delusion has not limits for bharatis.

 

[Areesh]

As they say Karma is a bi@tch.

So Indian mujahideen is the product of this bi@tch

 

[karan.1970]

So Indian mujahideen is the product of this bi@tch

IM is a product of Project Karachi.. And look what that project did to Karachi

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Again, not the same thing. They're not occupying the country or ruling it.

Splitting hair now?? Isnt the Prime minister of Afghanistan an Afghan ?? We guys keep fighting on everything under the sun, but should atleast agree on respecting the uniform. If nothing else, atleast because this is a defence forum ...

 

[WAQAS119]

U.S Should take some kind of an action against pakistan

Pakistan is the epicenter of terrorism..US is right !!

Sometimes i get a sick of this news from US...Is this a news that US suspects about terrorism involvement of Pakistan? Dude...this is the fact that USA itself knows from last 10 years...Inspite of that it is the US ...who is still supporting and providing aid and arms to Pakistan....such a double standard...

May be the sickness is Pakistan's affinity towards terrorism and extremism.. India being closer was infected earlier. USA being a little far away took some time to get there...

Such a hate for Pakistan on Pakistani forum???? Hypocrites.

 

[Areesh]

IM is a product of Project Karachi.. And look what that project did to Karachi

Ignorance is a bliss. Both for Indians on PDF and Indian mujahideen.

 

[Drawn_Sword_of_God]

lets asume we are the epicenter of terrorisme...
NOW BITCHES DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT

 

[Drawn_Sword_of_God]

IM is a product of Project Karachi.. And look what that project did to Karachi

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Splitting hair now?? Isnt the Prime minister of Afghanistan an Afghan ?? We guys keep fighting on everything under the sun, but should atleast agree on respecting the uniform. If nothing else, atleast because this is a defence forum ...

lol, is it that hard to understand what the difference between, invading, occupying and being there for a UN peace mission?

 

[PakShaheen79]

So mean to say that Pakistan is okay with them if they do not attack Pakistani force. PA at mercy of these groups?

Then what if NATO invades N.W? You stil believes N.W is a part of Pakistan?

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We know who is our enemy, and you do not seem to be or pretending do not know.

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Why can't PA send the guys who are waiting to sneak into Kashmir to N.W?

No. It means it is Pakistan is OK with them if they do not attack Pakistani people and forces both. No PA is not at the mercy of any group that is your wet dream only. Thing is PA, just like any other army, would NOT like to get involved in a war with a group of tribes who pose no threat to Pakistani state or forces or people.

Problem is, everyone knows their enemy. We have our enemy in NWA and that is why 5 brigades of PA are already there but this enemy is not Haqqani network rather Afghan based TTP.

 

[lem34]

‘Haqqani group no longer has sanctuaries in Pakistan’


ISLAMABAD: The Haqqani network, one of the most feared insurgent groups in Afghanistan, would take part in peace talks with the Kabul government and the United States only if the Taliban did, its leader Sirajuddin Haqqani told Reuters on Saturday.


Sirajuddin said the group had rejected several peace gestures from the United States and President Hamid Karzai’s government in the past because they were an attempt to “create divisions” between militant groups.

Any further efforts to do so would fail, added Sirajuddin, who is described by US forces in Afghanistan as one of their most lethal enemies. The United States has posted a bounty of up to dollar 5 million for him.

Washington has repeatedly pressed Pakistan to go after the Haqqani network it believes is based in the unruly North Waziristan tribal region near the Afghan border.

“They offered us very very important positions but we rejected and told them they would not succeed in their nefarious designs. They wanted to divide us,” said Sirajuddin.

“We would support whatever solution our Shura members suggest for the future of Afghanistan,” he said, referring to the Afghan Taliban leadership.

The Haqqani group no longer has sanctuaries in Pakistan, and instead felt secure inside Afghanistan, said Sirajuddin in a telephone interview from an undisclosed location.

“Gone are the days when we were hiding in the mountains along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

Now we consider ourselves more secure in Afghanistan besides the Afghan people.

Senior military and police officials are with us,” he said.

“There are sincere people in the Afghan government who are loyal to the Taliban as they know our goal is the liberation of our homeland from the clutches of occupying forces.”

High on the US Hit List

Defence Secretary Leon Panetta warned Pakistan on Wednesday the United States would “do everything we can” to defend US forces from Pakistan-based militants staging attacks in Afghanistan.

US officials, including Panetta, suspect militants from the Haqqani network were behind Tuesday’s rocket attack on the US embassy compound in Kabul, as well as a recent truck bomb that wounded 77 members of the American forces.

The Haqqani network is perhaps the most divisive issue between allies Pakistan and the United States, whose ties have been heavily strained by the unilateral American raid that killed Osama bin Laden in a Pakistani town in May.

Pakistan’s Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence, or ISI, has long been suspected of maintaining ties with the Haqqani network, cultivated during the 1980s when Sirajuddin’s father, Jalaluddin Haqqani, was a notorious battlefield commander against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.

Pakistan denies allegations it has ties to the Haqqanis.

If it is confirmed that the Haqqanis have left North Waziristan, American pressure on Pakistan to eliminate the group may ease.

Haqqani refrains from attacking the Pakistani state, and analysts say Pakistan sees the Haqqanis as a counterweight to the growing influence of rival India in Afghanistan.

US officials have played down the significance of Tuesday’s attack on Kabul’s diplomatic enclave, which showered rockets on Western embassies in a show of insurgent strength.

It was the longest and most audacious militant attack on the Afghan capital in the decade since the Taliban was ousted from power and a stark reminder of insurgents’ reach as Western forces start to return home.

Five police and 11 civilians, including children, were killed and 19 people wounded in the multi-pronged attacks, which included three suicide bombings.

Asked if the Haqqani network was behind the assault, Sirajuddin said: “For some reasons, I would not like to claim that fighters of our group had carried out the recent attack on US embassy and Nato headquarters.

Our central leadership, particularly senior members of the Shura, suggested I should keep quiet in future if the US and its allies suffer in future.”

The Haqqani network is believed to have extensive ties with some of the world’s most dangerous militant groups, including al Qaeda, in North Waziristan and elsewhere.

While Jalaluddin is still revered by militants, ill health forced him to pass on leadership of the group to Sirajuddin, who is seen as far more ruthless.

Asked whether there are 10,000 Haqqani fighters as some media reports have suggested, Sirajuddin laughed and said: “That figure is actually less than the actual number.”

 

[SBD-3]

No. It means it is Pakistan is OK with them if they do not attack Pakistani people and forces both. No PA is not at the mercy of any group that is your wet dream only. Thing is PA, just like any other army, would NOT like to get involved in a war with a group of tribes who pose no threat to Pakistani state or forces or people.

Problem is, everyone knows their enemy. We have our enemy in NWA and that is why 5 brigades of PA are already there but this enemy is not Haqqani network rather Afghan based TTP.

Exactly, thats what i was suggesting, If Indians consider Haqqani Network a threat, they can request US to accept their troops in Afghanistan to fight Haqqani Network....Its Hilarious how do they come forward with their theories