US hands over new M-109 to PA

[Luftwaffe]

115 of them...

 

[razgriz19]

Old news. more recent news as follows

ASIAN DEFENCE: USA to Sell 145 M777 Howitzers to India

good for u/india...but ur in the wrong thread!!

 

[MZUBAIR]

Old news. more recent news as follows

ASIAN DEFENCE: USA to Sell 145 M777 Howitzers to India

Hahahhahah

M777 howitzer (India)

M109 howitzer(Pakistan)

Should I need to compare ?

 

[Relucent]

Hahahhahah

M777 howitzer (India)

M109 howitzer(Pakistan)

Should I need to compare ?

No u dont need to.Both are for different purposes.Ment to be used in different terrains.

 

[DavyJones]

India and Pak mostly use artillery for duels in the mountains.
M777 howitzers are suited to the mountains as they can be transported to mountain tops and places where there are no fixed roads via helicopters.
The M109A is a deadly weapon but of no use in mountain areas. In the plains India and Pak would normally fight using tanks and the type warfare is more mobile. Artillery will mainly be used to soften up fixed defences.

 

[jawadqamar]

USA Delivered 48 M109A5 Howitzer to Pakistan Army

 

[ark80]

he United States delivered 48 self-propelled Howitzer to the Pakistan Army on Saturday at the Malir Cantonment in the southern port city of Karachi, the U.S embassy said. The delivery marks the completion of a total purchase of 115 field artillery cannons by Pakistan through the U.S. foreign military sales/foreign military finance program, the embassy spokesman said.The FMS/FMF case was initiated by Pakistan in 2006 and enabled the government of Pakistan to obtain the cannons from the United States at a greatly discounted rate.

"These field artillery cannons are an important part of enhancing the capabilities of Pakistan's Army as it continues to wage its courageous fight against terrorists who seek to destroy Pakistan's people and way of life," said U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Michael Nagata, U.S. Office of the Defense Representative-Pakistan."It is our hope that these weapons are ultimately able to play an important role in ending extremist violence and bringing peace once again to this great nation," he said.

During the last three years, U.S. civilian and security assistance to Pakistan has totaled more than 4 billion dollars.Assistance provided and delivered has included support for medical aid, school refurbishment, bridge and well reconstruction, food distribution, agricultural and education projects, 14 F-16 fighter aircraft, 10 Mi-17 helicopters, more than 450 vehicles for Pakistan's Frontier Corps, hundreds of night vision goggles, day/ night scopes, radios, and thousands of protective vests and first- aid items for Pakistan's security forces.

In addition, the U.S. funded and provided training for more than 370 Pakistani military officers in a wide range of leadership and development programs covering topics such as counterterrorism, intelligence, logistics, medical, flight safety, and military law.U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Michael Nagata, U.S. Office of the Defense Representative-Pakistan deputy commander, officially handed over the M1095A5 self-propelled Howitzer to Pakistan Army Brigadier Farrukh Saeed, 25th Mechanized Division Artillery Commander, during a ceremony in Karachi. The event was attended by Steve Fakan, U.S. Consul General to Karachi, and more than a dozen U.S. and Pakistani military representatives.

Posted by ASIAN DEFENCE at 10:15 PM

 

[eagle20054]

 

[eagle20054]

 

[fatman17]

1. all M109s in PA stock are being upgraded to A5 config.
2. the assembly line for the M109s has been stopped - this was the last order of 115 M109A5s to be delivered.
3. if PA wants 'additional' M109A5s they will have to get them from US Army EDA stocks, and as a non-nato ally, they will get 1st preference.
4. if the PA wants 'new' howitzers then they will need to negotiate for the M109A6 Paladin.

but it seems the PA maybe going for a 'mix' of US/Chinese 155mm SP guns. the Turkish/Korean 155mm are towed guns.

 

[S-2]

The photo of the M109 provided by Mzubair is about forty years old and doesn't possess the M284 cannon barrel. That provides a range of 24km with standard ammunition and 30km (approx) with RAP ammunition.

Served as the fire direction officer of one of those fine outfits. Here was my ride-

the good ol' days. Burned through many a heater in those. Always had one on order.

 

[Sunny4pak]

Info Required...
PA is Using

M109 A5 (USA)
Chines .....?
Firtina from (Turkey)
any Other....?

 

[TaimiKhan]

1. all M109s in PA stock are being upgraded to A5 config.
2. the assembly line for the M109s has been stopped - this was the last order of 115 M109A5s to be delivered.
3. if PA wants 'additional' M109A5s they will have to get them from US Army EDA stocks, and as a non-nato ally, they will get 1st preference.
4. if the PA wants 'new' howitzers then they will need to negotiate for the M109A6 Paladin.

but it seems the PA maybe going for a 'mix' of US/Chinese 155mm SP guns. the Turkish/Korean 155mm are towed guns.

That seems to be the way forward.

And Sir, the Turkish Panther Howitzer has limited self mobility, while the joint Turkish/South Korean Fritna is a fully tracked SP Gun.

Panther Towed Howitzer

Fritna SP Gun

 

[Sunny4pak]

As we know that India is going for M777 from US
Why not PA should look fo Turkish Panther Howitzer (I think these are the same kinda howitzers if im not wrong). Plz Sir cabatli, fatman & Taimi khan through some light on differance between these two (M777 & Panther)


Regards,
Sunny

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I think PA already had this weapon ... M109A2 .
Currently an upgrade vertion of M109A5 might have been given ...!

We do have M109A4s infact im the son of a proud gunner...16 SP The Dashers