US Marines brawl with Filipinos in KTV lounge

[Beast]

You see the Filipino desperate to protect the US marine, so quick to apple polish the American and put all blame on Philippine police..

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...illing-transgender-filipina-article-1.2451142

Maybe in these case, the US marine is no fault too. The US marine has every right to kill tyranny. American are higher class while Filipino are dirt. Filipino forumer here do not care abit about their own citizen becos they are from higher class , has internet access and earn a good pay. Who care about those lower class Filipino tyranny or poor man. They deserve to be stamp and insult by mighty American soldier. Philippine needs US, sacrificing a few lower class is absolutely worth it. Becos it does not affect higher class of Filipino.

All lower class Filipino shall rise up and revolt those against those Filipino , throw out the American who destroyed this country.

 

[帅的一匹]

Just let them fight, Maid and master.

 

[Cossack25A1]

To be honest, the Marine started this, but the DNP Cop escalated the whole thing in a new level.

It would still not alright for a civilian to banish weapon on such highly charged situation, but we are talking about the police, they are supposed to be trained with Firearms safety.

Problem is, what we saw in this 10 minutes video is a perfect video on what you should not do when you are drunk. It basically hit all the right note on firearms safety under the influence of alcohol...

Both side were to blame, but it was not the Marine faults this (tassel) happens, that cop basically have it coming banishing a weapon, drunk as a skunk, I mean, there would be casualty if the situation is not handle correctly, and the Marine was right to wrestle the sidearm out of that drunk cop hand. I would have done the same, on-off duty. In fact, the moment he pull out his side, it is actually his Filipino police colleague job to disarm him, not the Marine, and yet, they did nothing...That concerned me.



Sigh.........many people don't understand one simple rule regarding firearms handling.

Don't pull your side arms unless you are ready to shoot something.

Pulling the weapon is an action itself weight more heavier than actually shooting a person. police should be well train at this and to be honest. If this is what you said, that cops in Philippine generally pull out their side arms willy-nilly, then there is a problem with the system, which needed more training to stop, otherwise the police is just as dangerous as the criminal..........

Well the Marine should have not made that tapping of bottle while the Filipino cop should have not immediately drew his pistol, and should have not that pistol if he is not on duty.

Corruption and too much bureaucracy are issues which affect the quality of training of Filipino cops.

 

[rott]

That is sometimes... uh actually that is an issue with local Filipino police, specially under influence of alcohol; drawing guns immediately.

Anyways, you should know the purpose of this thread with a misleading title; trying to make a wedge between Filipinos and Americans, and basically a bait thread for the Chinese.

The Filipino cop is at fault in the news, but given the nature of PK Defence, expect the Chinese to come here very soon.

Well the Marine should have not made that tapping of bottle while the Filipino cop should have not immediately drew his pistol, and should have not that pistol if he is not on duty.

Corruption and too much bureaucracy are issues which affect the quality of training of Filipino cops.

You know what I hate most?
I hate and disrespect people who doesn't pride themselves.
Just too cheap if you ask me.

 

[asad71]

I don't know why you can try and argue stuff that recorded in a video.

First, at 4:52. The Cop pull the side arm out of the black bag, IN FULL VIEW.
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He is pulling it out IN FRONT of the American, if I was simply checking my sidearm, I won't,

A.) Full it out all the way, look at the bag, feel it was still there is enough.
B.) I won't display it in front of the "aggressor, turn my back behind him and check it if I have to"

That is highly likely the American know the pistol exist at this point. As he is showing it in front of the Americans right across him.

Then, he POINTED the gun to the American a few second later.

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You can see the firearms and its bag/holster is still separated, full display of his side arm, this time, pointing it to an American. Basically, a minute later, he was disarmed.

The problem for your story is. There are no need for the police to check the firearm in the first place as you claim, the firearms is ALWAYS in the bag, until it was pull out for "Checking", I get the cop took the bag (with firearms) from the passed out colleague, but checking the pistol AT FULL DISPLAY?? Did that cop think the American have X-ray vision that they can see through the bag and "KNOW" psychically know there was a pistol in it? Secure the firearms is okay at that point, even it is at you said, "CHECKING" the firearm is not warranted. As nobody know that piece exist beside that 3 Filipino policeman.

Another issue is, that cop is DRUNK. You are not supposed to handle firearms when you are drunk, if I show up on a sport shooting event or at a gun range, waving my piece and checking my firearms in a clearly drunk state, what do you think the range's ranger would do? Sit there and laugh?

The third point is, those policemen should not have a firearm in the first place, they were off duty, they were DRUNK AND PASSED OUT. I cannot see any official reason for them to carry a side arm, in a sport bag, drunk and pass out in a pub.

If you did all three in country like the US and Australia, you will be fired from your job. This is very simple

LOL, if you think the American is at fault, and the Filipino is right to do what they did in this video, then I laugh at your ignorant.

Yankees' new pals Burma and India will soon face similar situations.

 

[jhungary]

wow. didn't catch that pointing, I thought they just brandished it!. Even more kudos to the marines, holy sh*t that's just crazy that he actually pointed it at them over a beer prank! They should definitely not just be suspended but fired and barred from any jobs involving firearms.

The disarming was definitely the right move, as he showed he didn't know how to appropriately handle a firearm.

lol, I think most of them didn't even watch the video before jumping into conclusion. Which is, as always, Americans were bad.

I would probably done the same thing...........And that guy in glasses should have never handle a firearm in real life, I don't think he should handle an airsoft like that..

Well the Marine should have not made that tapping of bottle while the Filipino cop should have not immediately drew his pistol, and should have not that pistol if he is not on duty.

Corruption and too much bureaucracy are issues which affect the quality of training of Filipino cops.

lol, look at how these Chinese member jump up and down here Do remember, those are the same people keep admonishing the Cop in US have way too much power to abuse.....Yet, their stance is on the obviously wrong Filipino policemen here.

Anyway, I think both the Marine and the cop would have some degree of punishment they are looking forward to.

 

[TaiShang]

This is the treatment you would get if you invited a foreign contingency on your soil to do your bid for "psychological" protection and assuagement.

If one had a little historical consciousness, one would simply look at all the social and moral ills permanent foreign military deployment brings about in Japan and Korea.

Consider the impact of such events on national psyche and pride. This is how mentalities are colonized; which is worse than material colonization.

 

[Beast]

So I guess in China, it is okay to point guns at everyone...

Oh wait!

The CCP don't deploy the PAP to point guns at people, they send the PLA instead, sometimes with tanks!

Both the Americans who made the prank and ye Filipino cop who drew the gun are at fault.

Happy now, Chicom?!

In Philippine, Filipino has no freedom and has to bow to American, if not they will beat you up or murder by them. The American will the most jail a few years, living in luxury cell. Becos Philippine government worship them.

I has no such problem in China of living in fear of being assault or kill by American for no reason.

 

[jhungary]

Yankees' new pals Burma and India will soon face similar situations.

What situation?

You do know military is just like any civil society, crime will still be within the Military community. Saying this is a problem is like saying American tourist or Chinese tourist will not commit any crime in someone else's country.

The only reason you hear about this is because US is the only country in this world that have global deployment in the world, you will still see and hear other troop committed crime (from rape to murder) overseas from time to time.

In this particular case, again, what the marine did is a harmless practical joke, is it disrespectful? Yes, but is it illegal? I don't see any Filipino law prohibit tapping a beer bottle in pub. You can laugh about it, you can be pissed, but did it warrant someone pulling a gun out and confront the Marine??

Maybe it make sense where you live, it does not make any sense where I live.

 

[bloo]

Yankees' new pals Burma and India will soon face similar situations.

You kidding right?
We are not as patient as the Japanese or Filipinos, with our mob culture some if not all of them may end up dying if they pull $hit like this?

 

[jhungary]

This is the treatment you would get if you invited a foreign contingency on your soil to do your bid for "psychological" protection and assuagement.

If one had a little historical consciousness, one would simply look at all the social and moral ills permanent foreign military deployment brings about in Japan and Korea.

Consider the impact of such events on national psyche and pride. This is how mentalities are colonized; which is worse than material colonization.

So you are suggesting those Filipino Policemen should gun down those Marine to "defend" their national pride? Because they tap your mate's beer? Now that they are disarmed, should they be committing seppuku because of their inability to defend their national pride?

Now I know why everybody love China. LOL

 

[Beast]

What situation?

You do know military is just like any civil society, crime will still be within the Military community. Saying this is a problem is like saying American tourist or Chinese tourist will not commit any crime in someone else's country.

The only reason you hear about this is because US is the only country in this world that have global deployment in the world, you will still see and hear other troop committed crime (from rape to murder) overseas from time to time.

In this particular case, again, what the marine did is a harmless practical joke, is it disrespectful? Yes, but is it illegal? I don't see any Filipino law prohibit tapping a beer bottle in pub. You can laugh about it, you can be pissed, but did it warrant someone pulling a gun out and confront the Marine?? Maybe it make sense where you live, it does not make any sense where I live.

To you is a prank, to other countries and culture. Its a different thing. That is a typical ignorant attitude display by American who believe their standard and culture is the benchmark and all other culture or foreign attitude is wrong and distasteful.

This is the reason why American are so hated throughout the world. When US goes vietnam, they bring their surfboard and baseball bat, drinking US beer and womanising of the vietnamese woman. Totally ignore local culture and as expected fail terribly in vietnam.

 

[jhungary]

To you is a prank, to other countries and culture. Its a different thing. That is a typical ignorant attitude display by American who believe their standard and culture is the benchmark and all other culture or foreign attitude is wrong and distasteful.

This is the reason why American are so hated throughout the world. When US goes vietnam, they bring their surfboard and baseball bat, drinking US beer and womanising vietnamese woman. Totally ignore local culture and as expected fail terribly in vietnam.

You do know what is a prank, right? If you pull the same prank in America, you will probably got punch in the teeth, that's why we call it "Prank"

You seems to not understand what this is, this is a prank until that cop pull a gun on a "Prank", now I don't know in what world and what culture it would make sense you can pull a gun on someone pulling a harmless (as in not physical violent) prank. Maybe it happen a lot in China? I don't know. So it is okay in China to pull a gun or knife when I tap someone's else bottle in pub?

That prank have nothing to do with the Filipino cop being totally unprofessional.

1.) He had a gun off duty, which is not allowed
2.) He pull and point a gun, DRUNK.

Hence, the scuffle

If I show up on a gun range, drunk as a kite, I will probably got tackle too, or worse.

Chinese tourist committed a lot of disrespect and distasteful thing to other culture and society when they are aboard, should the American or Australia pull a gun or knife every time the Chinese tourist does not obey their rules and tradition?

 

[Beast]

You do know what is a prank, right? If you pull the same prank in America, you will probably got punch in the teeth, that's why we call it "Prank"

You seems to not understand what this is, this is a prank until that cop pull a gun on a "Prank", now I don't know in what world and what culture it would make sense you can pull a gun on someone pulling a harmless (as in not physical violent) prank. Maybe it happen a lot in China? I don't know. So it is okay in China to pull a gun or knife when I tap someone's else bottle in pub?

That prank have nothing to do with the Filipino cop being totally unprofessional.

1.) He had a gun off duty, which is not allowed
2.) He pull and point a gun, DRUNK.

Hence, the scuffle

If I show up on a gun range, drunk as a kite, I will probably got tackle too, or worse.

Chinese tourist committed a lot of disrespect and distasteful thing to other culture and society when they are aboard, should the American or Australia pull a gun or knife every time the Chinese tourist does not obey their rules and tradition?

Chinese tourist are just some folks and peasant. They do not undergo professional training unlike soldier. Trying to compare Soldier with peasant is just a joke. I can easily dig out plenty of incident of ugly American abroad. But soldier? LOL..

 

[jhungary]

Chinese tourist are just some folks and peasant. They do not undergo professional training unlike soldier. Trying to compare Soldier with peasant is just a joke. I can easily dig out plenty of incident of ugly American abroad. But soldier? LOL..

lol, so you are saying Chinese Doctor and Lawyer are folks and peasant?