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US has to choose either Gülenist terror-cult or Turkey, says President Erdoğan

How about this? A FAIR DEAL, Murica gives you Gulen, and he becomes president of Turkey, and you give us Erdogan, and he gets to live in a nice house in Pennsylvania. After all, :unsure: someone just tried to kill the president of turkey, its a dangerous job, its much safer to live in Pennsylvania under CIA protection.
Whaddya say?
I have a better deal.

- Kick all of the US soldiers and diplomats out of Turkey.
- Close İncirlik air base.
- Shut off Kürecik Radar Base which is the back bone of the missile defense shield.
- Restrict all of the US warships's access to black sea.
 
I have a better deal.

- Kick all of the US soldiers and diplomats out of Turkey.
- Close İncirlik air base.
- Shut off Kürecik Radar Base which is the back bone of the missile defense shield.
- Restrict all of the US warships's access to black sea.
It doesn't matter, US and NATO are not going to stop conducting regime change operations against Erdogan. He is probably priority 1 on CIA's list right now. Does Turkey have any allies willing to fight? Russia, Iran, Pakistan? Saudi Arabia is against Iran, is Turkey going to jeopardize its ties to join the Iran Russian alliance?
 
It doesn't matter, US and NATO are not going to stop conducting regime change operations against Erdogan. He is probably priority 1 on CIA's list right now.
Yeah, i know. External foes will always try to harm our country, we have to be strong and thwart their intentions.

I'm just curious, asking just your opinion. What is the reason US wants a regime change in Turkey ?

Does Turkey have any allies willing to fight? Russia, Iran, Pakistan? Saudi Arabia is against Iran, is Turkey going to jeopardize its ties to join the Iran Russian alliance?
Willing to fight against whom ? Yes, US is the sole superpower of the world. But we saw your "willingness" to fight against ISIS......Russians are better than you in this regard. Not saying that we should leave NATO and join Eastern axis....but we should remain at a same distance to both West and East.
 
Yeah, i know. External foes will always try to harm our country, we have to be strong and thwart their intentions.

I'm just curious, asking just your opinion. What is the reason US wants a regime change in Turkey ?


Willing to fight against whom ? Yes, US is the sole superpower of the world. But we saw your "willingness" to fight against ISIS......Russians are better than you in this regard. Not saying that we should leave NATO and join Eastern axis....but we should remain at a same distance to both West and East.
In one of my previous post, US Intelligence sees Erdogan as too "Independent" US wants someone weak that they can control. Someone like Gulen. US wants to split up countries into ethnic states with terms like "balkanize" "pakistanize","libiyaaize","syriaize" Essentially total chaos, with power not in the hands of a state, but in the hands of ethnic militias (think kurds) paid for by US agencies. These terrorist groups in Turkey will then be used against Russian and Iran to split up their countries all the way to Tibet and China. US secretly supports IS against its rivals Iran and Russia. US will also use ISIS against Turkey. Saudi arabia will support US efforts at destroying Iran, I believe Saudi Arabia will also support Gulen against Erdogan. Saudi Arabia will likely see Gulen as someone more reliable than Erdogan as a tool against Iran. EU and NATO, along with George Soros will likely use the Middle east refugee crisis to set up both neonazi and Islamist conclaves in Ukraine and Poland as another front against Russia under the cover of economic development and a certain kind of islamic "lebensraum"

Eventually after all ethnic groups have their own states, these states will be called "nationalist" states, based on ethnicity (think Kosovo). However, these states will be so weak they will have to give up their sovereignty to international Government Organizations such as UN, which was founded by Globalists Rockefellers. Its a kind of NWO.
 
In one of my previous post, US Intelligence sees Erdogan as too "Independent" US wants someone weak that they can control. Someone like Gulen. US wants to split up countries into ethnic states with terms like "balkanize" "pakistanize","libiyaaize","syriaize" Essentially total chaos, with power not in the hands of a state, but in the hands of ethnic militias (think kurds) paid for by US agencies. These terrorist groups in Turkey will then be used against Russian and Iran to split up their countries all the way to Tibet and China. US secretly supports IS against its rivals Iran and Russia. US will also use ISIS against Turkey. Saudi arabia will support US efforts at destroying Iran, I believe Saudi Arabia will also support Gulen against Erdogan. Saudi Arabia will likely see Gulen as someone more reliable than Erdogan as a tool against Iran. EU and NATO, along with George Soros will likely use the Middle east refugee crisis to set up both neonazi and Islamist conclaves in Ukraine and Poland as another front against Russia under the cover of economic development and a certain kind of islamic "lebensraum"

Eventually after all ethnic groups have their own states, these states will be called "nationalist" states, based on ethnicity (think Kosovo). However, these states will be so weak they will have to give up their sovereignty to international Government Organizations such as UN, which was founded by Globalists Rockefellers. Its a kind of NWO.
I think, you assessment is going over the board. Turkey is just too strong for your proxies. You will never be able to split Turkey like that and your officials probably know it.
 
I think, you assessment is going over the board. Turkey is just too strong for your proxies. You will never be able to split Turkey like that and your officials probably know it.
Was the Soviet Union too strong? Where is it now?

In addition, Turkey is the sucessor to the Ottoman Empire, The Ottoman Empire was divided by European Powers. US Intel's goals are achievable
 
Gulen is becoming " Go to Guy " for Mr Erdo ! any thing wrong in Turkey : Blame Gullen! its becoming funny.

PS : this statement was made by a customer of my company based in Izmir.
personally i have no idea of Gullen or his deeds.
 
Does this include the Kurdish/Armenian Part too? Intelligence is targeting those parts.
Armenian part ? They are no more.....

As for the Kurdish part...we dealt with more than 30 Kurdish rebellions in the last 2 centuries...
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doğu_isyanları_listesi

Maybe 31th is the charm ? ;)

In addition, Turkey is the successor to the Ottoman Empire, The Ottoman Empire was divided by European Powers. US Intel's goals are achievable
If you look at the parts that have gone out of our hand...Those places were not populated with Turks....It's Balkans, Arab lands. Did European powers could able to split Anatolia, the homeland of the Turks ?

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Nope.....if we could stop their intentions at our weakest state....then there is no chance today.
 
Armenian part ? They are no more.....

As for the Kurdish part...we dealt with more than 30 Kurdish rebellions in the last 2 centuries...

Maybe 31th is the charm ? ;)
A future one may be under a UN sanctioned No Fly Zone. In addition, Russia Supports Armenia, Putin is also a supporter of a federalized Syria, with a Kurdish North. Putin is cooperating with US in Syria. What do you think he is going to do regarding the "federalization" of Turkey. Remember US has defacto "federalized" Iraq with a Iraqi Kurdistan. Both US and Russia are going to push for a federalized Kurdish South east.
 
A future one may be under a UN sanctioned No Fly Zone. In addition, Russia Supports Armenia, Putin is also a supporter of a federalized Syria, with a Kurdish North. Putin is cooperating with US in Syria. What do you think he is going to do regarding the "federalization" of Turkey. Remember US has defacto "federalized" Iraq with a Iraqi Kurdistan. Both US and Russia are going to push for a federalized Kurdish South east.
Then we will met on the battle-ground. You won't be erasing our borders without killing every single Turk.
 
Then we will met on the battle-ground. You won't be erasing our borders without killing every single Turk.
Turkey can bomb alot of Kurds. Western media is going to go bananas, and Erdogan is going to be the New Hitler and the Kurds the New Jew. US spies and Special forces in Kurdistan will get killed, and IMO, have already been killed by Turkish forces. Turkey is going to get sanctioned By UN. I doubt Russia will veto, probably will abstain, due to "need" to preserve Kurdish "cooperation" in Syria with the SAA. Putin will try to become a peacemaker by holding negotiation with Turkey with NATO.to prevent humanitarian damage with a "federalization" solution. For past 6 years, each federalization solution has been a partition solution. Examples being Ukraine, Iraq and Syria. Next step up is Turkey.
 
Turkey can bomb alot of Kurds. Western media is going to go bananas, and Erdogan is going to be the New Hitler and the Kurds the New Jew. US spies and Special forces in Kurdistan will get killed, and IMO, have already been killed by Turkish forces. Turkey is going to get sanctioned By UN. I doubt Russia will veto, probably will abstain, due to "need" to preserve Kurdish "cooperation" in Syria with the SAA. Putin will try to become a peacemaker by holding negotiation with Turkey with NATO.to prevent humanitarian damage with a "federalization" solution. For past 6 years, each federalization solution has been a partition solution. Examples being Ukraine, Iraq and Syria. Next step up is Turkey.
Hmm how you ended up in this forum. I can bet where you came from. :D

Anyway welcome here brother.
 

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