US NAVAL BASE ,On BD !! True Or Lie ??

[kalu_miah]

USA and China are the two main powers in this region and the world, India being the third one which has the most influence in Bangladesh due to their numerous agents among our ranks.

If USA wants something done, it will get its way, regardless of what some China and Indian supporter thinks in Bangladesh. Bangladesh is for Bangladeshi's and their long term interest, not to serve China or Indian interest.

We should choose what is best for Bangladesh. And saying that USA has caused problems in all countries is simplistic. There are countries who could take good advantage of US influence and there are others who did not, it all depends on the particular situation, it cannot be generalized.

And for all those China and Indian supporters, note how many of these people have searched for and found a good life in China or India. So let a different reality present itself in the future and we will worry about it then about China or India, now is not the time.

 

[Mercenary]

USA and China are the two main powers in this region and the world, India being the third one which has the most influence in Bangladesh due to their numerous agents among our ranks.

If USA wants something done, it will get its way, regardless of what some China and Indian supporter thinks in Bangladesh. Bangladesh is for Bangladeshi's and their long term interest, not to serve China or Indian interest.

We should choose what is best for Bangladesh. And saying that USA has caused problems in all countries is simplistic. There are countries who could take good advantage of US influence and there are others who did not, it all depends on the particular situation, it cannot be generalized.

And for all those China and Indian supporters, note how many of these people have searched for and found a good life in China or India. So let a different reality present itself in the future and we will worry about it then about China or India, now is not the time.

Why doesnt Bangaldesh purge all these Indian agents within their ranks?

 

[kalu_miah]

Thank you for your effort. But ASEAN block closely related to ethnic cultural geographic and economic block. We just dont fit in there. Whether we like it or not we got to stick with SAARC. We have another forum called BIMSTEC.

Either you are out of your mind or have no connection to reality. ASEAN has many different ethnic groups and cultures, we will just be one more among them, no big deal.

SAARC or BIMSTEC? We did not get independence in 1947 to go back under Hindu rule did we? Didn't we have enough of Indian interference already since 1947 and of being a vassal state in 1971? If you have relatives in India, that I am afraid is your personal problem, please do not mix it with national interest of 160 million people.

Note that even RAWamy president Zillur Rahman thanking Laos ambassador for supporting observer status of Bangladesh in ASEAN. It is that important a national diplomatic agenda under our national look east policy and even RAWamy Indian stooges pay lip service to it to gain popularity.

Why doesnt Bangaldesh purge all these Indian agents within their ranks?

Its because we have a thing called democracy and we do not kill people because of different opinion or even treason, hopefully we just remove them from seat of power and relegate them to opposition, although current RAWamy Indian stooges are killing people in the opposition and is more of a fascist party it seems, judging from their actions.

 

[TopCat]

Either you are out of your mind or have no connection to reality. ASEAN has many different ethnic groups and cultures, we will just be one more among them, no big deal.

SAARC or BIMSTEC? We did not get independence in 1947 to go back under Hindu rule did we? Didn't we have enough of Indian interference already since 1947 and of being a vassal state in 1971? If you have relatives in India, that I am afraid is your personal problem, please do not mix it with national interest of 160 million people.

Just take off your tinted glass. If it really a integration of Afghanistan to Bangladesh then it will be a Muslim dominated region not Hindu.

 

[Talha Khan Abid]

Either you are out of your mind or have no connection to reality. ASEAN has many different ethnic groups and cultures, we will just be one more among them, no big deal.

Sir the only reason ASean would take Bangladesh in its group is to get easy land access to India a market big. Asean and India are good trading partner they will never fight India for Bangladesh.

Just take off your tinted glass. If it really a integration of Afghanistan to Bangladesh then it will be a Muslim dominated region not Hindu.

Sir it will not be muslim dominated, 200 million pakistan, 150 million bangladesh, 150 million India, 35 million afghanistan thats 535 million muslim only . 1 billion Hindus in India, 30 million in nepal, 10 million in Bangladesh, 3 million in Sri lanka. Also buddishts same as hindus.

So muslim will not dominate sir.

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

Sir the only reason ASean would take Bangladesh in its group is to get easy land access to India a market big. Asean and India are good trading partner they will never fight India for Bangladesh.



Sir it will not be muslim dominated, 200 million pakistan, 150 million bangladesh, 150 million India, 35 million afghanistan thats 535 million muslim only . 1 billion Hindus in India, 30 million in nepal, 10 million in Bangladesh, 3 million in Sri lanka. Also buddishts same as hindus.

So muslim will not dominate sir.

Muslim birth rate is really high then the Indian hindus. I would like to remind you that in India there are 350 million untouchable hindus those who are leaving hinduism at an alarming rate. On top of it many hindus of other castes are also leaving it. So in 2 decades to 3 decades from Bangladesh to Afghanistan it will be muslim majority land. I would like to further add that the number of muslims in India is much higher then official estimates and some people put it in between 20-30% of total Indian population.

 

[Syed Naved]

As far as the rest of the world is concerned the EU is more of a economic power than a military block.

Just 2-3 US aircraft carrier battlegroups are at least as powerful as the whole of the EU navy combined.
The EU's tanks and land-based airplanes will not have much relevance in Asian conflicts unless there
is a long-term military build-up with basing rights.

I am also curious as to this 30-50 year time that is foreacast when most(even westerrn sources) now predict
that China's economy will be larger than the West combined by or before 2030.

Remember that China will catch up very quickly in US dollar terms as it's currency will keep appreciating
against the Dollar/Euro for the next decade or more, so just saying 7.4 trillion versus 34 trillion
makes little sense.

I think you get the xplanation now, kalu miah . ukbengali told the thing tht I want to say.
If you Ignore China & say like this , "Pakistan and Bangladesh have very different geopolitical situations due to difference in geography. For ASEAN, USA is much more important, even more so than China, so we need to go with a US supported ASEAN, it is quite simple if you think about it" thn it's completely folishness. In Present , avoiding / ignoring China is a folishness .Moreover China helped us no less thn USA . Infct In Some Case She Did More Than USA.So whats the problm prefering china !! can u xplain,kalumiah ?

 

[Mercenary]

Its because we have a thing called democracy and we do not kill people because of different opinion or even treason, hopefully we just remove them from seat of power and relegate them to opposition, although current RAWamy Indian stooges are killing people in the opposition and is more of a fascist party it seems, judging from their actions.

But can't they be charged for treason?

Arent they working for Indian interests over Bangladeshi interests and thus committing an act of treason?

Unleash RAB on them

 

[eastwatch]

@ If the then East Pakistan can be a member of SEATO (South East Asia Treaty Organization) whose HQ was at Manila, than why not ASEAN ????? Association of South East Asian Nation (ASEAN) is economic forum where as SEATO was a military forum. From the very beginning China was against this ASEAN.

@ In the present contest SEATO is no more alive but its economic forum still exists.

Look, SEATO and CENTO (Central Treaty Organization) were military treaty and cannot be compared with economic blocks like EU and ASEAN. These are regional blocks of which India or Bangladesh will have no entry. ASEAN Secretariate never said anything about the possible entry of BD. Can BD enter ASEAN because PDF BD members are wishing so?

 

[Syed Naved]

Your opinions prove nothing.

If China is "stealing" resources, then what has the US been doing since WW2?

Your arguments are not very well thought out or explained.

Ever heard of alternative shipments from Central Asia/Russia?

Still waiting for you to explain why China will never beat the US in total miliatry strength. Make a claim, then you back it up with logical arguments.

Absolutely Right. Today Not Only China Moves Forward To Become A Superpower But Much more Than That.You're Saying " America This,America That " but the Truth Is " America Is Nothing Without Israel ".
China Which Is Now Not Just A Economicaly Riched Country But It Has The Ability To Copy USA Technology.Dont Forget China Is Also A Nuclear Weapon State.When American Economists, Military Xpert Can't Ignore China , How You Can Ignore it.
So saying like these... is nothing but unawareness.so i completely support ukbengali on this matter

 

[eastwatch]

Sir the only reason ASean would take Bangladesh in its group is to get easy land access to India a market big. Asean and India are good trading partner they will never fight India for Bangladesh.

Thank you for your well thought comments. Finally, I have read a good logic from someone that in order to get into Indian market ASEAN will have to take Bangladesh in that block.

 

[eastwatch]

Muslim birth rate is really high then the Indian hindus. I would like to remind you that in India there are 350 million untouchable hindus those who are leaving hinduism at an alarming rate. On top of it many hindus of other castes are also leaving it. So in 2 decades to 3 decades from Bangladesh to Afghanistan it will be muslim majority land. I would like to further add that the number of muslims in India is much higher then official estimates and some people put it in between 20-30% of total Indian population.

For how many centuries the poor Muslims of South Asia will keep on believing in this number game? When in the past has a demographic number had brought dominance of a people over another group of people. I just do not understand how the uneducated, poor Muslims can ever dominate over any groups of well-educated non-Muslims just by shear number?

It is not the number of heads that should be counted. Rather, it is the volume of brains that should be counted. In terms of brains all other religious groups have gone a lightyear ahead of the Muslims.

Muslims will always be dominated by others because they are not enlightened with education and believe in the devine interventions on their behalf which always fails to come by.

 

[Md Akmal]

If 20/25 years back Chinese troops used to fight with PT shoes, definitely 40 years back their situation was worse than that possibly bare footed. And 40 years back they showed their performance fighting india and annexing Aksai Chin which is an area of more than 32k sq. km. Now they have one aircraft carrier with 2/3 more upcoming, what can they do now? They have the combination of economic and military strength now. One issue they are going to heavily suffer from is the conflict with neighbors over South China sea. Hope they'll not act foolish like india does in such issue.

@ My dear PlanetSoldier, you have to see the cronological development of the Army of a Nation. All the South Asian countries were the British colony and as such they had a good experiences of fighting both the World Wars. Now let's discuss one by one:

1. Pakistan Army: Pakistan Army is definitely is much more efficient and organised than Indian Army. Though the Pakistan Army inherited from the British Army but soon after it got independence it came closer with the Western Army. Pakistan made a Defence Pact with Armerica. Pakistan was the member of CENTO and SEATO. So for almost 15 to 20 years Pakistan got lot of armament from the Western countries and its organisation were also modernised in line with NATO. However, after 1965 war it was forced to tilt towards China. So, Pakistan followed all the latest Battle Procedures and their other logistic elements were also modernised. As such compared to Indian army Pakistan Army was considered as better and I hope still they are better.

2. Indian Army: Though India also inherited from the British Army but after its independance due to the Neru' Peace Policy remained isolated in military developments. But soon after the War of 1962 it started recovering and finally it displaced in 1971 war. But yet still it is lagging behind Pakistan. Most of the Indian armament belongs to Russian origin.

3. Bangladesh Army: Same like Pakistan but still we are lagging behind in arms manufacturing.

4. Sri-Lankan Army: It's Army is now-days is also very strong but once the Tamils revolted in early 80's they had only 36,000 regular troops. See how they crushed the Tamil Insurgency.

5. Chinese Army/People's Army: The whole system of Chinese army recruitment is pecuilar in nature. Once upon a time Chines army was well organised under General Chiankaishak. They had Army, Airforce and Navy. But once the Chinese Revolution started under the leadership of Mao Se Tung, he had to fight with the regular army of Chiankaishak. Soon Chiankaishak along with Army, Navy and Airforce crossed the Pacific and organised himself at Formoza/Taiwan. At that time the Chinese Revolutionary Army had no Navy and Airforce. Now, who all were in Mao Se Tung's People's army, all the labour class, pleasants and other common people of the society. So in the true sense other than the rifle man he had nothing. Soon Chinese Army organised the other organs of the Army, Navy and Airforce. Under these critical stage hurriedly they joined in the Korean war against the American in support of North Korea. Chinese Army and Korean army were bitten back. Many Chinese captured army even denied to returned back to China. After Korean War little bit development of Chinese Army went on with the help of North Korea and USSR. But soon help from USSR were cut off. In 1962 China attacked India and captured a huge territory and than suddenly withdrew to its own location. Than she decided to attack Vietnam and captured a huge area. Here the capabilty of Chinese army was leaked out. It was a disaster for the Chinese army for the logistical reason. Soon they unitarilly withdrew. Chinese Army is not an organised army. Their technic, tactics, strategy, battle Procedures, logistic system are still in a primitive stage. Their troops individual equipments such as helmet, belt, water bottle, various packing materials etc were not proper. Their troops and officers are master in particular jobs. But presently their Army is comming up but it is too late. These sort of training the American army had long time before may be 70 years back. Just 7/10 years the Chinese army has came across "How to fight in the Built up areas".

 

[CaPtAiN_pLaNeT]

For how many centuries the poor Muslims of South Asia will keep on believing in this number game? When in the past has a demographic number had brought dominance of a people over another group of people. I just do not understand how the uneducated, poor Muslims can ever dominate over any groups of well-educated non-Muslims just by shear number?

It is not the number of heads that should be counted. Rather, it is the volume of brains that should be counted. In terms of brains all other religious groups have gone a lightyear ahead of the Muslims.

Muslims will always be dominated by others because they are not enlightened with education and believe in the devine interventions on their behalf which always fails to come by.

I did not talk about dominance but about possible total number of muslims in South Asia. I personally do not think any Bangladeshi muslim will try to dominate India. But the lower caste people may emerge as a bloc which may seek their own right or separation from India and this is India's biggest threat. Not to mention other part of India's people also claiming the same.

N you are right for now western countries are ahead of muslim country mainly the reason is most of the muslim countries were under colonialism and did not achieve any development during that time. On top of it they were late to adapt to the new world realities.

But if you look at present the whole world scenario is changing. Countries like Iran, Turkey, Indonesia etc producing a huge amount of science and engineering graduate. For instance Iran alone producing more engineering graduate then US, EU, Australia and Canada combined. Soon it will turn into quality. So within next 2-3 decades it will be a complete different world scenario. In Bangladesh also number of science and engineering graduates is expected to rise exponentially.

Just have some self belief...and work hard to achieve your target...

 

[Syed Naved]

For how many centuries the poor Muslims of South Asia will keep on believing in this number game? When in the past has a demographic number had brought dominance of a people over another group of people. I just do not understand how the uneducated, poor Muslims can ever dominate over any groups of well-educated non-Muslims just by shear number?

It is not the number of heads that should be counted. Rather, it is the volume of brains that should be counted. In terms of brains all other religious groups have gone a lightyear ahead of the Muslims.

Muslims will always be dominated by others because they are not enlightened with education and believe in the devine interventions on their behalf which always fails to come by.

Sorry To Say That, Are You A Prophet Or A Magician Who Can See The Future Or Can Hear News From Future U said very illogicaly tht," Muslims will always be dominated by others because they are not enlightened with education and believe in the devine interventions on their behalf " , here I Oppose.If Muslims Were Un-educated as you say they could never invent several inventions before christian civilizations.If muslims are un-educated then no muslim nation today,cannot become able to produce nuks.Iran,Pakistan,Turk...Almost Each and everyone is raising.Yes you can say this about bd , but yes very soom there will be nuclear power plant in BD in near future coz in parliamnt the bill has been passed.
If Quran's prophecy about Christians & Yahudi Become True Today , Then About Muslim Ofcourse Be True.
Yes In Some Country Muslims are ignorent,but you cant say almost every muslim nation are uneducated .

In kazakhstan literacy rate : 99.6 %
In Tazikhstan L.R : 99.6 %
In Azarbaijan L.R : 99.5 %
Turkmenistan L.R : 99.5 %
Kyrgyzstan L.R : 99.3 %
Albania : 99.2 %
bosnia : 99 %
in palestain : 94.6 %
but yes in BD only 55%
In saudia 85 % male and 70 females are educated .so how can you say muslims nations will remains always behind and we are un-educated !!