US intelligence chiefs warn of direct conflict between India, Pakistan: Report

[Verve]

Just because someone hit the spot regarding his predictions doesnt mean he has the ability to predict future. Just as sometime horoscope can be correct but that is just a good guess not an absolute prediction. If today i make prediction that in future in my east/west/north/south there will be war between good vs evil and that come true considering high probability of such an event so does that mean i am some sort of prophet or man of God Astagfirullah?

Refer to post #21

He was a Wali (read up on him) and given the sight into future but not the exact timelines. Timeline (by that I mean which year/date exactly) is with Allah only and no human in history has been given access to such.

 

[IceCold]

Opposite will be true.

A wave of attack in Chitral (from West) and the other in Gilgit/Northern-Areas (from East). An attempt to cut off Pakistan and China.

UN, USA, various foreign (Inc Russian)
analysts ... All pointing towards Fascist Hindu regime starting a bigger conflict.

What Naimatallah foretold, all the pieces are coming together. One may want to ignore such predictions but difficult to considering all that's going on around us.

You are talking about a world war because any attempt to cut off Pakistan from China will revoke a response from the Chinese since their investment is at stake. Any attempt to dislodge or dismember Pakistan will result in a nuclear response from us, again a MAD scenario will result in a world war. Not happening.

 

[Pandora]

He was a Wali (read up on him) and given the sight into future but not the exact timelines. Timeline (by that I mean which year/date exactly) is with Allah only and no human in history has been given access to such.

There is no concept of Wali who predicts future in Islam. There are good people in every century so that doesnt mean they had some sort of connection on lines of being prophets.

https://makashfa.wordpress.com/2012/03/07/what-is-meaning-of-wali-saint-in-islamic-terminology/

Post #21 as well

 

[Verve]

You are talking about a world war because any attempt to cut off Pakistan from China will revoke a response from the Chinese since their investment is at stake. Any attempt to dislodge or dismember Pakistan will result in a nuclear response from us, again a MAD scenario will result in a world war. Not happening.

Not talking of World War. Northern area war will be localised and limited so no need for nuclear in the equation (Kargil didn't turn nuclear), plus it is a difficult terrain for Indian army. It will be an attempt to destroy as much of CPEC infrastructure as possible.

Big war with India will be later ...

 

[enquencher]

There are bigger clowns in Pakistan who sell distorted form of religion to people and majority of people buy that happily. Such people exist in every country but we have an abundance of them in Pakistan. If muslims had followed Islam in its true essence then we wouldnt have any arseholes like ISIS or Taliban or Alqaeda.

I have read ur post before also..u seem to have a good understanding of religion.
I could have asked u more abt islam to clear my concepts..which are distorted due to spreading of false version.
But...if i ask toomuch or go in depth..i will be fired by death squad of teenager fanboys.

 

[IceCold]

Not talking of World War. Northern area war will be localised and limited so no need for nuclear in the equation (Kargil didn't turn nuclear), plus it is a difficult terrain for Indian army. It will be an attempt to destroy as much of CPEC infrastructure as possible.

Big war with India will be later ...

And you believe destroying CPEC infrastructure will not revoke Chinese response? When Kargil happened, It was fought on the Indian side. Chinese investment was minimum to the extent that it hardly mattered for China to intervene. Nuclear weapons were hardly deployed by both states. So it was out of the equation. Today however it is a different ball game and Indians (The sensible ones) realize this fact that Pakistan played a master stroke by involving China into the game. Having said that i under the point that you are trying to make, it will more likely be a skirmish.

 

[Fledgingwings]

I am at loss of words with this one.

Sometimes it becomes hard to say something over innocent words.

 

[NALANDA]

And you believe destroying CPEC infrastructure will not revoke Chinese response? When Kargil happened, It was fought on the Indian side. Chinese investment was minimum to the extent that it hardly mattered for China to intervene. Nuclear weapons were hardly deployed by both states. So it was out of the equation. Today however it is a different ball game and Indians (The sensible ones) realize this fact that Pakistan played a master stroke by involving China into the game. Having said that i under the point that you are trying to make, it will more likely be a skirmish.

China has been duly warned...any loss for not heeding the warning is all they to be blamed. They have no locus standi. They can at best supply weapons to you. Please note that J&K is not part of Paksitan (any doubt please check your constitution). Attacking an area which is legally part of India is our right. Its just about when we do it. CPEC is a good provocation .

China will however pull out from its commitment to u

 

[IceCold]

China has been duly warned...any loss for not heeding the warning is all they to be blamed. They have no locus standi. They can at best supply weapons to you.

And you believe Chinese give a damn to what India has to say? Really? Why dont you try and see what happens? There is a reason India prepares for a two front war.

 

[Verve]

And you believe destroying CPEC infrastructure will not revoke Chinese response? When Kargil happened, It was fought on the Indian side. Chinese investment was minimum to the extent that it hardly mattered for China to intervene. Nuclear weapons were hardly deployed by both states. So it was out of the equation. Today however it is a different ball game and Indians (The sensible ones) realize this fact that Pakistan played a master stroke by involving China into the game. Having said that i under the point that you are trying to make, it will more likely be a skirmish.

Chinese Army has been working on this eventuality where entering Pak territory will be required.

A lot of military movements in these areas but it's all hush hush. Some hinters here and there but very quiet otherwise.

Indian frustration will boil over resulting in this localised war (in disputed area, the argument will be).

And this will happen most likely when there is a major political/internal turmoil in Pakistan.

 

[John Reese]

And you believe Chinese give a damn to what India has to say? Really? Why dont you try and see what happens? There is a reason India prepares for a two front war.

Chinese are smart business men they Will watch Like thy always Do Like in kargil or any other war

 

[Verve]

China has been duly warned...

Oh gosh, the delusions of the Hallucinating Hindu

Next will be 5000 + old warships demolishing China.

@IceCold ... Fascist Hindu will attack, it's all there .. and stage is nearly ready

 

[B+ Dracula]

https://zakirnaikqa.wordpress.com/tag/future-prediction-and-horoscope-in-islam/

You should read this regarding status of people who predict future in Islam. Rest is for you believe as i am not here to contradict your beliefs.

In Islam Fortune telling is clearly haram, but here in above case (Naimat Shah) we are not dragging work of charmers & fortune tellers, It is a sharing of a great spiritual seer who happened to be a Muslim many years ago and it's not obligatory for every Muslim to believe him, in simple words it was his fair analysis, either you believe him or Not, it's up to you..... Being a Muslim Our last resort (Hujjat) is Quran & Hadees.
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But why do I give credence to such seers? ?? I have following reasons.
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2. I was once attending Juma Khutba, where our Imam Masjid was explaining that phenomena in following words. A prophet (PBUH) use to witness events & happening in front of him like a reality. In hadees related to End of times, Our Prophet told us about the Location, chain of events associated with it and its outcome. But in the case of Seers, they use to witness Events from Distance. either their judgment about the instance can come true in due time or can be delayed.

3. In history, there is a story that reminds us Direct Spiritual Intervention. During a crusade war, 2 Jews in disguise of Muslim scholar decided to dig a tunnel that leads them to Roza of Prophet (Pbuh).
Prohet muhammad (Pbuh) himself came into the dream of King of Syria Sultan Amad-dudin Zangi, instructing him to save me from these 2 mouses. which ultimately led to their execution

4. Don't you think so, it happens in our daily life, as a professional we reached the zenith of any field, we use to predict its course. for example, I may term Warren Buffet as a seer of Stock Market, because he has invested more than 50 years investigating the calculus of a stock. If it happens to a non-Muslim who delved his life investigating the secrets of phenomena, then why can't Allah reveal his orders to his true believers.

 

[Awan68]

I think we should nuke this dirty impure land called india and wipe it off from face of world .
This shameless cunt deserve this .

Lets negotiate...What about a tactical nuke to get rid of modi?? Will that do? save the rest lol, bhai jee 20 million muslims live there and nuking 1.5 billion people will cause a global catastrophy and that will be the end of civilization as u knw it...talk sense man....

 

[Pandora]

In Islam Fortune telling is clearly haram, but here in above case (Naimat Shah) we are not dragging work of charmers & fortune tellers, It is a sharing of a great spiritual seer who happened to be a Muslim many years ago and it's not obligatory for every Muslim to believe him, in simple words it was his fair analysis, either you believe him or Not, it's up to you..... Being a Muslim Our last resort (Hujjat) is Quran & Hadees.
.
But why do I give credence to such seers? ?? I have following reasons.
1.
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2. I was once attending Juma Khutba, where our Imam Masjid was explaining that phenomena in following words. A prophet (PBUH) use to witness events & happening in front of him like a reality. In hadees related to End of times, Our Prophet told us about the Location, chain of events associated with it and its outcome. But in the case of Seers, they use to witness Events from Distance. either their judgment about the instance can come true in due time or can be delayed.

3. In history, there is a story that reminds us Direct Spiritual Intervention. During a crusade war, 2 Jews in disguise of Muslim scholar decided to dig a tunnel that leads them to Roza of Prophet (Pbuh).
Prohet muhammad (Pbuh) himself came into the dream of King of Syria Sultan Amad-dudin Zangi, instructing him to save me from these 2 mouses. which ultimately led to their execution

4. Don't you think so, it happens in our daily life, as a professional we reached the zenith of any field, we use to predict its course. for example, I may term Warren Buffet as a seer of Stock Market, because he has invested more than 50 years investigating the calculus of a stock. If it happens to a non-Muslim who delved his life investigating the secrets of phenomena, then why can't Allah reveal his secrets to his true believers.

Mate i am not asking anyone to change their beliefs bcz of me. Truth is out there for everyone to see so it depends on each person how he precieves that truth.

Even as you quote me you said fortune telling is haram then next line you declare seers are not same as fortune tellers.

Even when people say that Gazwa hind will happen they say that word with contradiction. Gazwa mean a battle where Prophet Mohammad PBUH participated in person. After the passing of our dear prophet how can there be another gazwa? Some time peoples perception can twist the fact just because they believe in it so much.

You merely need to check my link in post #21 to know the truth. Rest how you precieve that truth is upto you.